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[EviLore]

Oops Mods please edit title. I wrote Starfield twice lol.

Fixed

 

[Josemayuste]

Thats a straigh lie considering release of Skyrim(main game people are using to explain Starfield) and Fallout. Both still broken games nowadays. Unless you guys are using blinders or pretending these games aren't glitchfest on purpose. Hopefully is different this time, but track record is against them(and you).

I bought Fallout 4 on day one, and it's the most polished Bethesda game that I have played to this day, IMHO.

I own Skyrim too on 360, PS4, PS5, Switch and even though it's far from a perfect polished game, it's not a broken game by any means.

 

[Craig of War]

Thank you I really wanted to know what the dude who has been fanboying over Starfield and wearing Starfield t shirts for a year without ever laying eyes on the game, thinks.

Damn dude i see you in every Starfield thread hating
Did Todd killed yo cat something this seem personal

 

[Thirty7ven]

Damn dude i see you in every Starfield thread hating
Did Todd killed yo cat something this seem personal

I’m not hatin’, I’m spittin’

 

[bushwookie]

Thats a straigh lie considering release of Skyrim(main game people are using to explain Starfield) and Fallout. Both still broken games nowadays. Unless you guys are using blinders or pretending these games aren't glitchfest on purpose. Hopefully is different this time, but track record is against them(and you).

Well if track records is the name of the game here, then Starfield will be yet another all time great that sells in the several tens of millions.

 

[Lognor]

Needs more starfield

 

[Saber]

I bought Fallout 4 on day one, and it's the most polished Bethesda game that I have played to this day, IMHO.

I own Skyrim too on 360, PS4, PS5, Switch and even though it's far from a perfect polished game, it's not a broken way by any means.

I own Skyrim Special edition and its the worst thing I ever played in terms of polishment. Gaming glitching everytime, bugs everywhere and the worst is when the app closes(which happen often).
So no, dunno if you played a different game but my experience with Skyrim isn't a good one. Its totally a broken game.

Well if track records is the name of the game here, then Starfield will be yet another all time great that sells in the several tens of millions.

I don't remember putting units sold in the conversation. But if the only thing you care is how many are sold instead of how polish the game will be, then good for you.

 

[sircaw]

True. There are always going to be similarities for games that are in the same genre, but I didn't see much in the video that was distinctively NMS except for the mining part. Space ships and space combat are going to be similar no matter what. I've played NMS, Elite Dangerous, and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw and for the most part they are very similar as far as combat goes.

I think Bethesda's mistake was putting that mining tool footage at the very beginning. That immediately made people think of NMS and that got stuck in their heads.

i think so too, I think it was rather ill-placed.

I also wish they had gone with some sort of laser combat, phase cannon, and gamma-ray technology instead of the machine gun + shotgun combo.

 

[Craig of War]

I’m not hatin’, I’m spittin’

 

[8BiTw0LF]

That MrMatty guy is pretty biased, no?

 

[Magic Carpet]

I saw the mining and the base building and thought ”Niiice!! It’s like No Man’s Sky!” and got more hyped

I cringed My first thought was they need to change that.
If I was on the developer team I would have been fired for pestering them to change it to anything other than that mining laser.
I would much rather Tag the area and have a robot come and mine it for me. More gameplay mechanics around my idea.
Hire me Todd! Then we will argue and you can fire me.

 

[bushwookie]

Damn dude i see you in every Starfield thread hating
Did Todd killed yo cat something this seem personal

Oh it's personal for him, but it's got nothing to do with a cat.

Simply a plastic box he's sworn allegiance to isn't getting this game, so his directive is to downplay it at all costs.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Well if track records is the name of the game here, then Starfield will be yet another all time great that sells in the several tens of millions.

This is pretty much a what have you done for me lately industry and Fallout 4 - Fallout 76 are in no way shape or form all time greats, and neither have they sold several tens of millions.

Don’t wanna scare you in case you don’t know what day it is or something but Skyrim was like 12 years ago buddy, that’s PStriple era.

 

[Topher]

i think so too, I think it was rather ill-placed.

I also wish they had gone with some sort of laser combat, phase cannon, and gamma-ray technology instead of the machine gun + shotgun combo.

I agree. The shooting looked incredibly generic and boring. My least favorite part of the presentation.

 

[dcmk7]

Why are people getting so upset with the similarities? Just don't get it.

The only similarity that I wish was in Starfield is the planet to planet flying.

 

[Foilz]

We all know that's they both are space/planet based games, have ships, you mine with lasers, shoot things,aliens,multiple planets.

No one brings up that every fps is similar, or every 3ps, and the mobas. Oh the RTs games are basically identical.

At this point I'm sure we all can presume Bethesda saw star citizen and NMS and was like let's do our rpg style of these games

 

[Craig of War]

That MrMatty guy is pretty biased, no?

He is a big BGS fan his channel got big because of Fallout he is known as the Fallout & RPG game guy
Yes he is pro Bethesda he love their game but
It does not make his points false

 

[bushwookie]

I own Skyrim Special edition and its the worst thing I ever played in terms of polishment. Gaming glitching everytime, bugs everywhere and the worst is when the app closes(which happen often).
So no, dunno if you played a different game but my experience with Skyrim isn't a good one. Its totally a broken game.

Well that wasn't the experience for most. Maybe it was just broken for you.

I don't remember putting units sold in the conversation. But if thats the only thing you care good for you.

You put track records into it, which I was only following through on. It also really hurts your whole "Skyrim is completely broken" schtick as broken games really don't tend to sell as well (and for as long) as Skyrim has.

 

[sircaw]

Hundreds you say? While you're obviously exaggerating, let's see how your whataboutism plays out. Out of the supposed "hundreds", I doubt you could find any 2 people combined who have made as many "concern comments" about Sony's games as you've made just this week about Starfield and it's showing.

That may be so, but you're surely not one of them. Unless your definition of "genuine critiques" is something along the lines of "downplay at all costs".

You're part of the very problem he's talking about. Why suddenly try to play the part of mediator, as if you're above it all?

I think you should have a word with adamsapple , the defacto concern sony specialist on this forums.

Take off your fanboy rose-tinted glasses and stop taking criticism of said game as like someone burnt your fucking house down.

end of story.

 

[Craig of War]

Oh it's personal for him, but it's got nothing to do with a cat.

Simply a plastic box he's sworn allegiance to isn't getting this game, so his directive is to downplay it at all costs.

Damn that pathetic & sad

 

[8BiTw0LF]

It does not make his points false

 

[mckmas8808]

OP, add this one.

This is an actual legit question to ask. Doesn't mean the answer is yes.

 

[adamsapple]

I think you should have a word with adamsapple , the defacto concern sony specialist on this forums.

 

[sircaw]

I agree. The shooting looked incredibly generic and boring. My least favorite part of the presentation.

Really looking forward to seeing how many different types of drones, robots, etc they are,

Exploration, combat, first aid, resource gathering, etc, I think the sky could be the limit.

 

[Topher]

Why are people getting so upset with the similarities? Just don't get it.

The only similarity that I wish was in Starfield is the planet to planet flying.

At this point complaining about the comparison is what keeps the comparison alive. How many threads do we have now on this? Three?

 

[Laptop1991]

The links are weak at best, you can't do in NMS what you can do in a Bethesda single player game, no where near, this is getting ridiculous now.

 

[MOTM]

Go watch the 4K trailer on the official website and notice how poor the textures on the outside of the ship are or how bad the outside environments look. There is just no way anyone is honestly impressed by what was shown, even compared to other games MS has shown like Hellblade and Forza Horizon. There is clearly something going on here, either the game is still far away from release of there is some severe technological struggles going on (maybe from their dated engine).

Try harder.

What a load of rubbish.

 

[Topher]

Really looking forward to seeing how many different types of drones, robots, etc they are,

Exploration, combat, first aid, resource gathering, etc, I think the sky could be the limit.

The ship building is the part that wowed me the most. I'm looking forward to building one big badass ship.

 

[Saber]

Well that wasn't the experience for most. Maybe it was just broken for you.

You put track records into it, which I was only following through on. It also really hurts your whole "Skyrim is completely broken" schtick as broken games really don't tend to sell as well (and for as long) as Skyrim has.

Well tbh Skyrim was released multiple times to multiple plataforms, so I dunno whats the point of your infantile remark. If the experience is bad just for me then theres nothing to feel offended.
Back to Starfield comparisons.

 

[adamsapple]

Try harder.

What a load of rubbish.

If you know that poster and their history, it's not surprising what their opinion on Starfield are.

 

[nani17]

That MrMatty guy is pretty biased, no?

He's not biased you're just salty

 

[Alphagear]

Always knew it's best to wait till we see gameplay.

Some people here were calling the game GOTY 2022. The only game which will compete with Elden Ring.

Well 2022 isn't happening and GOTY looks unlikely now.

 

[Fredrik]

I cringed My first thought was they need to change that.
If I was on the developer team I would have been fired for pestering them to change it to anything other than that mining laser.
I would much rather Tag the area and have a robot come and mine it for me. More gameplay mechanics around my idea.
Hire me Todd! Then we will argue and you can fire me.

I don’t mind it, too far down the NMS rabbit hole to be concerned now. And NMS has mining droids too so they wouldn’t dodge the NMS comparisons either way. NMS does almost everything tbh. But it’s not a RPG. And you can’t build your ship. Yet.

 

[XXL]

Why are people so defensive about this?

This is similar No Mans Sky, but with a AAA budget and experienced team making it. That is not a bad thing.

If they can pull it off or not is the question. I'm personally in wait and see mode.

 

[Hendrick's]

This is an actual legit question to ask. Doesn't mean the answer is yes.

Watch the video.

 

[XXL]

Fixed

 

[CeeJay]

Thats a straigh lie considering release of Skyrim(main game people are using to explain Starfield) and Fallout. Both still broken games nowadays. Unless you guys are using blinders or pretending these games aren't glitchfest on purpose. Hopefully is different this time, but track record is against them(and you).

I cant take you seriously when you say that Skyrim is broken to this day, take about hyperbole. It really undermines any of the other points you are trying to make.

 

[bushwookie]

This is pretty much a what have you done for me lately industry and Fallout 4 - Fallout 76 are in no way shape or form all time greats, and neither have they sold several tens of millions.

Don’t wanna scare you in case you don’t know what day it is or something but Skyrim was like 12 years ago buddy, that’s PStriple era.

Oh I'm not scared, or I'd be desperately trying to downplay games that won't be released on my preferred console.

I'll give you fallout 76, but to be fair it's a multiplayer focused game. So if you really want to go that route, we can... But that wouldn't lead this conversation to where you want it to go. However, Fallout 4 sitting at 13.5 million and surprisingly getting into the top 20 recently isn't too shabby.

You can try and argue that Bethesda's games don't sell well, and aren't great until you're blue in the face. Won't change the facts.

 

[Craig of War]

Why are people so defensive about this?

This is similar No Mans Sky, but with a AAA budget and experienced team making it. That is not a bad thing.

If they can pull it off or not is the question. I'm personally in wait and see mode.

Not defensive just tired of talking points that make no sense yours is one of them

Starfield is a WRPG i repeat a WRPG with all of Bethesda past RPG game mechanics and enhancements & even new stuff added
It is a RPG first and foremost & is not a Space simulator which is what NMS or Elite Dangerous is
People are really not getting this point
Starfield is more Fallout in space then No Man Sky ok

 

[Saber]

I cant take you seriously when you say that Skyrim is broken to this day, take about hyperbole. It really undermines any of the other points you are trying to make.

You can prove me wrong, not trying to be smartass or anything. I have my CD right here. One of reasons the game start becoming better playing is when I started playing it with mods. Namelly the Unofficial Skyrim Patch mod.

 

[sircaw]

The ship building is the part that wowed me the most. I'm looking forward to building one big badass ship.

i think the modders are really going to shine here,

There will be thousands of addons to this, very exciting.

 

[XXL]

Not defensive just tired of talking points that make no sense yours is one of them

Starfield is a WRPG i repeat a WRPG with all of Bethesda past RPG game mechanics and enhancements & even new stuff added
It is a RPG first and foremost & is not a Space simulator which is what NMS or Elite Dangerous is
People are really not getting this point
Starfield is more Fallout in space then No Man Sky ok

I agree with all this. But it still is very similar to No Mans Sky. It looks like it will just be deeper is someways (story, quests, rpg elements, etc) but less expansive in other areas.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

i think so too, I think it was rather ill-placed.

I also wish they had gone with some sort of laser combat, phase cannon, and gamma-ray technology instead of the machine gun + shotgun combo.

There are energy weapons used by the pirates in the video, and a specific buff for laser weaponry in one of the backgrounds.

The first mod I'm installing is for 40k lasguns.

 

[bushwookie]

I think you should have a word with adamsapple , the defacto concern sony specialist on this forums.

Take off your fanboy rose-tinted glasses and stop taking criticism of said game as like someone burnt your fucking house down.

end of story.

I wasn't the one being a hypocrite. I'm also not the one trying to portray my constant downplaying as "criticism".

Stop taking someone calling you out on your BS as like someone burnt your fucking house down, with your family inside.

End of story.

 

[sircaw]

I wasn't the one being a hypocrite. I'm also not the one trying to portray my constant downplaying as "criticism".

Stop taking someone calling you out on your BS as like someone burnt your fucking house down, with your family inside.

End of story.

Are you on drugs or something sunshine?

Your insistent need to try and control criticism of the said game is beyond ridiculous.

People are allowed to criticize things as they see them.

If you don't like other people's opinions, move to fucking North Korea.

 

[bushwookie]

Well tbh Skyrim was released multiple times to multiple plataforms, so I dunno whats the point of your infantile remark. If the experience is bad just for me then theres nothing to feel offended.
Back to Starfield comparisons.

Hey... they're your goalposts. Feel free to move them however you want.

 

[Craig of War]

I agree with all this. But it still is very similar to No Mans Sky. It looks like it will just be deeper is someways (story, quests, rpg elements, etc) but less expansive in other areas.

Ok to you it looks like NMS but to me not really
To me Starfield looks like Fallout/The Outer Worlds/Mass Effect

 

[bushwookie]

Are you on drugs or something sunshine?

Not at all starshine. Of course I could ask the same of you. The difference between us though being, one of us is apparently making it their fulltime job to downplay a game because it's not on their preferred console... and one has simply spent a relaxing morning off work calling them out on it.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Needs more seasoning.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Ok to you it looks like NMS but to me not really
To me Starfield looks like Fallout/The Outer Worlds/Mass Effect

Yeah, NMS and Starfield are very different games.