Tyrone Slothrop
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yeah its no shock its not selling but kotaku's got a point (though its been brought up before). here is this hot console and only 2 games are selling for it. i knew it'd draw in a different crowd, but damn.
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No More Heroes is supposedly tanking
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BrodiemanTTR
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Amir0x leads a sad life. 
JKBii said:
That's fucking sad, especially when they have a girl wearing a miniskirt, what's wrong with these people, did they advertise this at all? At least they could have staged a good turnout and not make Suda lose face like that. I'm not being sarcastic, as a publisher Marvelous should at least make sure people are going to show so Suda doesn't look bad like that.
I'm not so sure this could be called "tanking" by Suda's standards. His studio is extremely low budget (hence why a lot of his games heavily feature style more than say something like a combat engine or polygons).
I mean, Killer 7, Contact, etc. from him all performed even worse in comparison after one week. A PS2 version didn't help Killer 7.
I'm hoping that Ubi-Soft publishing the game here will help things a bit, though.
I mean, Killer 7, Contact, etc. from him all performed even worse in comparison after one week. A PS2 version didn't help Killer 7.
I'm hoping that Ubi-Soft publishing the game here will help things a bit, though.
Cerebral Assassin said:
well he can say that, but is that the reality? Look at what we got. Like I described, I can't see how it appeals to American sensibilities on any level unless it's only described as "violence and sex", which is really any culture.
And sure, cel-shaded games have done well. Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass are did/are doing very well.
Cosmonaut X
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I AM JOHN! said:
Well, IIRC Capcom claimed they sold/shipped 300k worldwide, but I don't recall whether that was for PS2, GC or a combination of the two. I would be very surprised if it actually sold anything like that, though.
NMH is going to be one of Suda's best-selling games, it isn't going to set any charts alight and he will undoubtedly be back with another incredibly niche game in the next year or two. The only people astonished and outraged by this are delusional fanboys who thought NMH had a serious chance of stellar sales and delusional fanboys pretending to be outraged so they can get another stick to beat the Wii with.
Joseph Merrick
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Oldschoolgamer
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Amir0x said:
Well, having seen various bits and pieces of the story, a lot of the major references and allusions to the different sub-cultures of the individuals, the game itself parodies, are derived from the west. Travis himself, included...
Amir0x said:
Fucking address me if you have a problem with my impressions, don't go around mocking me. That is just insulting and makes you look like an asshole.
What's wrong with calling combat raw? What is wrong with my impressions amir0x. Tell me mister all knowing review god. Do you know what Post-modernism is? Just because a that Tim retard used it, I'm going to get mocked for saying a game has post-modern tendencies? Seriously man, take your high school jock shit out of here. This kind of shit is totally uncalled for.
Oldschoolgamer said:
Like I said, Travis is a videogame geek who is into MOE. I'm sure there are many references and shit, but Americans will look at what's on the surface - a uniquely Japanese looking game with this odd concept and extreme violence, and ignore it. I don't see how it appeals to Western tastes any more than Japanese taste.
Of course, with Ubisoft by its side, the primary difference may be in the marketing. Maybe it'll get good marketing.
sp0rsk said:
Seriously sp0rsk, calm down. I didn't mean anything by it. YES, I was sarcastically mocking your impressions (SHEESH, my impressions get mocked too from time to time), but it was only because I was amused with the fact that you listed these near endless flaws and then still said it was awesome. Which I DID address in your thread!
Chill out man, I was just joking around. I didn't want to screw your threads up or anything, since your impressions already sold me off.
gray_fox224
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Damn, of all the days I'm not at Sofmap.
Anyhoo, I don't find this news shocking.
Anyhoo, I don't find this news shocking.
PepsimanVsJoe
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dionysus said:
So you hate not being on my ignorelist then.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
sp0rsk said:
Along with White Man you just became my favorite mod.
Cerebral Assassin
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I've got both of those as well. OK any non-Nintendo cel-shaded games that have sold well in the west?
as long as sells enough so more games like this are released in EU I'll be happy.
Western = American?
Jammy said:
See here:
I doubt Ubisoft's localization marketing after this bomba.
The two simple things they needed to do to make this release successful, they screwed up horribly:
--the price. This was not a $60 game. Budget price would've made reviewers see it in a different light. Every reviewer complained about the price.
--they tried to cover up its anime-style, rather than accentuate it. Talk about a completely boneheaded move. They missed the target audience by a mile by trying to make the cover look a little more "culture-neutral."
I'm eager to see if they learned anything...hopefully they don't screw up NMH.
Stumpokapow
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Tyrone Slothrop said:
Between the PS3, the 360, and the Wii, the top titles look like this:
Wii Sports, Wii Play, Mario Party 8, Twilight Princess, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Super Paper Mario, Dragon Quest Swords, Super Mario Galaxy, Minna no Golf 5.
If you expand to the top 30, you get:
Gundam Musou, Dynasty Warriors 6, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Big Brain Academy Wii Degree, Blue Dragon, DBZ: Budokai Tenakichi 3 Wii, Fire Emblem, Resident Evil: UC, Ridge Racer 7, Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire, Winning Eleven 2008 PS3, Resistance, Bladestorm, Dead or Alive 4, Resident Evil 4 wii, Ennichi no Tatsujin Wii, VF5 PS3, Naruto Shposaudhisd Wii, One Piece Wii, Gundam 0079 Wii
That's:
Wii - 19
PS3 - 9
X360 - 2
I didn't include Wii Fit because I'm going off Moor Angol's data which is a little behind.
You can also check JoshuaJSlone's "first year of the Wii versus first year of the PS2" to show how the Wii fares against it's closest comparison hardware-wise in terms of sales.
Amir0x is right on this. The game is made for Japanese otaku who have a hard on for western action films. Not western audiences who have a hard on for Japanese otaku-ness.
This is like how MGS is supposedly made "For western audiences" but then we have all the wacky jappy comedy and running around naked.
Japanese developers might want to make things "more western" because they are a fan of western movies/games, but they don't make them "western". They are still Japanese and for Japanese gamers but with Western influences.
This is like how MGS is supposedly made "For western audiences" but then we have all the wacky jappy comedy and running around naked.
Japanese developers might want to make things "more western" because they are a fan of western movies/games, but they don't make them "western". They are still Japanese and for Japanese gamers but with Western influences.
Amir0x said:
I guess my post about Senko No Ronde is invisible. They market their Tom Clancy games nicely, hell even Beyond Good and Evil and PoP had magazine spreads.
Their attempt at Senko No Ronde showed serious fundamental problems in their understanding of how to market Eastern games to Western players.
I AM JOHN!
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Are you actually trying to compare No More Heroes, a game that can succeed on visuals, and Zelda-like gameplay, to Wartech, the nichest of niche games?Mamesj said:
Oh, and by the way, Wartech HAD magazine ads, as did the two other crappy shovelware imports they put out in that same timeframe (Over-G Fighters and Import Tuner Racer).
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