I don't know; K-T has brought over some really obscure shit over the years, and this had the benefit of being tied to a fairly well known franchise.
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No plans to bring Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 to the West; Developer fears backlash.
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I don't know; K-T has brought over some really obscure shit over the years, and this had the benefit of being tied to a fairly well known franchise.
JadedWriter
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But I'm too fucking thirsty for Momiji in a bikini, don't you guys understand me needs?
sensui-tomo
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She has nothing to do with this game what-so-ever. :/ Is it graveyard time for this thread already?
Hell they're bringing that expansion to that dungeon maker/trap maker thing over here, hell i dont think that game even sold well over here so it does seem odd if we go the sales route. (note the only thing i know about that expansion is that a Suezo from monster rancher is in it)
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm gonna have sore muscles tomorrow from all the smh'ing in this thread.
Derpcrawler
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I am confused after reading this thread comments. I thought Gaf would be ecstatic with this news.
radios shipping overview
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This is a game for region-free systems. It's a non-issue.
Grow up and import. I can direct you to some fine retailers.
Grow up and import. I can direct you to some fine retailers.
Steve Youngblood
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Honestly, I find this kind of argumentation disingenuous. At worst, I think this is a niche product that may have been the kind of "we might break even or do a little better" that they would have considered before, but concerns about the current social climate are just the tipping factor. The narrative that they want to bring this product over and they know fans want this game brought over but they won't because of a fear of backlash is just silly. If there was a belief that there was money to be made, they'd bring it over. I'm to believe that they're leaving money on the table here just because they're disinterested in potentially having to respond to some criticism?
gundamkyoukai
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Yep i sure this game would get more sales than some of the JRPG KT bring over for eg .
So something had to make them think twice about it or maybe the being lazy time will tell .
Have you ever been into a GAF anime thread
Palette Swap
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Cry me a fucking river. That's all on the publisher. That they don't want to release the game because they fear bad publicity in the west would outweigh good word of mouth is a business decision.
If you seriously want this game, just let it be known by the publisher.
If you seriously want this game, just let it be known by the publisher.
Palculator
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This is fanart.
Misogynistic: One who hates or mistrusts women.
Let's see you actually explain how the DOAX games are that.
hosannainexcelsis
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Yes. Would this really sell less here than, say, Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence? Perhaps, but I doubt it.
dottme
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Yes. She has a lot of influence now with a "politically correct message" and a publisher doesn't want to risk the rest of their line up for one game.
I know Jim Sterling is going after Tecmo Koei, but the issue is not over there and I understand their choice. They don't want to risk the rest of their line up because one game will come back in the discussion again and again for being an over sexualized underage girl mating game.
Snkfanatic
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Many on GAF have different opinions. Why does this hive mind ideology still come up so much here?
This is a dumb decision by KT. They should be standing by their game, and besides, what are the realistic consequences of the backlash for them? It doesn't seem likely that the people who might bring the backlash KT is supposedly afraid of are going boycott the next Atelier or Dynasty Warriors game over this and even if they did, that's probably like 3 copies considering who small the crossover would likely be. The only ones here who they risk losing business from are their fans who would have bought this game, what a weird decision.
The Jim Sterling quote is more or less right, I don't buy KT's reasoning.
The Jim Sterling quote is more or less right, I don't buy KT's reasoning.
Palculator
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Lord British
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They're trolling.
That can be true also. The DOAX series doesn't really sell well in the U.S. to begin with...
Right. And I won't.
Maybe I am missing something. Has there already been backlash? OP makes it sound like they just want to avoid the possibility.
I fail to see how any backlash would affect the sales of the game anyway. It's not like people buying it don't know exactly what they're getting. I'm thinking it's just more convenient to say that than "we don't think we'll make enough money".
cityhunter
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Could've seen it coming eventually with how everyone is trying to out outrage each other. Just by looking at this forum over the years and how the atmosphere turned from fun to frustration. Every thread will somehow steer towards some social justice injected into it. Are they even planning on getting the game? Probably not. Do they even care about the game in the first place? Probably not. Just seeing it as a target for their cause nothing more. Boycott this, ban that.
This is the result of letting people that don't care for games itself to in general to overrun the conversation. Seems like they got what they want.
This is the result of letting people that don't care for games itself to in general to overrun the conversation. Seems like they got what they want.
Anita, SJW, fanpics from devianart... people is spinning shit hard so they don't have to blame Tecmo.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I blame the publisher sure. But in no way do people who constantly have a problem with something like an ass slap get off easy either. Both played a major part and its a damn shame i have to import. (,inb4 lol anime avatar)
Team Ninja is a little on the nose with it. The 3DS DOA game caused some trouble in Sweden because some of the female characters at the time were underaged. Marie is Swedish and her birthday just so happens to be the same date as the National Day of Sweden. Coincidence?
I have no words.
This is sad and no one wins ... Except a very hurtful minority.
It's a pity they fear a backlash because of a few people, who have a lot of time to spend on the web, rise their flags loaded with egoism and lie.
Maybe they should gather better information about what west reality is.
This is sad and no one wins ... Except a very hurtful minority.
It's a pity they fear a backlash because of a few people, who have a lot of time to spend on the web, rise their flags loaded with egoism and lie.
Maybe they should gather better information about what west reality is.
Mr. Nice_Guy
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To those saying none of the girls are underage, a few of them definitely look underage, and I think that's what bothers people more, especially in a game where the main point is to dress them up and ogle at them.
sensui-tomo
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Wait till someone posts one of those pics made from that steam engine thingy (whatever the guys at Studio FOW use ...... if anyone does a search on them... its extremely NSFW ... like you'll loose that job if you look at them) and says its from the game. I'm not sure the reasons for this game not being a digital only release though, due to some of their titles selling pretty shitty that werent Musou titles.
There isn't logic, it's an excuse. Or else they would stop releasing hundreds of dollars worth of pandering costumes for doa5lr.
At the end of yesterday's Jimquisition he congratulated fans for protesting against Payday 2's microtransactions. Now he's saying protests don't work?
Coolio McAwesome
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It's bad because some people in the west want to buy it. Why in the fuck should it matter if someone else doesn't like it? The fact that you don't want the game shouldn't mean that I can't have it.
This notion that the game needs the approval of groups that aren't interested in it to begin with is ridiculous and a completely regressive way of thinking. It's 1960s Conservative values dresses up as progress.
ITT: Censorship complaints.
Projecting much?
Let's be real, this would have sold horribly in the West anyway. It was more a business decision than anything else. No one is stopping you from importing the game and playing it.
You sincerely believe this.
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Jotamide
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This is how you fabricate controversy to generate publicity. Well done, Koei Tecmo.
Ah, gotcha. I don't know much about them as a publisher/developer so I didn't know they usually brought over obscure stuff too.
Seriously!
Has there been any campaign to not release DOAX3 in the west? I've only seen the opposite, honestly.
People are so quick to attack "those fucking SJWs" when really the only people to blame here are KT for being spineless.
SolidSnakex
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I don't think so. I still remember a poster calling George Kamitani a misogynist during the whole Dragon's Crown debate, and he wasn't trolling.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
A corporate decision likely based on market interest and sales projections.
Man, some people are really intent on:
-blaming the "evil sjws"
-blaming "PC" people.
-insinuating that everyone that is not ok with games like this is also a huge fan of gory violence
When the bolded in this post is likely the main reason why.
Palculator
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You mean Source Filmmaker. And it wouldn't surprise me if people did what you described.
LordGorchnik
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Gonna side with Jim on this one.
K-T is not confident enough to stand behind a product they feel will fail miserably in the West. Would it fail? Probably not given that sex sells immensely and given the amount of import support I've seen on this forum and others I think the game is going to do quite well in terms of sales actually.
If you want to blame or throw criticism and comments at anyone throw it at K-T.
K-T is not confident enough to stand behind a product they feel will fail miserably in the West. Would it fail? Probably not given that sex sells immensely and given the amount of import support I've seen on this forum and others I think the game is going to do quite well in terms of sales actually.
If you want to blame or throw criticism and comments at anyone throw it at K-T.
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LOL @ lots of people telling them to "grow some balls" - great choice of phrase
rockman zx
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I know is fanart but do you really think this is not going to happen for the asian market?. Like people will not buy swimsuits like that or play with them if they can unlock them in the game?.
Steve Youngblood
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I think it's less fair to say they fear the verbal backlash this will create and more fair to say that the projected sales the bean counters worked up already don't make it worth any fight.
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