Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Get off easy, ahuehuehue.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
No plans to bring Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 to the West; Developer fears backlash.
- Thread starter axisofweevils
- Start date
- Status
Get off easy, ahuehuehue.
You need to look up misogyny bud. This game is not even close. Exploitative? Sure, but no more or less so than plenty of other exploitation of male teen fantasies (i.e. Superheroes, video games, etc)
sensui-tomo
Member
I'm gonna laugh if KOEI-tecmo wanted a Streisand effect to try to sell the game. It'll work better than the one that happened to Dragon's crown (except that was more kotaku and polygon than the devs)
Yeah. I wonder this as well. Doesn't KT's fear come from all these outcries over the past few years? The statement clearly says so, at least.
I don't think his answer says anything about protests not working. He's just saying if you should blame anyone for DOAX3 not coming out here, blame KT.
They arent going to give Marie Rose those super skimpy outfits.
I really have to wonder if this is actually part of an attempt to generate publicity by getting Western fans riled up and then coming in with a localization announcement later.
Lapidus' Beard
Member
Import it is then.
I believe "not releasing the game" is censorship.
But still, a business decision more than a moral one.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Great. So we won't be getting this game cause some people who have no interest in it in the first place might get offended by it.
That's just awesome.
That's just awesome.
Lol @people eating up KoeiTecmo's bullshit. Nobody is stopping them from bringing the game to the west. Stop blaming anyone else than Tecmo.
That's not the reason they aren't bringing it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
You do know what censorship means, don't you?
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Still waiting for someone to explain how a backlash, even if there was one, would actually hurt Koei-Tecmo.
You develop a (essentially) softcore porn game, and then can't stand the fact that a few people will complain about it?
This is hilarious, because both they and their audience know what the game is, and those that complain about it (whether you think those complaints are legitimate or not) were never going to be part of the audience.
This is not a Bravely Second/Fatal Frame situations, where a couple of adjustments can open up a bigger pool of public, this a game entirely designed around titillation.
So some people will complain, and so what? People complain all the time about all sorts of stuff, you're not legally forced to listen to them; are you afraid they'd tarnish the reputation of DoA, the fighting game famous for big titted characters in skimpy clothing? I honestly have no interest in the game itself (if i want titillation i just watch porn) but i find their reaction very funny, in a pathetic kind of way.
"Oh no, our erotic softcore porn game will not hit the mainstream!"
Lord British
Member
I hope nobody actually believes the "fear of backlash" shite.
They may even try the class action suit and companies must take those risks into consideration too.
VeryGooster
Banned
Agree with Sterling. Entirely on K-T.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yes. Tecmo is so afraid of some bad press from the gaming media that they are opting not to make money from a title that clearly a lot of people want. That is how businesses operate.
you're a good dad. not even joking.
Yeah, someone else mentioned something like "hurting their lineup."
This isn't EA or Activision that's trying to sell games to everyone. KT caters to a pretty specific audience in the west.
Something tells me if the expected sales were high enough this wouldn't be an issue. Probably not worth the headache for such little profit.
Of course people like her want those games gone. It's always been dishonest and patronizing to say "I think these games are damaging but people can still enjoy them if that floats their boat." The statement is clearly that the world would be better off without them. That's what it means to call something damaging.
The real argument is that this isn't actually a problem because people like Anita don't have the authority to enforce their preferences just like people who like these games can't command a company to make them; it just comes down to business making a business decision based on what they perceive the reaction will be.
Of course people like her want those games gone. It's always been dishonest and patronizing to say "I think these games are damaging but people can still enjoy them if that floats their boat." The statement is clearly that the world would be better off without them. That's what it means to call something damaging.
The real argument is that this isn't actually a problem because people like Anita don't have the authority to enforce their preferences just like people who like these games can't command a company to make them; it just comes down to business making a business decision based on what they perceive the reaction will be.
These games are part of DoA's timeline? Wut.
StarlordDial
Member
So uh anyway know where i could buy the asian version or import it ? ;_;
Eolz
Member
Hey, only took up to page 3 this time before reaching this point!
Now we'll get the usual "Honoka is older than Marie because she has curves" posts and other poor debates.
A bit more complicated than that. Their Nobunaga titles sell even less in the west than previous DOAX games for example.
MightyHedgehog
Member
I don't understand the problem. They made a business decision regarding its release, but the PS4 is region free. Just import the game, like people have always had to when something doesn't come to your region. Getting into a dumb blame game is pointless.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
To people quick to not believe kt..were you getting the game tho?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I don't think I'd get this game, but this is still awfully disappointing.
I don't see what's wrong with the game, sexuality for some reason is worse than extreme as fuck violence like in Mortal Kombat. I find it quite sad.
I'm all for Equality, but this isn't the answer at all. I'd like to believe this is mostly because the game wouldn't sell that well, but it's already in English so why not release it digital only then?
I don't see what's wrong with the game, sexuality for some reason is worse than extreme as fuck violence like in Mortal Kombat. I find it quite sad.
I'm all for Equality, but this isn't the answer at all. I'd like to believe this is mostly because the game wouldn't sell that well, but it's already in English so why not release it digital only then?
I don't think anyone reasonable in this thread believes that. Most seem to believe that it is in fact a money based decision only affected slightly by guaranteed controversy. Why go through the negative publicity for sales that might very well be under 10K?
Exactly, like I'm sure there must be a large number of people ready to boycott the next Atelier game in outrage over them releasing this game in the West.
Right?
Vincent Grayson
Member
Protesting against a thing that is happening isn't really the same as protesting/petitioning *for* something to happen.
sensui-tomo
Member
No no no, the game uses DoA 5's cast... doa 5 made everyone older, this game isnt probably canon but uses the ages from 5.
Wha? This is delusional.
These are niche games with little interest in the west. The ones who care enough to complain are the outliers and don't really effect the bottom line and should not be to blame when it comes to this business decision.
I think the title of this topic is needlessly inflammatory and frames the situation as a win for a particular controversial narrative.
I think the title of this topic is needlessly inflammatory and frames the situation as a win for a particular controversial narrative.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Tecmo Koei is propping up the spectre of the dreaded SJW and some of you in this thread are eating it up instead of directing your attention toward the publisher itself. Bravo.
Mihos
Gold Member
Man, not even a digital release?
This really can't be because of a few puritans who want to put a scarlet letter on anyone who doesn't share there outrage on something they unilaterally declared is 'creepy'. That segment has always existed and really can't be the basis of this decision.
This really can't be because of a few puritans who want to put a scarlet letter on anyone who doesn't share there outrage on something they unilaterally declared is 'creepy'. That segment has always existed and really can't be the basis of this decision.
Oh, okay. I was just confused because I know Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive exist in the same universe, but then you have Fatal Frame and weird shit like this.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Have you seen how it is today idk their full reason buy releasing one of these in the west today is nowhere near the same as back than
StarlordDial
Member
Thanksss :3
ClosingADoor
Member
They probably didn't expect many sales. The fans can import it or use one of those region workarounds on console to buy digital.
... do you know what a class action lawsuit is?
Gentleman Jack
Member
Plenty on the first page of this thread do, and now they've directed their ire not at the company that made the decision, but a legion of strawmen and 'outrage culture' who denied them their fun game about boobies.
- Status