There's no such thing as an "in between" gen, and specs don't determine generation.
And what rulebook says that can't be the case?
I really hope this iOS fad ends soon
I don't take buzz out loud too seriously but I did cancel my vita preorder. I cannot see myself carrying an iPhone, iPad and vita around. I'll get a vita eventually but not at launch.
I don't take buzz out loud too seriously but I did cancel my vita preorder. I cannot see myself carrying an iPhone, iPad and vita around. I'll get a vita eventually but not at launch.
Gamers still want dedicated handhelds, and the level of game quality that comes with them, but the mainstream is moving past them.
With a smartphone you only have to carry one thing. People don't care if the games are shallow, they just want casual amusement during downtime.
I really hope this iOS fad ends soon
Oh ok, i see, thanks I just thought it was strange that he didnt think that the Vita would come out now when it is less than 2 months away from launch.It wasn't an opinion based on facts. They came to a conclusion that in a post iOS Game Centre world that dedicated handhelds have no place in the market. This includes the Vita (which they say was 2 years too late) and the 3DS.
I'm being serious here - could you list them? There has been a grand total of 1 iOS game apart from my own of course, that I have played for more than an hour or two. Super Stickman Golf. I just find iOS games lacking in the flair I usually get from something like a Nintendo game.Love how everyone thinks iOS is just Words with Friends and Angry Birds. Their's more good titles on iOS than 3DS and Vita combined.
Looked BFBC2 iPhone up on youtube.
God save us all.
I'm being serious here - could you list them? There has been a grand total of 1 iOS game apart from my own of course, that I have played for more than an hour or two. Super Stickman Golf. I just find iOS games lacking in the flair I usually get from something like a Nintendo game.
EA games don't count. They're inherently shit. They put 0 effort into them.
Look up Infinity Blade and Superbrothers: Swords & Sorcery EP instead. both legit hardcore titles in my book.
This is getting out of hand. Seriously.
Looked BFBC2 iPhone up on youtube.
God save us all.
Why would you carry a Iphone and an Ipad around?
Because I use both of them quite often.
These doomsayers aren't considering people like me in their prognosticating... you know, people who aren't normally handheld gamers, but are going to buy Vita because it appeals to their need to play any good, console-type games.
I see Vita appealing to a nontraditional audience.
To be fair though, this is exactly what the PSP did and it backfired horribly, fizzling out after the first few months. This time they did make a point to include a decent launch lineup and the screen and battery are acceptable, but history tells us it won't achieve any long-term success.
Though everything depends on your metric for console-type games. Isn't Mario Kart a console game, even though it's on handhelds as well?
As usual, i think it's not really about what the phone market is right now... If The Vita needs as long as the psp, or maybe several years at least to gain some momentum.. its survival will depend on the evolution of the phone gaming market.
For me, the phone market needs two things to really exist for gamer.
_One of the major actors (samsung or apple) releasing a xperia like sku (Apple wouldn't give buttons to the iphone, but there is nothing stoping them to market an other iphone sku for an other market, let's say an igphone or something. And Samsung well, Samsung just has the market at its foot if you want my opinion. They just have to pick it on the ground...
_But for that they need this second thing. Which is to create a secondary gaming store, which would have more value, with console games and higher prices. That way you would have the mainstream games and something more dedicated with more value for gamers. On this market, of course, every major editors would release its biggest titles.
And in this context, you have microsoft who doesn't have a portable console, and is just waiting nicely, with the whole power of their xbl... And they could find some partners...
Nintedno may have a Mario card that will always give them some strengh, but the vita.. I think Sony basically jumped in a mine field with his eyes closed!
GAF is 1-1 as far as PS handhelds are concerned!GAF is ALWAYS wrong.
Probably because they want to try the games out on their phone. I honestly doubt anyone puts more than an hour into playing them with those horrid controls. Makes me wonder if that will ever get adressed by Apple.
I've put in hours into many iOS games. I'm sure as fuck not a casual gamer.
I think he meant games like GTA with wonky virtual controls or other controls that don't quite work
but without an industry standard or a strong software platform with third party support it's dead in the water. samsung isn't positioned the make a game platform. apple though could be very successful but it's questionable to me if they would dilute their brand to make a model for games specificaly even though the highest selling software on the app store is all games
I think people forget that shooting in the PS2 GTA3 was also shit and blame it on IOS. Go back to GTA3 and you'll find it controls way worse than you remember.I think he meant games like GTA with wonky virtual controls or other controls that don't quite work
I've put in many hours into GTA3 and the controls are not wonky. I am doing a 100% run too cause I know it's possible.
I know you're joking but if the next Xbox and Playstation don't release in 2012 (doubt it) then I'd consider Wii U like in between this gen and next-gen based on its rumored hardware specs. That's just me.
There is no in between for generations. Its the next hardware iteration, its the next generation of consoles. 360 released a year before PS3, and I have never seen anyone call the 360 and 'inbetween' console. The specs have nothing to do with 'generation', that word is about Time, not the fucking hardware.
There is no in between for generations. Its the next hardware iteration, its the next generation of consoles. 360 released a year before PS3, and I have never seen anyone call the 360 and 'inbetween' console. The specs have nothing to do with 'generation', that word is about Time, not the fucking hardware.
They don't have to get an iPhone for phone function, and it people are arguing that the iOS devices will replace gaming devices, one might as well see what one's actually paying for their ticket to ride.Bad argument, as most people are going to pay for a cell phone anyway for, you know, the phone function. It's a cost most people look at the same as rent/utilities/gas/internet.. part of life you just have to pay.
They don't have to get an iPhone for phone function, and it people are arguing that the iOS devices will replace gaming devices, one might as well see what one's actually paying for their ticket to ride.
(Given I went with $79 a month, I was being fairly conservative too.)
They don't have to get an iPhone for phone function, and it people are arguing that the iOS devices will replace gaming devices, one might as well see what one's actually paying for their ticket to ride.
(Given I went with $79 a month, I was being fairly conservative too.)
Bear in mind I was responding to someone who was saying, "iPhones aren't that much. $200 with a contract!"You can buy an iPod Touch and not pay a phone contract.
Hardly no one has the patience for a five hour game anymore.
nobody's going to play real cod on vita. and by nobody i mean "about as many people as play COD on Wii" and not absolute zero.I don't think the PSP is an accurate comparison... not wholly. I bought a PSP, but it was disappointing.
Vita is a real gaming machine. (by my metric) Two sticks. All the functionality to straight-port a console shooter onto the system.
You can and will play a real CoD on Vita.
That might not have the same appeal for CoD'ers that the console version will have... but they'll get a percentage. And there will be other console-lite games that are only on the Vita.
This is why I'm buying it. And I don't generally buy handhelds. Not very scientific, but I know there will be a percentage of folks like me. How many? I have no freakin clue.
My main gripe here is that for all the talk of a shrinking market, it seems like no one is acknowledging the consumers like me. We are out there.
nobody's going to play real cod on vita. and by nobody i mean "about as many people as play COD on Wii" and not absolute zero.
Bear in mind I was responding to someone who was saying, "iPhones aren't that much. $200 with a contract!"
I was following the whole convo that started with people comparing the cost of entry with the cost of entry of PCs.
iPods negate that entirely, and the phone contract prices are a bad analogy as I noted above. The data plan can be considered, but even that is for most being used far more for phone/internet functions. =)