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Not only are handhelds done for, CNET writer doesn't think Vita will come out in NA
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Unknown Soldier
Member
360 is this gen, and oh by the way, it's been this gen for 5 years now.
electroplankton
Banned
Pokémon Black / White sold 14 million units at what price? 40 euros AT LEAST in Europe, 4800 yen in Japan and 35 $ in North America.
Occasionally I still see people refer to PS3/360 as next-gen lol
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Never pay attention to the tech journalists who cover games. That's just the rule of thumb here.
360 is more next-gen than Wii-U
360 has a better online system and storage capacity hard drive
Until Wii-U details say otherwise, 360 still beats Wii-U there, it's not all about graphic fidelity
One million in three days in Wales.
BoilersFan23
Member
Fair enough. When I travel I use my PSP a lot, or when waiting in lines at anime conventions and gaming events.
Anyway, I really cannot believe writers are going this far w/ articles. I wonder if they saw the PS Blog posting of SCEA outlining Vita launch games and stuff (who really knows).
This! Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders. How many hundreds of millions did they make public that they paid to keep bluray down... how much more do you think they paid in dark board rooms?! It's not a conspiricy... its fact. It's fucking criminal is what it is!
Exactly. Just because its popular doesn't mean everything else needs to be the same. Unfortunately, iZealots in the media can't recognise this.
Except for the fact that you can buy enormous hard drives for Wii U while you're limited to 250GB on 360 unless you resort to unofficial means...
Is that an iPhone figure?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
To be fair, the point of the episode was to make dumb ass predictions.
Cause it's true
I am Gen X because I wear flannel and watch MTV despite being born a Millenial. Does that make sense? Of course it doesn't.
You can talk about what's underpowered or whatever but it doesn't have anything to do with generations because they refer to time periods.
Projectjustice
Banned
If you love shovelware then you just hit gold!
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I'll buy a Vita on launch, and love it, I'm sure, as it dies a fast and painful death, just like my Dreamcast.
I own a PSP and a DS for years. I could probably count the number of times I've played the things outside my house without having to take off my shoes.
I play something on my iPhone daily, where ever I'm at.. maybe (actually probably) it's yahtzee and Orions 2. I play them in spurts, but they serve their purpose of something to actually play on the go.
I have zero use for something like the Vita, and sadly I'm sure most people will view it the same way. I just think most people who have an iPad/Android/iPhone just don't find it worthwhile to have another device that overlaps with a device they have, even if it's superior for gaming. I just don't think there's enough of "me" types who will still buy it anyhow.
I own a PSP and a DS for years. I could probably count the number of times I've played the things outside my house without having to take off my shoes.
I play something on my iPhone daily, where ever I'm at.. maybe (actually probably) it's yahtzee and Orions 2. I play them in spurts, but they serve their purpose of something to actually play on the go.
I have zero use for something like the Vita, and sadly I'm sure most people will view it the same way. I just think most people who have an iPad/Android/iPhone just don't find it worthwhile to have another device that overlaps with a device they have, even if it's superior for gaming. I just don't think there's enough of "me" types who will still buy it anyhow.
I own plenty of PSP Vitas, and DS 3Ds.
No, but I was making the comparison between Resident Evil Revelations and Dead Space. Similar games. Completely different pricing.
$35 does not = $50.
Well of course you would!
This is stupid, I buy all the handheld consoles at launch and I'm definitely in the iOS crowd as well.
You are not worthy to get on Steve Jobs space ship.
GAF is ALWAYS wrong.
GAF seems convinced the Vita is Doomed. Oh oh!
fixed
on side note, I take my psp/3ds out pretty often in public places.
I'm either at home/work/out and about playing it.
oh no won't you think of what random strangers will think of you?
they'll think you're an 8 year old playing the pokemans do you want to be an 8 year old playing the pokemans?
reptilescorpio
Member
It was $5 on PC the other day. What does that matter? Depending on the platform the titles can be completely different beasts.
I think iOS crowd is shorthand for the trolls not for the regular people who understand that each platform has their spots in our lives.
Reallink
Member
Over 6 years actually. We're now in the 7th.
We're not talking about the original game that was released years earlier, sale prices, or any crap like that. We're talking day one, full price games. We're also talking about mobile games, and I don't understand why MULTIPLE people have now missed that point. This whole damn thread is about handhelds. Ugh.
Dead Space on iPhone was at most, 10 bucks when it was released. I've only played the demo of RE:R, but in terms of the type of gameplay that it offers, it's the same as Dead Space. Most people that have played Dead Space on the iPhone will agree, it's a pretty fantastic game. Why would someone pay 50 for a 3DS game over an 8 (if I remember correctly, that was the release price) dollar iPhone game that offers a very similar value proposition?
The main point is, $50 dollar portable games just won't work. I honestly believe that RE:R and other portable games at this price point will not sell as well as they should exclusively because of price. I don't think that gaming companies can justify these price points on handheld systems with consumers.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
If smartphones (games + more) is going to kill the dedicated handheld gaming market why didn't the PC (games + more) kill the dedicated console gaming as many previously predicted?
Entry pricing. Ease of use and access. Compatibility. Constant updates. Many more reasons.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Wonder what would happen on GAF if these prediction do come true?
I mean Guru Meditation Error 503 will be least of GAF's problem lol
I await our iOS overlord, Hail JOBS!, Hail Cupertino!
I mean Guru Meditation Error 503 will be least of GAF's problem lol
I await our iOS overlord, Hail JOBS!, Hail Cupertino!
I completely disagree. Entry pricing on a PC was and is WAY higher than it is to buy a smart phone. Newest iPhone? $200, with a two year contract. Most people just renew, and even if they do they can sell their old phone as an unlocked phone for as much as they paid for it, making their new phone essentially free. New PC? At least $700, if you want to game on it. Depends on your old components. Compatibility is restricted to two or three models on an iPhone, where on a PC you have almost infinite build types. Android is a different story, but iPhone games are still huge enough. Updates on a phone are irrelevant, as you kinda gotta do em eventually, but more importantly they don't change your phone's performance. Additionally, the infrastructure is in place now to make updating not a big deal.
From what I've heard that isn't true. Older iPhones and iPod Touches basically hit slow down central once iOS5 came around. I also was referring to hardware refreshes as updates. Annual phones are very analogous to the CPU/GPU refreshes PCs get. There's always a changing landscape and you're guaranteed to be behind the curve if you don't pick up the newest refresh versus the static 1 purchase you need for a console or a handheld.
I also don't really care what most people do, since most people don't even play on PC. But since we're comparing what not everyone does, the list MSRP for the average smart phone is actually that of a decent PC well above what the average handheld costs.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
At that point you've agreed to pay $2096 just to get the phone. A capable gaming rig doesn't cost that much.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
BOOST Mobile + Metro PCS!.... SON!
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I think Aqua Teen Hunger Force warned me about Boost.
lol. I think Steam-GAF may want to have a word with you about that. I'm no PC gamer but I'm pretty sure you can get a midrange LAPTOP for like $450, easily.
assuming mid range = 4GB ram and non-integrated graphics, that wouldn't be easy
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Bad argument, as most people are going to pay for a cell phone anyway for, you know, the phone function. It's a cost most people look at the same as rent/utilities/gas/internet.. part of life you just have to pay.
Problem is people get these phones on the most expensive plans, which are way beyond what is needed as part of normal life.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I know you're joking but if the next Xbox and Playstation don't release in 2012 (doubt it) then I'd consider Wii U like in between this gen and next-gen based on its rumored hardware specs. That's just me.
teruterubozu
Member
Phonomezer
Banned
6 years!
Have you heard what she said and predicted about the iPad before and even after it was first released in 2010. Don't take her too seriously.
There's no such thing as an "in between" gen, and specs don't determine generation.