I dunno, have you watched the DF tech review video? Ratchet looks to have all of those things. Sure, the art style is cartoony over a more lifelike style in gow and hzd but the character models and animation still look top notch to me and the amount of shit going on all over the screen can't be called anything other than insane detail. Even the spent rounds on the ground and bugs flying around are fully fleshed out models when you zoom in on photo mode. Insomniac are miracle workers though. To think that they have released 3 full games in the last 3 years, their output is insane. I wasn't planning to buy a PS5 but R&C looks like a genuine system seller to me.Small game vs big game. While ratchet and clank are impressive ps5 next gen games, they are small, compared to last hzd and gow. Those games have insane details, characters, movements, that makes ratchet and clank baby. I am surprised ps4 can handle those games. If they get ps5 patch, i wouldnt be surprised if they will be considered a ps5 game.
That's the point I was making! PS5 dev kits weren't out when development started and neither were finalized specs.Exactly. That means they wouldve had MORE time to finish the game, not less.
They literally had all the time in the world to make a true next gen game. They chose not to.
Idiot Jim Ryan allocating valuable dev resources to port a game on the system where no one will play it. Surely neogaf experts know better if this is financially viable than CEO of multi-billion corporation and dozens of business analysts.UK Sales only because NPD doesn't believe in releasing numbers anymore.
Here is the relevant bit.
This comes after Spiderman Miles continues to top the chart every other week whenever they get PS5s in stock clearly showing that a large number of people were waiting to buy it on PS5. Not to mention the fact that we are only in May 2021 so by the time Horizon, GoW and GT7 launch next year, the userbase should be doubled skewing these numbers in favor of PS5 even more.
This isnt new btw. We saw similar splits with cross gen games like Watch Dogs and Destiny last gen.
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PS5 and Resident Evil Village dominate May | UK Monthly Charts
Almost 200,000 games consoles were sold in the UK during May, according to sales tracker GfK Entertainment. It's a rise…www.gamesindustry.biz
Spiderman Miles proves you can make up those sales as more PS5s get sold. Games dont stop selling after day one you know.Note to OP 15/20% is still a lot worldwide.....
Its not the character model, but the environment. The environment on these games are insane level of details, and being bigger game makes it more crazy. Unless ratchet acts as hzd world, it wont be the same level. Also, its easy to beef up small game graphic wise to insane level, compared to game level like hzd, spiderman and gow. Look how the medium turned out. small games, but impossible to run on the xbox1.I dunno, have you watched the DF tech review video? Ratchet looks to have all of those things. Sure, the art style is cartoony over a more lifelike style in gow and hzd but the character models and animation still look top notch to me and the amount of shit going on all over the screen can't be called anything other than insane detail. Even the spent rounds on the ground and bugs flying around are fully fleshed out models when you zoom in on photo mode. Insomniac are miracle workers though. To think that they have released 3 full games in the last 3 years, their output is insane. I wasn't planning to buy a PS5 but R&C looks like a genuine system seller to me.
I really dont buy this excuse. Cerny talked about how they had implemented kraken support in their i/o going back to 2017. If anyone knows what the spec target was, its the first party studios. Hell, Team ICE at ND was directly involved in the PS4 design. GG is up there with Team ICE. There is no way they didnt know since they literally created a launch game for the PS4. You think they started development on KZSD AFTER they got the devkits?That's the point I was making! PS5 dev kits weren't out when development started and neither were finalized specs.
Op, There is something called world wide audience. your chart is specifically UK. It wont be the same as those other countries. MM would be do poorly in Japanese market, compared to the UK sales, While persona will do amazing in the Japanese market, compared to the UK. Returnal same. UK chart isnt the answer to the worldwide audience.Spiderman Miles proves you can make up those sales as more PS5s get sold. Games dont stop selling after day one you know.
Sony might lose 15% sales on GOW on Day one. So if it sells like TLOU2 which sold $240 million in three days, Sony will lose $25 million. But they will make it up as the year goes on and will easily make up those sales by the end of the fiscal year. If not, by the end of the quarter. These games are NOT coming out today. They are coming out NEXT year when the PS5 will have at least 25 million userbase.
RE8 sold this much on a 8 million userbase. The hardcores are the ones who have the PS5 and they are the ones who buy games on Day one.
Feel free to present the data you have. Or make a thread when we do have other data that shows different. I wont stop you.Op, There is something called world wide audience. your chart is specifically UK. It wont be the same as those other countries. MM would be do poorly in Japanese market, compared to the UK sales, While persona will do amazing in the Japanese market, compared to the UK. Returnal same. UK chart isnt the answer to the worldwide audience.
So far, ps5 has sold over 7.8m as of April 28. That is worldwide sales. not just UK. only 15% of ps4 uk owners bought the game, while 48% bought it there. But do you know how much did re8 sold on UK? That is the problem of your sales. Until we have worldwide data, releasing those games on next gen is a losing business. Not every ps5 owner is interests in every game that is released on ps5 as of now. that is potential sales lost. And worst, you have to deal with other region, not purchasing your game.
Hope you learn how sales are conducted first, before you jump on the gun.
But they also don’t have to lie and they should have been be clear about the cross-gen strategy from the start.for Sony PS4 was 25% of RE8 sales. that isn't exactly small change.
and majority of PS+ subscribers are still on PS4. they can't end support for the biggest revenue base.
I am not saying they should cancel them.
I am saying first party studios shouldve never started them as PS4 titles.
Only 11% on PC? Is piracy still a thing or something?
Feel free to present the data you have. Or make a thread when we do have other data that shows different. I wont stop you.
Right now, this is the best and ONLY indicator of cross gen sales performance we have. It's a valid comparison until other sales results get posted.
That's...something I wouldn't use in defence of the pc sales considered the broken mess it's such game.RE8 is not a PC focused franchise. Cyberpunk is and it sold 60% on PC.
I am not aware of village being pirated on pc.Only 11% on PC? Is piracy still a thing or something?
Cyberpunk is and it sold 60% on PC.
I'm assuming about 10/15% were on Stadia right?That's in the UK alone....
smfh
NPD reported more than 50% of sales of RE8 were PS consoles, 25% PC, and the rest were Xbox.
But they also don’t have to lie and they should have been be clear about the cross-gen strategy from the start.
Veering into a side story but folks say physical is dead because you can get games immediately and without leaving the house but most retailers aren’t stupid and aggressively try and mail stuff in the 24 hours around release. I would still argue that if your goal is to play ASAP then digital is best but I’m fine waiting for first impressions and in some cases definitive editions.31% on Xbox, for anyone interested. It wasnt included for some reason..
I found this interesting -
Werent we just told not long ago that both Playstation and Xbox were over 80% digital now?
The 60% is before it was taken off Playstation.Cyberpunk sold a large proportion on PC because it was taken off the Playstation store.
Really? When? When they put GT7 as PS5 exclusive? Or when they deliberately hide the fact that Miles and other cross-gen games are not PS5 exclusive? Or when they believed in generations? Please enlighten me.They did. For those who read.
Maybe they hit a snag in the crunch-heavy months leading up to PS5 release. Did anything happen in 2020?They had all the tools in the world to start development just like they have in the years past.
Really? When? When they put GT7 as PS5 exclusive? Or when they deliberately hide the fact that Miles and other cross-gen games are not PS5 exclusive? Or when they believed in generations? Please enlighten me.
Sony doesnt make Fifa and CoD.Early adopters are the playerbase that buy games like RE.
The vast majority are COD/FIFA gamers (Who are still on PS4).
Dont blame the pandemic for this. This decision was made in 2017 when China was still developing the coronavirus in the Wuhan lab. China created a bioweapon in time for a 2020 release while Sony couldnt get a next gen Horizon ready for a 2020 PS5 launch.Maybe they hit a snag in the crunch-heavy months leading up to PS5 release. Did anything happen in 2020?
?31% on Xbox, for anyone interested. It wasnt included for some reason..
I found this interesting -
Werent we just told not long ago that both Playstation and Xbox were over 80% digital now?
It's in the OP.43% of Resident Evil sales were on PS5, 31% on Xbox, 15% on PS4 and 11% on PC.
No I agree, Microsoft paid China to create the rona with money Laundered by Trump academy into the Fauci secret bio weapons division. They knew the PS5 was going to launch too powerfully so they decided to slow the world down. I get it.Dont blame the pandemic for this. This decision was made in 2017 when China was still developing the coronavirus in the Wuhan lab. China created a bioweapon in time for a 2020 release while Sony couldnt get a next gen Horizon ready for a 2020 PS5 launch.
just a joke, not a conspiracy theory Evillore.
The 60% is before it was taken off Playstation.
good thing the game appears to be selling well on all systems then.Spiderman Miles proves you can make up those sales as more PS5s get sold. Games dont stop selling after day one you know.
Sony might lose 15% sales on GOW on Day one. So if it sells like TLOU2 which sold $240 million in three days, Sony will lose $25 million. But they will make it up as the year goes on and will easily make up those sales by the end of the fiscal year. If not, by the end of the quarter. These games are NOT coming out today. They are coming out NEXT year when the PS5 will have at least 25 million userbase.
RE8 sold this much on a 8 million userbase. The hardcores are the ones who have the PS5 and they are the ones who buy games on Day one.
No. GT7 is not just an outlier. It is the whole stupid strategy since Jimbo took his role. You don’t talk about how your new powerful console will change game design with a clear presentation and follow that up with “Believe in generations” bullshit and make most of your games cross-gen unless It is deliberate or a sudden change which is even worse.I've mentioned in other thread, GT7 was an outlier. What changed lately, who knows. Year ago Miles Morales was announced as PlayStation exclusive, Horizon FW announced as PlayStation exclusive So, cut the crap. Next-gen games like Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet and Astro are PS5 games only. Next-gen games delivered. Cheers
Someone posted the tweet from CDPR Twitter yesterday in another thread. It was from 3 days after launch, '12mil sales, 60% on PC etc'.Even if it was (which I'm not sure it was, the game was removed from PSN within a week), it was known at release how shit the game ran on consoles so many stayed away from it unless they had it pre-ordered. Contrast that to the Witcher 3, which in its initial year sold 48 percent on PlayStation to 31 percent PC.
No. GT7 is not just an outlier. It is the whole stupid strategy since Jimbo took his role. You don’t talk about how your new powerful console will change game design with a clear presentation and follow that up with “Believe in generations” bullshit and make most of your games cross-gen unless It is deliberate or a sudden change which is even worse.
I am not saying they should cancel them.
I am saying first party studios shouldve never started them as PS4 titles.