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[shaddam]

Seeing TLOU part 2 on those weak and old jaguars I'm sure I will be happy with my outdated ps5

 

[TheTechnician]

This announcement killed any interest I had in getting the PS5. Spent dinner chatting with brother on building a desk top for the living room.

Enjoy ratchet and clank, I’ll take Cyber Punk please.

Cyberpunk should be fine for your calculator. Its does come out for this gen aswell so your woodclass storage will be up to the task.

Ratchet & Clank from PS5 would get rendered picture by picture on that laptop..

 

[Shrap]

This announcement killed any interest I had in getting the PS5. Spent dinner chatting with brother on building a desk top for the living room.

Enjoy ratchet and clank, I’ll take Cyber Punk please.

You were never buying a PS5.

 

[Warnen]

You were never buying a PS5.

signed up for the perorder thing. I tend to buy tech shit on impulse even if I don’t need it. When them preorders go live it’s to tempting.

last console I wasn’t going to buy was the Xbox one x, got 2 of them. Before that was thenps4 pro, got 2 of them and before that was the Wii U, got 2 of them also...

 

[Beelzebubs]

What a silly hot take.

Nothing is being made outdated. Consoles and PCs are different products.

And yet Gamepass is a thing

 

[Veysetia]

OP must be one of the people needing to upgrade their PC every month to "stay current". Some crazy people like me build one really good PC once every 8-10 years. Graphics do not make a game.

 

[Jtibh]

Alt account with 114 posts since 2018 trying to cause a shit storm.

Thread lock incoming

 

[Danjin44]

And I should care about this why?......If I was that obsess about power then I would have bought PC by now, but getting super powerful PC is not gonna get me the games I want so whats the point?

I took a decade for PC to finally get Persona 4 Golden, how long it would take to get 13 Sentinels or SMTV on PC1?

 

[Shrap]

signed up for the perorder thing. I tend to buy tech shit on impulse even if I don’t need it. When them preorders go live it’s to tempting.

I've seen your posts. You've been shitting on Sony and vehemently defending Microsoft this whole time just to turn around and buy a PS5?

Come on man.

 

[Golgo 13]

Consoles with their low level API will be able to punch above their weight. Like every gen we will see the same pattern.
Early (third party)games will portray them as weak (less usage of low level APIs but rather easier to progrsmm for high level ones),
and later in the Gen they will catch up and if we are lucky we will have at some point a state of the art PS5 exclusive again proving this fact just like the HZD PC port did.

I mostly game on PC these days, but this is so true. Eventually, the best looking games will be exclusives released on PS5 (since Microsoft doesn't believe in generations LOL), 3-4 years from now, eclipsing anything on PC. But these new Nvidia cards are fucking beastly, and Nvidia knew they had this "ace in the hole" for when the consoles launched, they've been silently waiting to drop this bomb. Sneaky bitches.

 

[Gamer79]

PC GAMER:

 

[Warnen]

I've seen your posts. You've been shitting on Sony and vehemently defending Microsoft this whole time just to turn around and buy a PS5?

Come on man.

well let’s face it if you don’t drink the cool-aid here you are defending MS. Before the Xbox one X hit I played 90% of my games on a PS4.

 

[Shrap]

well let’s face it if you don’t drink the cool-aid here you are defending MS. Before the Xbox one X hit I played 90% of my games on a PS4.

Just stop. There's nothing wrong with hating Sony as everyone has preferences. Just be upfront about it.

 

[Strider Highwind]

Nvidia did exactly what folks were expecting/hoping for power wise

The entry point for that tech is mindblowing. If Sony starts pushing their exclusives to PC then why even console game with the 3070 being the same price as the the consoles?

Im getting the 3090...and if we get any more concrete signs of Sony trying their hand at PC more than that little corporate briefing thing + Horizon/Death Stranding....then I more than likely won't even look at console gaming for this generation.

Then again if Sony DIDNT push more exclusives over to PC then that puts them in better position...Why get a Series X if a 3070 is available

 

[bender]

 

[Warnen]

Just stop. There's nothing wrong with hating Sony as everyone has preferences. Just be upfront about it.

only if you cry about it, I feed on tears, it cools my ssd if you know what I mean.

 

[Shrap]

Nvidia did exactly what folks were expecting/hoping for power wise

The entry point for that tech is mindblowing. If Sony starts pushing their exclusives to PC then why even console game with the 3070 being the same price as the the consoles?

If they do that then I'm out of the console game for good. We already get MS exclusives on PC so to have Sony's as well would be massive.

I just don't know if Sony would do it.

 

[Jtibh]

well let’s face it if you don’t drink the cool-aid here you are defending MS. Before the Xbox one X hit I played 90% of my games on a PS4.

Checking your posts prior xbox one x release.....brb

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

By you.

Didn't you literally make a thread where the op was you shitting on PC gaming cause you made a bad purchase?

 

[BattleScar]

Oh no. New technology has been announced. Whatever will we do.

 

[Warnen]

Checking your posts prior xbox one x release.....brb

check the other forum, played mostly Sony exclusives and Destiny for years. I did end up getting Witcher for Xbox because my PS4 controller was always dead from playing other stuff so didnt want to to wait to play it.

The PS4 pro/PSvr thing got on my nerves a bit (not passing hdr thru and major flickering issues) but still was my main system untill the Xbox one x came and destiny went cross save.

 

[Abriael_GN]

And yet Gamepass is a thing

And... how does that make consoles and PCs any similar in any way?

 

[odhiex]

I heard this PC gaming is awesome, I should jump in..lol

 

[TLZ]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

Sure yea everyone's going to buy the $1500 graphics card. Because we know every PC gamer will. Not that more than 95% of them buy low to midrange cards. Not at all.

 

[Krisprolls]

So while PC/XSX version will be 4K/60, the PC version will be what ? 8K/120 ? What's the point ?

If I must freeze the game and count every pixel to see the difference, or buy cybernetic eyes, why should I care ?

Diminishing returns killed the need to put so much money in a PC for better versions, in my opinion, unless you're absolutely crazy about graphics and fps. I've got money to buy any Nvidia card, but I like to get my money's worth, and here it's just not there for me. PS4 Pro was already pretty close to PC versions... That's why I keep my 1070 PC for PC exclusives only, and I won't upgrade it.

What's sure is console exclusives will run more than fine. The rest is about games. And games are mostly about talent and budget. Those are often on consoles.

 

[MadchesterManc]

OP reads like it was written on a GT 1030

 

[Dr_Salt]

Sure yea everyone's going to buy the $1500 graphics card. Because we know every PC gamer will. Not that more than 95% of them buy low to midrange cards. Not at all.

The thing is even the 3070 is a beast and it has a pretty decent price also. The three cards shown today are better than the gpu in any console that´s a fact.

 

[Thicc Enigma]

First the AMD funeral thread, now this.

FYI: All consoles, every new console generation gets "outdated" by PC. It's nothing new. PCs have new components made from hundreds of different manufacturers throughout the year while a console either gets a mid gen refresh (something that recently started) or gets a new version of that console every 6-7 years.

In other words, water is wet.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Makes the Series X look worse as that doesn't even have any next gen gameplay shown off yet.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Nvidia did exactly what folks were expecting/hoping for power wise

The entry point for that tech is mindblowing. If Sony starts pushing their exclusives to PC then why even console game with the 3070 being the same price as the the consoles?

Gosh, I can't wait to plug my controller into my new 3070 and play the games it projects onto my wall in 4K HDR.

Or, alternatively, you'd also need to factor the cost of potential RAM, CPU, Mobo, PSU, and Monitor upgrades. Especially the latter two.

Yes this is impressive, but let's not pretend this is a console killer, man.

I'm also lowkey pissed that Nvidia basically confirmed the rumors that they both held back on their GPU tech AND overcharged for what they did put out with the 20 series.

 

[Vawn]

Some people also say that the Earth is flat.

Uh.. look outside. It's pretty flat.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Uh.. look outside. It's pretty flat.

Son, I better see a JK edited in there.

 

[Redlancet]

The entry point for that tech is mindblowing. If Sony starts pushing their exclusives to PC then why even console game with the 3070 being the same price as the the consoles?

You forgot to add some componentes to that price, last time i checked a cpu, power suply, ram, Mother board, etc were needed to run the card

 

[GhostOfTsu]

Power is irrelevant. Can you play Nintendo and Sony exclusives on PC on Day 1? No?

Bye!

 

[Great Hair]

Exhibit A - 3950X, 64GB, RTX3090 DLSS3.0 8K

Spoiler

Exhibit B - PlAyStaTiOn FaiF FORKAI

Spoiler

I rest my case, your Honor!

 

[Fake]

Some people also say that the Earth is flat.

Damn.

 

[Vawn]

Son, I better see a JK edited in there.

Are you an ant? Can you walk on walls? No? Then you can't walk on the side of a ball. People believe whatever the government tells them to.

 

[Andodalf]

If they held back AMD is more to blame. As for the 2000 series, we all knew that TF didn’t raise as much as they might to make room for RTX and Tensor cores

 

[J____Av]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

Your boys will hate you and not appreciate the power

 

[CobraAB]

Just when I thought it was all about the games at the end.

 

[BlackTron]

I just typed "BREAKING NEWS: high end PC hardware is way better than consoles" in that other thread, try to go on with my day and walk right into this.

WTF is going on today???

 

[Bryank75]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

I had that reaction initially...I was saying to myself that I could delay buying a PS5 and just build a PC with a 3080 but then I looked at the games on PS5 over the next year and other potential exclusives....

PS5 will always justify its existence and it's wide adoption as long as it has great games that are not on other platforms bolstered by 3rd party exclusives and content.

The elimination of load times and hidden loading like elevators will make a huge difference too.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

 

[Drunkensamurai]

These consoles have no release date or price yet they are going to release outdated. I am a PC gamer but been on console most of this gen because of my kids.

It's been obvious that Nvidia has been holding back a jump with video cards for 5+ years releasing cards that barley make any jump. These 3000 series cards just prove that and now make next gen consoles not even out very outdated.

I have never been less excited for the next wave of consoles. I might just say F it and build a PC for me and my boys instead.

Remind me again how much it cost to build a high-end PC for gaming.

 

[PerfectDark]

I am a PC gamer on console for my kids. The jump is great but Nvidia held this back

 

[The Alien]

If by "outdated" you mean not 'too of the line'. Then yeah, consoles are outdated.

As expected.
As it has been for all of eternity.

 

[PerfectDark]

Remind me again how much it cost to build a high-end PC for gaming.

Cost you about $1300 to build a ryzen 3000 series with a rtx 3070 super. $1500 for a 3080 super. Of course that goes with a nice gold+ psu, case, 16 or maybe 32gb of ram, mobo and a 1tb ssd.

I understand consoles offer great value for the hardware. Allot of people have allot of money. I would pay 2k for a console with 3090 rtx super. Sick of limitations on stuff. Be like if the best TV you could buy would be a $500 TV.

I want a monster of a console. I do not want a PC.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Are you an ant? Can you walk on walls? No? Then you can't walk on the side of a ball. People believe whatever the government tells them to.

Oh sweet Jesus I'm starting to believe you're serious.

 

[Soltype]

I have no doubt nvidia's been drip feeding performance, they don't have any real incentive to blow their load.