Salvor.Hardin
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Man it must suck dick to be a conservative Christian this election. Vote for the Christian Muslim Communist gay loving incumbent or vote for the Mormon?
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Obama announces support for same-sex marriage
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Will take a day. They tape well in advance.
Actually they might get some in there. I'm in Japan so my time conversion was a bit off. Its 5am here.
Does DADT exist now if he publicly supported gay marriage then?
Escape Goat
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Didn't she stand before the UN last year and say violence and discrimination against gays were human right violations?
They tape at 6/7, it's 4 now.
Father_Brain
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Exactly which social conservatives are we concerned about being swayed here? African-Americans and Latinos, who have voted for years in large majorities for Democrats who they know are more socially liberal than they are themselves?
Considering 4 years ago he would not have won the primary if he had supported it.
Yup. But not marriage.
perfectchaos007
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He also came out in support of the decriminalization of marijuana in his last campaign which is equally as controversial. Given his recant on that subject, I'll have to brush this of as a campaign tactic and nothing more. The adage "Fool me once..." is fitting here
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I eagerly await going home to Boystown to see what happened.
Edit: Nevermind, my neighbor called me in tears. Happy tears.
Yeah I edited. I thought it was like 10pm right now in the states. I wasn't thinking. It's 5am where I am.
This might help improve the image of Mormons amongst other Christians, because by contrasting Romney with Obama, it makes them seem like one of them.
Escape Goat
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Well, she did endorse marriage whether she intended to or not. Denying marriage is discrimination! Get it together, Hil!
Souldriver
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Awesome. Anyone with a decent brain could tell you he quietly thought this way. But openly endorsing gay marriage, in election year, takes balls and I commend him for that.
People (Gaborn) have to be reasonable on this issue. This is a situation where ends justify the means. If he had been pro-gay marriage publicly from the start, he wouldn't have become president in the first place I reckon.
Now, I'm really excited by this. But lord hold me if this will become an issue that costs him the election. In that scenario I would be absolutely furious with the outcome.
People (Gaborn) have to be reasonable on this issue. This is a situation where ends justify the means. If he had been pro-gay marriage publicly from the start, he wouldn't have become president in the first place I reckon.
Now, I'm really excited by this. But lord hold me if this will become an issue that costs him the election. In that scenario I would be absolutely furious with the outcome.
airmangataosenai
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CTRL+F: "Gaborn"
You never disappoint. Regardless of whether his previous denials were politically motivated this is a huge moment for the LGBT movement.
You never disappoint. Regardless of whether his previous denials were politically motivated this is a huge moment for the LGBT movement.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Foxnews.
Hahahaha no i actually think Obama is christian. He hasn't been terrible but i don't agree with some of his stuff. I'll end up voting for a 3rd though. Neither are really great and more than two super parties would be way healthy for the politics of this country.
Does this actually do anything or is it just kind of a press conference thing?
soul creator
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since he stated in 2008 that he personally opposed it due to religious reasons (though he was ok with states allowing it), this obviously means that he's no longer religious.
Or maybe god just came to tell him the correct position to "evolve" to?
teehee
Or maybe god just came to tell him the correct position to "evolve" to?
teehee
But what do the boys at The Abbey and Splash have to say about THAT?!
It was not fun to be a gay Obama supporter in the primaries, even if those types of places aren't necessarily where my social circles coalesce
Harry Potter
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He has my vote...and my axe.
Tonight, tomorrow if they've filmed todays episode already.
I really couldn't give a shit what it does for him or his election. Its unarguable progress. And its the right thing to do.
Vire
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Father_Brain
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Keep in mind, John Kerry won in 2004 in two states (Oregon and Michigan) that passed same-sex marriage bans the same night. And that was in an election where social issues were much bigger than they presumably will be this year.
Souldriver
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Was Kerry pro-gay marriage though?
They film around 6/7 PM EST, so this will absolutely be in tonight's episode.
ConfusingJazz
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2004 is a lot different then 2012.
GillianSeed79
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Awesome. I'm glad he took the right position. It's 2012 after all. I just hope he doesn't lose any key swing states because of it. Oh well, what's right is right. Elections be damned.
Not that my state matters anyway in his re-election bid.
Not that my state matters anyway in his re-election bid.
PhoenixDark
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It won't cost him the election. People are focused on the economy.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
He opposed Big "M" Marriage, as it pertains to religious folks. But was all about legal equality and civil unions.
Stop derailing this with your evangelical atheism. JNC:
Father_Brain
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Of course it is. I just don't see how it's different in a way that's likely to favor the Chicken Little side here. At least, not yet.
West Virginians unite!
Man, this "WAR ON X"-rhetoric is so stupid.Fucking hell...
Ahem
Some examples of the Fox News (not FoxNation) comments section, without getting even 10 posts deep:
I would like to thank you, average Fox News comment poster, for reminding me why I fight. That no matter how hopeless or inexorably lost a cause may seem, the fire inside that compels me, when I see true ignorance, to get out of my seat and shout in opposition, has not yet died.
I'm making a donation to the Obama campaign right now, and I'm now certain I will be canvassing support when it gets closer to November just as hard as I did in 2008.
Some examples of the Fox News (not FoxNation) comments section, without getting even 10 posts deep:
I would like to thank you, average Fox News comment poster, for reminding me why I fight. That no matter how hopeless or inexorably lost a cause may seem, the fire inside that compels me, when I see true ignorance, to get out of my seat and shout in opposition, has not yet died.
I'm making a donation to the Obama campaign right now, and I'm now certain I will be canvassing support when it gets closer to November just as hard as I did in 2008.
polyh3dron
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That's what Fox News was telling its minons before, but now the economy seems to have become less important.
Also, WTF is "OBOSO"? Is that Obama's "real" last name that he's been hiding from us?
SolsticeZero
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So we shout start the "War on 'war on' war?
The kind of people who were swayed by this sort of thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4 Not African-American and Latino voters, no, but poorly-informed swing voters.
not sure what reaction is more ridiculous yet predictable, fox nation's or gaborn's. haha
great to see him stand up on the issue. i just watched the interview and thought he explained it in a calm, thoughtful way which i like, though obviously that's going to be lost as the headline announcement is digested and reacted to.
great to see him stand up on the issue. i just watched the interview and thought he explained it in a calm, thoughtful way which i like, though obviously that's going to be lost as the headline announcement is digested and reacted to.
Escape Goat
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Gotta brand your ideology so people can get the talking points yo.
shoplifter
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the correct answer is: all the way through, during thanksgiving dinner.
SolsticeZero
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Thankfully the internet already print screened the original
Lol, they already changed it.
Appropriate, since otherwise they would contradict themselves by saying that "Wars" is an inappropriate term for stuff like this.
The Librarian
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Well right now they're arguing that Obama came out in support of gay marriage to distract from the economy, and that the press should not focus on this issue.
Crumpet Trumpet
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