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Older Disney Animation Quality
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I wasn't expecting Tarzan to be the example for "older" Disney animation, but as a huge fan of Tarzan, I approve the recognition.
I have the giant collector's edition hardback book with tons of drawings and stuff from Tarzan. It's a really under-appreciated Disney animated feature in my opinion.
Looks incredible and, at the time, i often used the DVD as a reference for image quality when setting up my home theatres. Like, how good does my Tarzan look on this setup?
I should get an HD version.
I have the giant collector's edition hardback book with tons of drawings and stuff from Tarzan. It's a really under-appreciated Disney animated feature in my opinion.
Looks incredible and, at the time, i often used the DVD as a reference for image quality when setting up my home theatres. Like, how good does my Tarzan look on this setup?
I should get an HD version.
EatinOlives
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Did you catch Studio Ghibli's stuff? They had limited releases but even I could find screenings.
XANDER CAGE
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Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Now, finding those Song of the Sea screenings. That's an adventure on itself.
Still blows my mind that Mike Mignola (Hellboy) worked on Atlantis.
Aaron Strife
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That gif sucks there's no shading
I love how modern anime heading towards "Disney quality animation" is portrayed as a bad thing.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Pretty cool to see how Tangled would look in 2D.
I can watch these gifs all day.
I can watch these gifs all day.
Oh yes, she was:
Yup. Makes great gifs too:
P.S: I don't agree with Snow White, i don't think you're a cunt.
There's a lot more personality in these gifs than in the 3D models... :-\Pretty cool to see how Tangled would look in 2D.
I can watch these gifs all day.
Buckethead
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As someone who is a big fan of Keane and Disney, I find 90s Disney to be pretty overrated.
It's not that some of the films weren't great, they were, but they went more towards this staged, "movie-ish" thing. I don't know why it's so hard to craft an original story or deviate from the same schtick you've done a thousand times. This criticism is more vague than intended but I stand behind it.
It's not that some of the films weren't great, they were, but they went more towards this staged, "movie-ish" thing. I don't know why it's so hard to craft an original story or deviate from the same schtick you've done a thousand times. This criticism is more vague than intended but I stand behind it.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
they dont suffer from disney sameface syndrome
While ultimately the 2D film scene has dried up, I would say that the 2D TV scene has never been in a better spot.
Shows like Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Regular Show etc are a dream for the teams behind them - being incredibly creator driven with bizaarre or out there premises and art styles.
Shows like Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, Regular Show etc are a dream for the teams behind them - being incredibly creator driven with bizaarre or out there premises and art styles.
Blargonaut
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Pretty cool to see how Tangled would look in 2D.
I can watch these gifs all day.
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Which Earth-# did this version exist on
I need to phase there permanently
Never.I'd love to.
I think this looks terrible. When they make it too obvious theyre using video to draw from it almost looks like crappy rotoscope.
Jorok Goldblade
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The Lion King was a B-project. Their A-Team with the better budget was working on Pocahontas at the time.
MrSaturn99
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Pretty cool to see how Tangled would look in 2D.
I can watch these gifs all day.
So can I. I'd had loved to see Tangled and Frozen in 2D.
The only 3D Disney film I thought was that great was maybe Wreck-It Ralph.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Lmfao that couldn't have been made to be anything other than a joke right? There's multiple distinct reasons why simpler styles and character designs are the norm in western animation. Less is more philosophy=easier for the audience to remember the character design, easier to animate so that the end result looks better being two of the biggest reasons. Anime has some shit tier animation more often than not, and not so coincidentally, the most memorable ones don't use insanely detailed designs.
I'm waiting for a resurgence of black and white myself
immortal-joe
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Smooth flowing motion is my 2D animation fetish
But even then, it would probably still look a ton better in 2D.
It's a shame traditional animation is practically dead nowadays.
In regards to old classical animators, I guess I'll pimp these video compilations I found here http://www.pelleas.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=881
Don Patterson
Bill Littlejohn
Robert Mckimson
Bill Tytla
Les Clark
Grim Natwick
Rod Scribner
Ward Kimball
Milt Kahl
Don Patterson
Bill Littlejohn
Robert Mckimson
Bill Tytla
Les Clark
Grim Natwick
Rod Scribner
Ward Kimball
Milt Kahl
Bornstellar
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Please come back to me 2D.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
People will never be tired of 3d animation as it's always looking better and better with each big film.
Wasn't that Tangled? Or was Frozen really in the works before Tangled and Wreck it Ralph?
Cuban Legend
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Beauty and the Beast was an amazing 2d animated film. even the few CGI parts were amazing.
Trickster
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Regarding your comment about anime often having shit tier animation. I agree that the anime tv series often have horrible animation.
However, from my understanding, that has more to do with the budgets for anime in general being much much lower than their western/american counterparts, rather than it being because there is more detail present in japanese animation. Even the absolute top of the pop level of anime like Spirited Away only had a budget of 19 million dollars. While a movie like Lilo and Stich had a budget of 80 million.
"People will never be tired of 2D animation."
Jesus Christ this film.
Black-Wind
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No, it was Tangleds SUCCESS that sealed it. Frozen was still being trumpeted as Disney's proof that they were committed to pumping out a 2D film every other odd year .... then Tangled pulled a ...
Then they forgot about that shit they promised and went for the 3D promise land after making their first "Disney Styled" hit in 3D ...
They also wanted to go the "boy route" with 3D which is why we got WiR (and maybe bh6?) ... but then Frozen pulled a ..
And now they're likely tripping over themselves to find a way to capitalize on this musical/ frozen phenomenon when they already have their next w/e years of movies deep deeeep in production (one being about a Fox and a Rabbit I think ... and one about a Hawaiian Princess/ girl? )
BKatastrophe
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It probably won't ever because, last I checked, Disney no longer possesses the rights, and therefore can't do anything with the property. It's also why Deep Jungle (based on Tarzan) has never, nor will ever appear in another Kingdom Hearts game (not like it's a loss in that respect, since it's one of my least favorite worlds in the franchise).
I've been reading the Hellboy Library Editions for the past year or so now, and I can definitely see the similarities. I love his style.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Budget is a big part of it, also the fact that they seem to value quantity over quality.
With the success of many recent CG films I don't think we're anywhere near close to seeing a crash in the market. And 2D animation has been doing great, at least on CN with all those amazing shows.
Winnie The Pooh (2011) being a massive box-office brick and Tangled being huge despite its budget woes sealed the deal for John.
Vulcano's assistant
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Did Glen Keane bail out of Disney because frozen was not made in 2D?
Sounds like a nostalgia bias talking
Beren the Empty-Handed
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I'll never buy the statement that 2D animation dwindled because of CGI animation. It dwindled because the majority of CGI animated movies made starting in the late 90s had better stories, characters, and execution. There were perfectly good 2D films too, but on the whole they were inferior. Then some executives took a look at the data and determined that the CGI movies were making more money than the 2D ones and assumed it was because people loved the technology, instead of contemplating that maybe they were just better films. And then Princess and the Frog was merely okay, and Winnie went up against Harry Potter. How could anyone expect those movies to be smash hits? But nope, it must be because nobody likes 2D animation anymore.
Also, just rewatched Fantasia the other day. That movie is still one of the best-looking things I've ever seen.
Also, just rewatched Fantasia the other day. That movie is still one of the best-looking things I've ever seen.
This is such a fail.
Some of the western animation and especially Disney animation is leagues beyond Anime animation. Animes can never compare in terms of animation fluidity since they use far fewer frames for animations than something like Sleeping Beauty.
Also when it comes to shading, this picture overlooks the fact that the background in western animation is very detailed while in anime it isn't as detailed since the bulk of the time is spent on character's faces.
Black-Wind
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He left after Tangled because he's getting old and wants to spend the rest of his time making his own stories and experimenting with all the wonder and glory that is 2D.
Apparently his vision for the story was VERY different (It was Darker. Rapunzel would have had mental problems as a direct affect of being raised in isolation with her mother being the only person she had ever seen ... and that makes fucktons more sense then her just being some amazingly social butterfly as she turned out to be. The guy was gonna be shy and have lil confidence ... and at first is was gonna be 2D).
Regardless, there was fuckery afoot at Disney regarding 2D and he just wants to spend his time making what he wants to make.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The whole point of those tests is so that the animators would know what to go for and how the characters should be animated. And they captured it wonderfully. It's literally just the 2D style captured in 3D.
Woah wonderful!
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