Oneangrygamer.net: Sony's PS4 Censorship Policy Forces Japanese Devs To Censor Games In Japan

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Not mad at all i just think its pathetic you guys act like sony is the only one censoring shit. And again THE CHICK IS HOLDING THE OTHER CHICKS TIT if it was just some underwear (that wasnt half off) i could see your argument.
This is a strawman. Not only are you claiming that people are only blaming Sony for censorship which is untrue, but you're just throwing that claim out without any supporting evidence. Why is Sony in the limelight regarding this topic? Because it is recent and the story is still ongoing. Sony is being all imperialist on Japanese developers and has yet to make an official statement about their policy.
 
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Not mad at all i just think its pathetic you guys act like sony is the only one censoring shit. And again THE CHICK IS HOLDING THE OTHER CHICKS TIT if it was just some underwear (that wasnt half off) i could see your argument.
By your definition then RDR2 should be censored too. Because there are worse scene in RDR2 (bare breast and sex penetration)
 
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I never would have guessed that I went on to live in a reality where Nintendo is the non-censoring company.
To be fair up until now Nintendo still censoring their first party games too.
At least they only censor text not the content so this still better than Sony.
 
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Not mad at all i just think its pathetic you guys act like sony is the only one censoring shit. And again THE CHICK IS HOLDING THE OTHER CHICKS TIT if it was just some underwear (that wasnt half off) i could see your argument.
The only one acting pathetic here is you, mate. You do nothing but whine that some people want to play uncensored japanese titles. Grow up.
 
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So the only people that are mad about this are 40 year old perverts. Its 2018 censorship is here to stay its not just sony doing this entertainment as a whole is doing this. These anti sony posts are getting out of hand reminds me of the 360 days you guys want sony to fail so bad because they are on top so you pick one thing and just hammer it home. Boo hoo you cant look at a half naked Japanese girl anymore grow the fuck up jesus christ.

Well, enjoy two 14 year olds kissing in The Last of Us, a pedophile attacking one of them, a pedophile attacking and pulling his dong on a 10 year old in Stick of Truth and a 10 year old transgender boy in The fractured but whole, I guess.

(A transgender 10 year old is like a vegan dog, we all know who made the choice.)
 
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Well, enjoy two 14 year olds kissing in The Last of Us, a pedophile attacking one of them, a pedophile attacking and pulling his dong on a 10 year old in Stick of Truth and a 10 year old transgender boy in The fractured but whole, I guess.

(A transgender 10 year old is like a vegan dog, we all know who made the choice.)

We are not talking about the west you fucking idiots we are talking about Japanese games peeiod so all you people keep throwing out westeren games adds nothing the bottom line is JAPANESE games are getting censored not weateren games the u.s while still still in a fragile wussy state is still tame then most of the Japanese softcore porn that is out now that is fact. The last of us 14 year olds kidsing this is news to me and south park is south park th hey literally just had a fucking esp about school shootings soo.....
 
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This is a strawman. Not only are you claiming that people are only blaming Sony for censorship which is untrue, but you're just throwing that claim out without any supporting evidence. Why is Sony in the limelight regarding this topic? Because it is recent and the story is still ongoing. Sony is being all imperialist on Japanese developers and has yet to make an official statement about their policy.

Are you serious? The fucking thread title is a smear campaign against sony. So again just stop this is your guys pathetic attempt to blast sony o no i cant look at some catroon boobs boo hoo again grow the fuck up sony doesnt want that bad pr they are 1st place bad pr right now is not appealing to them so they are nipping it while they can get over it its 2018 sony isbt the only company doing this period
 
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We are not talking about the west you fucking idiots we are talking about Japanese games peeiod so all you people keep throwing out westeren games adds nothing the bottom line is JAPANESE games are getting censored not weateren games the u.s while still still in a fragile wussy state is still tame then most of the Japanese softcore porn that is out now that is fact. The last of us 14 year olds kidsing this is news to me and south park is south park th hey literally just had a fucking esp about school shootings soo.....
So I understood you well, you are OK with porn and pedophilia as long as it is done by publishers and/or countries you approve of? You mind explaining yourself?
 

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Seems like the answer is to develop for some other platform if you can't abide by Sony's policies. What's more important, making money in Sony's walled garden or your artistic freedom as a developer? Well, the answer seems pretty obvious in this case. :)
 

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@WouldYouKindly: Here is the question, why do you care!!? Censored or not you are not going ever play those games, why you care that people who actually interested in those games don't want it to be censored? Its pretty reasonable for people don't want the games they care about be censored.
 
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Would everyone please kindly review their posts prior to submitting? There’s not much to be gained from being a grammatical pedant; but a passing attempt to check for spelling, punctuation and general sentence structure will enhance the readability of your post, as well as provide more and better content for discussion.

Utilization of blanket obscenity to describe the threads’ participants will have the opposite effect.
 
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So I understood you well, you are OK with porn and pedophilia as long as it is done by publishers and/or countries you approve of? You mind explaining yourself?
I dont approve of shit so good try putting words in my mouth. Im saying countries are different simple as that you can go to vending machines in japan and buy used underwear. .. imma do what you are doing so let me get this right your mad because you cant watch two half naked girls in your games? Youre mad because somy is censoring boobs so now your in raged? What are you a pervert?
 
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Would everyone please kindly review their posts prior to submitting? There’s not much to be gained from being a grammatical pedant; but a passing attempt to check for spelling, punctuation and general sentence structure will enhance the readability of your post, as well as provide more and better content for discussion.

Utilization of blanket obscenity to describe the threads’ participants will have the opposite effect.

Lol so mods are now grammer police jesus christ this place has gone down hill so much its sad
 

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I dont approve of shit so good try putting words in my mouth. Im saying countries are different simple as that you can go to vending machines in japan and buy used underwear. .. imma do what you are doing so let me get this right your mad because you cant watch two half naked girls in your games? Youre mad because somy is censoring boobs so now your in raged? What are you a pervert?
Can you just stop calling people names!!? People are mad because they don't want the games they care about be censored. What part of that is hard to understand for you? Or the biggest reason you are even here is to insult people...is that it?
 
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Can you just stop calling people names!!? People are mad because they don't want the games they care about be censored. What part of that is hard to understand for you? Or the biggest reason you are even here is to insult people...is that it?

Insult people lmao please just stop i literally got called a fucking pedophile 3 posts above this why do i care? Because its fucking ridiculous you guys are crying over some cleavage and half off panties. You care about these games? So you can about porn games being censored is it wrong of me to think that youre just mad because you cant get your naked Japanese girl fix?
 

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Insult people lmao please just stop i literally got called a fucking pedophile 3 posts above this why do i care? Because its fucking ridiculous you guys are crying over some cleavage and half off panties. You care about these games? So you can about porn games being censored is it wrong of me to think that youre just mad because you cant get your naked Japanese girl fix?
Why do I even bother, you are another one who likes to shit post. We are getting a lot that in NeoGAF lately.
 
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I dont approve of shit so good try putting words in my mouth. Im saying countries are different simple as that you can go to vending machines in japan and buy used underwear. .. imma do what you are doing so let me get this right your mad because you cant watch two half naked girls in your games? Youre mad because somy is censoring boobs so now your in raged? What are you a pervert?
Look here, if you followed this topic, you would know people passioned has left there jobs, important people for non pervert games, so Sony censoring has a much larger and demeaning effect than just, lol perverts unable to enjoy soft porn with small cute cartoon girls. This is a much much larger purging of anime games in the making.
 
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Are you serious? The fucking thread title is a smear campaign against sony. So again just stop this is your guys pathetic attempt to blast sony o no i cant look at some catroon boobs boo hoo again grow the fuck up sony doesnt want that bad pr they are 1st place bad pr right now is not appealing to them so they are nipping it while they can get over it its 2018 sony isbt the only company doing this period
This post is as incoherent as your logic. I don’t even need to try to refute this if you keep strawmanning. I care less about anime boobs and more about creative freedom. You don’t like anime boobs? Don’t buy the game. The world is still round.

Edit: I would also like to congratulate you for bringing further attention to Sony’s censorship. Thank you.
 
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Half-naked, what? That is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard this week.
That's what people do when they moral grandstand. All they do is shout "I don't like thing! Why do you like thing?! Thing is bad because I say it's bad!" and then, try to get under your skin when called out on their nonsense.
 
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And you haven't provided examples of where else this is happening.
How about almost every single other American company? Try getting that stuff past MS they don't let these games on at all, or Apple (you guessed it, they don't let these games on), or Google (I don't need to say it again). In every single one if there is nudity and something is deemed pornographic (meant to arouse) it is not allowed on those stores. There are countless examples you can find.
 
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How about almost every single other American company? Try getting that stuff past MS they don't let these games on at all, or Apple (you guessed it, they don't let these games on), or Google (I don't need to say it again). In every single one if there is nudity and something is deemed pornographic (meant to arouse) it is not allowed on those stores. There are countless examples you can find.
I am not sure about Apple but Android does allow sexual imagery and games can be rated M or 16+ and warn you if there is sex or sexual imagery. As for Microsoft, can you show me any Japanese companies who have tried submitting to Microsoft? Their platform doesn't really contain the target audience.
 
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How about almost every single other American company? Try getting that stuff past MS they don't let these games on at all, or Apple (you guessed it, they don't let these games on), or Google (I don't need to say it again). In every single one if there is nudity and something is deemed pornographic (meant to arouse) it is not allowed on those stores. There are countless examples you can find.
The difference between the ones you stated above with SIE are : SIE is Japanese company which recently transform to American unlike the others so off course this sudden change of policy will make the fanservice game maker in Japan surprised.
Are you sure SIE after adopt the new policy, they make reasonable decision about how to inform these developer? by the reception of the developer, I dare to say no.
How hard to said :
1. "Hi dev, just because we now a full American company so we must comply with American culture which condone violence and LGBT but not longer can allow content mean to arouse hetero male"
2. "And For now this policy only apply for Anime art style games only"
3. " We will honor all the deal we made with you, so you can release your game unaltered, but all the games which release after 2019 will comply to the new policy"
 
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I dont approve of shit so good try putting words in my mouth. Im saying countries are different simple as that you can go to vending machines in japan and buy used underwear. .. imma do what you are doing so let me get this right your mad because you cant watch two half naked girls in your games? Youre mad because somy is censoring boobs so now your in raged? What are you a pervert?
A typical comment from someone who has actually never been to Japan - "used underwear vending machines" might very well be a thing, but I guarantee you could spend a year looking in many nook and crannies in Japan and never find this mystical, elusive vending machine
 
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Dev addresses Sony's new censorship policy

Most developers are not going to fight this because of how well the PS4 sells. Another reason why we need strong competition.
Problem is Japanese game support on the Xbox is still pretty anemic. It has definitely improved, but there are still several games that skip the platform. In addition, the Japanese games that are getting censored aren't on the Xbox One anyways.

Best case scenario, in my opinion, is that a significant amount of PS4 users switch over to the Switch or PC and buy their versions while the sales of the PS4 version tank.
 
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Problem is Japanese game support on the Xbox is still pretty anemic. It has definitely improved, but there are still several games that skip the platform. In addition, the Japanese games that are getting censored aren't on the Xbox One anyways.

Best case scenario, in my opinion, is that a significant amount of PS4 users switch over to the Switch or PC and buy their versions while the sales of the PS4 version tank.
That's why I said until gamers support it somewhere else the developers are kind of at their mercy.
 
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Funny how Sony hasn't addressed these concerns. Sure, it may be a different artistic style, context and/or presentation... but imagine if 2046: Read Only Memories, Dream Daddy, The Last of Us, Life is Strange or The Sims had their gay/lesbian content censored if the platform it was being released on had conservative Christians running it and opposed to such content. I'm sure that is a fair analogy in how you'd be upset too.
 
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Honestly, gaming is becoming too negative of thing for me now. I can't read any articles without the comments being full of angry people who support censorship and accuse people of vile, horrible things or people veering into right wing politics. I don't want to be sided with racists, homophobes and anti-Semites which seem to be all over sites like One Angry Gamer and Niche Gamer. I'm very uncomfortable with eroticism/fan service or even romance in art being tied to alt right views or having a political leaning at all.

Tolerance is in short supply these days, not many encourage artists anymore, not many support games, not many are even nice. What a disappointing time. It's an unrecognizable world to me now, if I was a teenager getting into art now I don't think I would find the support to continue, I bet I'd stop the first time someone told me to kill myself. I feel sorry for aspiring artists who were bullied out of continuing due to toxic internet culture and I consider myself lucky to have started just long enough before all this that I had support when people did tell me to die.

Hopefully this culture of tearing down everything you don't like is put to rest soon. Just had to rant since I consider myself pretty progressive and the sides are extreme when it comes to games, it's so disappointing not to have sites cover these issues that don't also attract alt right types. I truly despise that things like art and gaming have become political battlegrounds, especially in the "all or nothing" approach people have adopted that pits everyone against each other.
 
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Honestly, gaming is becoming too negative of thing for me now. I can't read any articles without the comments being full of angry people who support censorship and accuse people of vile, horrible things or people veering into right wing politics. I don't want to be sided with racists, homophobes and anti-Semites which seem to be all over sites like One Angry Gamer and Niche Gamer. I'm very uncomfortable with eroticism/fan service or even romance in art being tied to alt right views or having a political leaning at all.

Tolerance is in short supply these days, not many encourage artists anymore, not many support games, not many are even nice. What a disappointing time. It's an unrecognizable world to me now, if I was a teenager getting into art now I don't think I would find the support to continue, I bet I'd stop the first time someone told me to kill myself. I feel sorry for aspiring artists who were bullied out of continuing due to toxic internet culture and I consider myself lucky to have started just long enough before all this that I had support when people did tell me to die.

Hopefully this culture of tearing down everything you don't like is put to rest soon. Just had to rant since I consider myself pretty progressive and the sides are extreme when it comes to games, it's so disappointing not to have sites cover these issues that don't also attract alt right types. I truly despise that things like art and gaming have become political battlegrounds, especially in the "all or nothing" approach people have adopted that pits everyone against each other.
Yeah, gaming is much a bigger chore to deal with these days. Constantly having to deal with in-game politics, twitter bitching altering games, godawful monetization practices, etc. just saps my enthusiasm for engaging with the hobby most of the time.
 
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Honestly, gaming is becoming too negative of thing for me now. I can't read any articles without the comments being full of angry people who support censorship and accuse people of vile, horrible things or people veering into right wing politics. I don't want to be sided with racists, homophobes and anti-Semites which seem to be all over sites like One Angry Gamer and Niche Gamer. I'm very uncomfortable with eroticism/fan service or even romance in art being tied to alt right views or having a political leaning at all.

Tolerance is in short supply these days, not many encourage artists anymore, not many support games, not many are even nice. What a disappointing time. It's an unrecognizable world to me now, if I was a teenager getting into art now I don't think I would find the support to continue, I bet I'd stop the first time someone told me to kill myself. I feel sorry for aspiring artists who were bullied out of continuing due to toxic internet culture and I consider myself lucky to have started just long enough before all this that I had support when people did tell me to die.

Hopefully this culture of tearing down everything you don't like is put to rest soon. Just had to rant since I consider myself pretty progressive and the sides are extreme when it comes to games, it's so disappointing not to have sites cover these issues that don't also attract alt right types. I truly despise that things like art and gaming have become political battlegrounds, especially in the "all or nothing" approach people have adopted that pits everyone against each other.
Sadly that's how most forums are, full of negativity. It's also one of the reasons I don't play online unless they are on my friends list.

I feel sorry for developers now. Gamers are too entitled now and one wrong word and they are like vultures. That's why they are best not to say anything, and God forbid they add any Microtransactions even if they are just cosmetic.
 
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Why was Super Seducer banned then? It doesn’t fit the niche fan service category that they’ve been targeted recently.

Also everyone who is defending this, where do we say enough is enough? First this, then eventually it’ll affect mainstream games if Sony feels like they can get away with it. It always starts out small of left unchecked.

I am in no way condoning them censoring stuff with underage characters but we all know how different eastern anime art and western art are when it comes to age appearance. If they are of age, I don’t see an issue with not censoring. I don’t play these games, I probably will never buy them either, but censorship is bad if it’s not anything illegal(and even then it can be bad depending on the content and the outlet used to depict it, since it restricts freedom)

We have ESRB/PEGI/CERO for a reason.

lol @ those calling this porn.
 
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Sadly that's how most forums are, full of negativity. It's also one of the reasons I don't play online unless they are on my friends list.

I feel sorry for developers now. Gamers are too entitled now and one wrong word and they are like vultures. That's why they are best not to say anything, and God forbid they add any Microtransactions even if they are just cosmetic.
It doesn't seem to matter what side of anything you lean towards, there are entitled, bitter people ruining it for everyone. Other sides will pick up on those bitter people and paint everyone as bitter until every person is labelled bitter.

It isn't just gaming, I remember being appalled by the way that one fan artist was bullied to a suicide attempt over Steven Universe. I was able to see it since I post my art on the same sites, like Tumblr and Deviant Art. I became a target for Undertale fan art I drew later on. Seriously, I received well over a thousand hateful comments including quite a few colorful ways I should kill myself. I later found some of it was coordinated by some people on Tumblr. Others put my art into YouTube videos which further directed people to me. It got pretty bad.

All I can do is shake my head at people who think this behavior is acceptable. I'm pretty shocked the escalation has continued. I fully understand why game devs don't speak often on these matters. Look at the ire anyone who does draws. There's no right answer, if you side with anyone you will be eviscerated by the other entitled portions of other groups.

Unfortunately, censorship seems to be one of the tools people use to avoid having to deal with the irrational way so many people converse now. It's a conversation ender to most. I bet anything can be censored now. Except mircrotransactions. They make money so they must be defended at all costs!
 
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Everyone, just stop giving WouldYouKindly attention. Stop feeding him.

He will never get the point/hint that we don't like censorship within gaming entirely. It's more than just fanservice.

Your prediction is

wrong. They were paving the way for gaming under Madam President. When this didn't happen, and people told them "you also have a small degree of responsibility for what happened" they went "fuck you, we will double down" and that's where we are today. If a liberal progressive president gets elected after Trump, expect Japanese games, or any game with fanservice targeting white cis men, to be completely blacklisted from publishing.
Will never happen.
 
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This is getting a bit off topic but I don't think it is healthy to call gamers "entitled".

Gaming can be very different to other forms of entertainment.
Movies, books and music are all passive (am I using the right word?) forms of entertainment, you sit there and watch/read/listen. These forms of entertainment work really well when the original creative minds get to create what they want, many films have been ruined from studio interference. A bit of editing or some suggestions can go a long way but too much tampering is a bad thing.

Games on the other hand are interactive experiences. Yes, there are single player experiences that should be created by the creative leads, much like God of War. But when it comes to multiplayer based games, gameplay mechanics and even platforms that games are released on, the audience matters. The developers develop and they get play testers to make sure everything is ok. They don't generally live and breath their games like the fanbase. The fanbase is what makes an IP popular or a failure. If a company is going to organise conventions, they especially should respect their fans and listen to what they have to say.
If the developer/publisher disrespects their fan base or ignores what they are saying. They are heading in a crash course for disaster and failure. The recent Blizzard scenario could be the very beginning of Blizzards downfall, their audience could potentially be so angry at them that they just won't buy any more of their games. If Diablo 4 releases and the fans see a repeat of Diablo 3 and it's auction house (them being greedy and trying to nickle and dime their audience) their audience will definitely just walk away.

To bring this back around to Sony, their audience has been with them for over 20 years. They started off as a Japanese company and during the PS1 and PS2 years the consoles were dominated by Japanese games. They were the first company to treat their audience as "grown ups" and marketed towards an older audience. Dating sims being very Japanesy, naturally they became popular on the Playstation consoles and that audience grew on that line of consoles. Now here they are doing a complete 180 and treating their audience like a bunch of babies, treating them like they can't make their own decisions on what they can and can't handle. It is a huge slap in the face to the fanbase that they themselves helped foster.

This is an insanely different scenario but it would be like Nintendo announcing that they would never make another Mario/Metroid/Zelda/Smash Bros game ever again and that they would focus on FPS and dating sim games moving forward. Entirely different scenario yes but it would similarly be a massive slap in the face to the fanbase that they helped foster over the last 30+ years

Sorry for rambling on about nothing but calling gamers "entitled" is a bad thing. We as consumers have helped build these companies up, we live and breath their games. If they start doing things for corporate greed or stop acting like the company that we know and love, we should be standing up for ourselves and giving our opinions. There have been countless amazing development studios shut down by the big publishers because they are forced to make games for corporate greed. If we as consumers were able to voice our opinions earlier and especially if journalists were (I wish they fucking would) voicing their real opinions earlier, many of these development houses may have been saved. I guarantee that we could look at every developer closure by EA/MS and we as fans would know entirely why they were shut down. Most likely because the publisher went against the grain and made a game that the target audience wasn't interested in.
 
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This is getting a bit off topic but I don't think it is healthy to call gamers "entitled".

Gaming can be very different to other forms of entertainment.
Movies, books and music are all passive (am I using the right word?) forms of entertainment, you sit there and watch/read/listen. These forms of entertainment work really well when the original creative minds get to create what they want, many films have been ruined from studio interference. A bit of editing or some suggestions can go a long way but too much tampering is a bad thing.

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Now that I think about it when it comes to passive entertainment, look what happened with softcore and hardcore porn magazines, that except photos also included comics and text stories. They are a shadow of their former self, last good decade being the 90s. Add also many chains forbade selling of porn, especially hardcore.
We are talking now about a generation who does not understand the power of the word Playboy or Penthouse. This makes reactions to porn and fanservice even more frantic.