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PAL Charts - Week 47

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BishopLamont

Banned
spwolf said:
not really, what do you based your data on? If we check Italian numbers, where we have concrete data, difference between #1/#2 and #10 is Huge... and difference between 8-15 is minimal... Same goes with Japanese data as well. Top 2-3 games sell 3x-4x if not more from 10th game. There is no huge difference between 6th and 16th game (depends on the week of course).

Didnt we have japanese montly data per platform info which was very similar to what we saw in Swiss?

I think only conclusion when it comes to sales data is that without hard numbers, its all bullshit.
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How else do you explain PSP having 1 title in the top 30 and yet it's total sales are close to the Wii and PS3? Here's the explanation: All those games are selling very close to each other. All those markets you mentioned are much larger then Switzerland. You can't seriously be comparing the Japanese market to Switzlerand. :lol

If you're going to think "it's all bullshit", then why do you keep mentioning how many times LBP chart? Surely it means nothing if you think "it's all bullshit".
 
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Hammerhai

Member
Australia
(__) 01 PS2 Singstar Abba - S/W
(07) 02 Wii Wii Fit
(02) 03 Wii Wii Music
(01) 04 PC WOW Wrath of Lich King
(0 05 Wii Wii Play
(04) 06 PS3 Call of Duty: World at War
(05) 07 360 Gears Of War 2
(__) 08 Wii Mario Kart Wii
(03) 09 360 Call of Duty: World at War
(__) 10 PS2 Smackdown Vs Raw 2009


New Zealand
(__) 01 PS2 Singstar Abba - S/W
(01) 02 PC WOW Wrath of Lich King
(03) 03 PS2 Smackdown Vs Raw 2009
(02) 04 360 Gears Of War 2
(__) 05 PS2 Sing It Camp Rock Ps2 - S/W
(05) 06 PS3 Call of Duty: World at War
(04) 07 360 Call of Duty: World at War
(__) 08 PS2 Singstar Abba Bundle
(09) 09 360 Fable 2
(__) 10 PS2 Singstar Hottest Hits - S/W
 
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Psychotext

Member
It's so strange... as a Welshman when I think of New Zealand I think of massive rugby players. Somehow Singstar Abba being at the top of their charts doesn't really fit in with my image. :lol
 
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Hammerhai

Member
Norway (consoles)
(03) 01 Singstar Abba (Sony)
(01) 02 Call of Duty: World at War (Activision)
(__) 03 Need For Speed: Undercover (Electronic Arts)
(__) 04 Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision)
(02) 05 FIFA 09 (Electronic Arts)
(05) 06 Little Big Planet (Sony)
(04) 07 Gears of War 2 (Microsoft)
(07) 08 Mirror's Edge (Electronic Arts)
(06) 09 Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks)
(__) 10 Tomb Raider: Underworld (Eidos)
(__) 11 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon (Activision)
(09) 12 Lego Batman: The Video Game (Warner Brothers Interactive)
(08) 13 Quantum of Solace: The Game (Activision)
(12) 14 Crash Bandicoot: Mind over Mutant (Activision)
(16) 15 Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock (Activision)
(11) 16 Shaun White Snowboarding (Ubisoft)
(18) 17 Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
(19) 18 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith (Activision)
(10) 19 Far Cry 2 (Ubisoft)
(__) 20 Buzz: Quiz TV (Sony)
 
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[Nintex]

Member
I remember how we laughed at SEGA, their 'stupid' game that would be outsold by Galaxy tenfold and wouldn't even crack the top 10 because publishers didn't even bother to get the license for the Olympics because all the previous games bombed...

Now they've got a hit on their hands and they don't even have a sequel ready. Instead they've released a 'real' olympics game that did bomb on PS3/360 and they gave Sonic a sword

OH Sega....
 
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Graphics Horse

Member
[Nintex] said:
I remember how we laughed at SEGA, their 'stupid' game that would be outsold by Galaxy tenfold and wouldn't even crack the top 10 because publishers didn't even bother to get the license for the Olympics because all the previous games bombed...

Now they've got a hit on their hands and they don't even have a sequel ready. Instead they've released a 'real' olympics game that did bomb on PS3/360 and they gave Sonic a sword

OH Sega....
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Don't think the 'real' olympics game might have been in development when Mario & Sonic came out, or before?
And you're really expecting a 2009 Olympics sequel?! I'm sure the idea of a winter olympics version for 2010 will have crossed their minds.
 
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BishopLamont

Banned
Graphics Horse said:
Don't think the 'real' olympics game might have been in development when Mario & Sonic came out, or before?
And you're really expecting a 2009 Olympics sequel?! I'm sure the idea of a winter olympics version for 2010 will have crossed their minds.
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I think they were in dev at the same time because the real olympics game came out not soon after.
 
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spwolf

Member
BishopLamont said:
How else do you explain PSP having 1 title in the top 30 and yet it's total sales are close to the Wii and PS3? Here's the explanation: All those games are selling very close to each other. All those markets you mentioned are much larger then Switzerland. You can't seriously be comparing the Japanese market to Switzlerand. :lol

If you're going to think "it's all bullshit", then why do you keep mentioning how many times LBP chart? Surely it means nothing if you think "it's all bullshit".
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what I am comparing was that in Japanese market, overall software sales for the month/week or whatever was posted in last weeks thread was actually were similar to Swiss sales, in terms of how platforms are doing vs each other.

and yeah, it is still bullshit, no matter who mentions it...
 
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BishopLamont

Banned
spwolf said:
what I am comparing was that in Japanese market, overall software sales for the month/week or whatever was posted in last weeks thread was actually were similar to Swiss sales, in terms of how platforms are doing vs each other.

and yeah, it is still bullshit, no matter who mentions it...
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If by meaning similiar you mean "DS selling nearly the same as all the other platforms combined", then sure it is similiar.
 
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nli10

Member
Captain Smoker said:
Mario & Sonic LTD's, thx to MCV:

[WII] Mario & Sonic: 1.300.000
[NDS] Mario & Sonic: 460.000
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The DS sales look quite pathetic really! Sure it's one of the top 20 selling games for the system in the UK, but it seems to have not had the party appeal that the main version did. Maybe the delayed launch hurt it more than I thought. I'd expected that to become the 6th Double plat DS game and not Brain Academy (again with a superior Wii version but this time reversed fortunes).

Was this difference echoed in other territories?

Just looking Animal Crossing DS never hit 600k either. That's got to happen between now and Easter with the Wii version boost.
 
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dabra

Member
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France
Week 46, 2008


01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (__) [PS3] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
04 (06) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (04) [PS2] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
06 (03) [360] Gears Of War 2 (Microsoft)
07 (05) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
08 (__) [360] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
09 (07) [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
10 (__) [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
 
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marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
dabra said:
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France
Week 46, 2008


01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (__) [PS3] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
04 (06) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (04) [PS2] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
06 (03) [360] Gears Of War 2 (Microsoft)
07 (05) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
08 (__) [360] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
09 (07) [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
10 (__) [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
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Despite a HUGE advertising campaign and the arcade SKU sold at $175, x360 still seems to struggle vs the Wii ($317). I think France has become the new Nintendoland, out of all countries it is here they are the most successful.
 
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Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
marc^o^ said:
Despite a HUGE advertising campaign and the arcade SKU sold at $175, x360 still seems to struggle vs the Wii ($317). I think France has become the new Nintendoland, out of all countries it is here they are the most successful.
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You wouldn't know it looking at some French messageboards though, trust me.
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
Hardware LTDs for Spain
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/ElFi...cId=158807&docTipo=1&orderby=docid&sortby=ASC
Hasta octubre el parque de consolas de videojuegos de Sony era de 731 mil de PlayStation 3, 1.914.000 de PSP (portátil) y 4.838.000 de la PlayStation 2.
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PS2 - 4.838.000
PSP - 1.914.000
PS3 - 731.000

Its until October but it doesn't say if its taking Armstrong words, using Sony own figures or or just mentioning GfK figures. Its also coming from a mexican site and I can't see the same news in any spanish ones. Oh well, better than nothing I guess.
 
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Raist

Banned
Psychotext said:
I don't know how... but I completely missed "New Zealand" from my post. It had only been about half an hour since I got up, but still. :lol
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It's... haaaaa it's gone. Those clowns (haha) from AU GfK just replace the old chart by the new one every week, so there is no way to find those at least on their website. Unless checking a couple of random random VG forums to see if it was posted somewhere... which would be a pain. Forget it :p
 
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Psychotext

Member
I might try and find last week's because that would do the same thing (show the position from the week before). It is a pain though.
 
K

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
Link said:
You could say the same thing about here.
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Yes, but it's even worse in France. And I think the Nintendomination is even greater in France than it is in the US, because even on the software side, there's barely any concession made to the PS3 or the 360, as far as the top 10 is concerned.
 
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Raist

Banned
Psychotext said:
I might try and find last week's because that would do the same thing (show the position from the week before). It is a pain though.
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You mean here ? It wasn't posted IIRC. All I know is it was higher than #8 for week 45 because the .gif from GfK AU showed a decrease in LBP's rank in week 46.
 
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Spiegel

Member
Kilrogg said:
Yes, but it's even worse in France. And I think the Nintendomination is even greater in France than it is in the US, because even on the software side, there's barely any concession made to the PS3 or the 360, as far as the top 10 is concerned.
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What are you talking about?

The top Ten in France is usually something like this:

3x-4x Wii
2x-3x PS3
1x-2x PS2
1x-2x 360

- Week 47 top five
3x Wii
2x PS3

- Week 46

4x Wii
3x PS3
2x 360
1x PS2

- Week 45 top five
3x PS3
1x Wii
1x 360

- Week 42 top five
3x PS3
1x Wii
1x 360
 
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Michan

Member
marc^o^ said:
I think France has become the new Nintendoland, out of all countries it is here they are the most successful.
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Nintendo is doing well in France, but just as well (but in many cases worse) as they are in most other significant territories. Just look at the weekly UK and German charts. France is Europe's third (though a close third at that) biggest market, so if anything it is the UK and Germany that Nintendo is most successful.

Having lived in North America for the last two years and experienced the Wii/DS madness, then looking at Japan's charts, it's very possible that Nintendo considers itself "most successful" in one of those countries, too.

So basically, it's probably more like:
1. USA
2. Japan
3. UK
4. Germany
5. France

Edit: The latest charts to back this up:

France (latest)

01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (__) [PS3] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
04 (06) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (04) [PS2] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
06 (03) [360] Gears Of War 2 (Microsoft)
07 (05) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
08 (__) [360] Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
09 (07) [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
10 (__) [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
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USA (October NPD)

360 FABLE II MICROSOFT (CORP) Oct-08 1 790K
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 487K
360 FALLOUT 3 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS Oct-08 3 375K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 290K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 5 282K
360 SAINTS ROW 2 THQ (CORP) Oct-08 6 270K
PS3 SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS CONFRONTATION SONY (CORP) Oct-08 7 231K
PS3 LITTLE BIG PLANET SONY (CORP) Oct-08 8 215K
360 NBA 2K9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) Oct-08 9 202K
360 DEAD SPACE ELECTRONIC ARTS Oct-08 10 193K
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UK (last week's ChartTrack unit sales)

1 1 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
3 2 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
7 3 MARIO KART WII WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
9 4 WII FIT WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
10 5 DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
8 6 WII PLAY WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
11 7 WII MUSIC WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
4 8 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 PC SEGA SEGA
5 9 GEARS OF WAR 2 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
13 10 MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES WII SEGA SEGA
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Japan (last Friday's Media Create sales)

01. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) 305,180 / NEW
02. [NDS] Chrono Trigger DS (Square Enix) 270,868 / NEW
03. [PSP] Gundam vs. Gundam (Namco Bandai) 266,932 / NEW
04. [360] The Last Remnant (Square Enix) 101,543 / NEW
05. [NDS] Soccer Tsuku DS: Touch & Direct (SEGA) 71,661 / NEW
06. [NDS] Hoshi no Kirby: Ultra Super Deluxe (Nintendo) 55,470 / 418,000
07. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion Girls Mode (Nintendo) 25,275 / 209,000
08. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 24,731 / 1,184,000
09. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon) 24,173 / 1,941,000
10. [PS3] Way of the Samurai 3 (Spike) 19,641 / 100,000
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king zell

Member
- Nintendo makes $6 on every Wii sold, Microsoft breaks even with 360, and Sony loses money on PS3
- 60% of Wii games sold are first party, 30% of 360 games are first party, and 15% of PS3 games are first party
- Wii owners are expected to purchase 220 million units of software this year, 125 million for 360 owners, 120 million for PS3 owners
- Nintendo’s gross margin on game software is 65%, Sony gets 60%, Microsoft gets 50%
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http://www.mcvuk.com/news/32535/Nintendo-Makes-6-From-Every-Wii-Sold
 
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Jammy

Banned
France is usually much more Nintendo-heavy than it is now. A month of big holiday releases for 360/PS3 only makes things more even. Then it's back to more of the same Wii/DS domination for 11 months of the next year.
 
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CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
UK Charts Week 48:

3 1 MARIO KART WII WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
1 2 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
5 3 DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
6 4 WII PLAY WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
2 5 CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
- 6 RESISTANCE 2 PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
7 7 WII MUSIC WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
4 8 WII FIT WII NINTENDO NINTENDO
13 9 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERCOVER XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
12 10 NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERCOVER PS3 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
9 11 GEARS OF WAR 2 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
20 12 BIG BRAIN ACADEMY DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
15 13 FIFA 09 XB360 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
8 14 FOOTBALL MANAGER 2009 PC SEGA SEGA
17 15 LEGO INDIANA JONES: ORIGINAL ADVENTURES XB360 LUCASARTS LUCASARTS
18 16 KUNG FU PANDA XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
22 17 MORE BRAIN TRAINING FROM DR KAWASHIMA DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
26 18 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2009 XB360 KONAMI KONAMI
24 19 CARNIVAL: FUNFAIR GAMES WII 2KPLAY TAKE 2
32 20 PROJECT GOTHAM RACING 4 XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
10 21 MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES WII SEGA SEGA
35 22 NINTENDOGS: LAB & FRIENDS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
21 23 FIFA 09 PS3 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
38 24 SEGA SUPERSTARS TENNIS XB360 SEGA SEGA
28 25 TOMB RAIDER: UNDERWORLD XB360 EIDOS EIDOS
14 26 TOMB RAIDER: UNDERWORLD PS3 EIDOS EIDOS
- 27 GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS: THE VIDEOGAME WII WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE
19 28 LITTLEBIGPLANET PS3 SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
40 29 FALLOUT 3 XB360 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS BETHESDA SOFTWORKS
- 30 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3: SENIOR YEAR DS DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
33 31 FABLE II XB360 MICROSOFT MICROSOFT
23 32 GUITAR HERO: WORLD TOUR WII REDOCTANE ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
11 33 PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE CURIOUS VILLAGE DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
- 34 RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS TV PARTY WII UBISOFT UBISOFT
34 35 MARIO KART DS DS NINTENDO NINTENDO
29 36 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2009 PS3 KONAMI KONAMI
27 37 GUITAR HERO: WORLD TOUR XB360 REDOCTANE ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
16 38 LEFT 4 DEAD XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
25 39 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3: SENIOR YEAR DANCE WII DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
- 40 MYSIMS KINGDOM DS EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
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FrankT

Member
Luckyman said:
COD has a shot being bigger than Gears 2 on 360?
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Quite possibly in the UK. WW, doubt it. Until we have NPD for both Nov and Dec that would hard to say. Actually just going by the data we have on mygamercard to date WW would be near impossible.

Oh yea, funny guy that analyst above heh.
 
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Sho_Nuff82

Member
Luckyman said:
COD has a shot being bigger than Gears 2 on 360?
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I don't know what Epic was thinking, Fenix and company sent to die it seems.

Having played a small part in the COD5 beta, I can't really see what all the insanity is about (it plays almost exactly like COD3 for me, which I wasn't a huge fan of either, but with a lower player count), but it really looks like COD4's legacy is going to carry this game to insane numbers, much like GH2 -> GH3.
 
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