The question is how. The USA can't threaten them to pull funding, Israel knows that the USA needs them there. They also constantly pull the anti semnite card when they get critized. You should see how the Central Council of Jews jumps on everyone's backs as soon as Israel becomes public discussion in Germany.
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Palestinian toddler killed in 'Jewish settler' arson attack
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Aurelius
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Ok. So according to you Netanyahu is encouraging more Palestinian children to be burned alive and his endgoal is the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian? And here I though he was just a conservative politcian! Must be very comforting to have such simple, black and white view of a very complicated problem.
Not sure about the burning part, but he definitly works towars One Israel for jews by jews and with all muslims away or as Unterklasse.
Israel is a daily reminder that you can get away with anything you want as long as you have the money and power ( like we need something like that)
RIP poor child
The big difference here is those colonisations happened quite a time ago and a suppositely civilized nation should be doing things like that right now. Time have changed. If they started owning slaves now would you just say "Well you did it too"
He's doing nothing to stop the settlement, which shows that he clearly doesn't care.
RIP poor child
The big difference here is those colonisations happened quite a time ago and a suppositely civilized nation should be doing things like that right now. Time have changed. If they started owning slaves now would you just say "Well you did it too"
He's doing nothing to stop the settlement, which shows that he clearly doesn't care.
I'm not sure you understand what ethnic cleansing is. The continued illegal expansion into the West Bank, displacing anyone living on the property, is blatant ethnic cleansing.
And yes, he's a very conservative politician. And just like a lot of very conservative politicians, he's a colossal asshole who shouldn't be in power.
what you call innocent, I call them people guilty of allowing this to happen. These people elect these right wing nutjobs and the majority are happy with the status quo.
The same people who pull out a sofa to watch bombs drop on their neighbours.
ironkrylon
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To be honest though.. considering Israel's company in the region. I'd be out there enjoying the show with a bowl of popcorn as well.
This whole "we're above this.." shit needs to be deaded. Quick.
Miles Quaritch
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This is a rather one sided view. What about the innocents who are forced from their homes to make way for these 'innocents'?
We shouldn't force one group of 'innocents' but should leave the other innocents to deal with it?
Principate
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The big difference now is that we invade countries for their oil on pretences of weapons of mass destruction. Shit hasn't changed that significantly, all you have to do is look at the wars between Western countries and also those not in the west for past 50 years. Hell we even have an expansionist leader in the making taking advantage neighbouring countries pacifism (ring a bell).
We all like to pretend significant war crimes, expansionist ideologies, and ethnic cleansing are beyond us, in our new progressive times, but the reality of global affairs paint a very different picture.
Discotheque
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you'd be enjoying the bombing of civilians with a bowl of popcorn...
..interesting. to be honest you suck ass breh.
No.
At the very least, it's nice of you to say what a lot of other people are thinking and fantasizing about.
Norwegian Rudo
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Yaphett Kotto
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Lmao so because other countries were dicks in the past, it's okay to do airstrikes and gun down civilians.
What a fucked up individual you are.
At least you tell us how you feel and not beat around the bush.
I was not expecting to see someone seriously fantasizing about genocide.
Oh, don't worry.. I know exactly the type of people we're dealing with . The various one state solution, two state solution, BDS movements, "I'm just anti-zionist! honest!" - It would just be very nice if they were all as brave as you and said it outright instead of hiding behind words and ideas
fawaz stop. Without a doubt there are a lot of people who dislike what Israel does. Hell, a lot of people in the west are really disgusted about the state of Israel. But don't push it so far. Israelis are people, even if they follow a terrorists doctrine at the moment. As a german I can only say: we all make mistakes in trusting our government. Although I think the founding of Israel was a mistake, it can't be just undone. But this country has to stop the masscres and the ethnic cleansing, it has to stick in it's own borders and give the palestinians back their human rights. While they're at it make it a state of israelis, not of jews.
Expect innocent Palestinians get thrown in jail without a trial or any due process while Israelis who kill innocent Palestinians aren't even charged so I fail to see how you can make such a claim.
Not sure you're educated at all tbh.
Nikodemos
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Didn't their Supreme Court basically forbid that recently?
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Can't seem to find anything and haven't heard anything. But I could just searching wrong. Got a source?
Shuggananas
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Well I mean he already brainwashed you before so hey
metalslimer
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As much as I dislike israel's government right now some of the rhetoric here is pretty terrible.
What's his GAF name?
TheHeretic
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This thread is just proof you can get away with the most astonishing venom and vitriol towards Israel on this forum, its shameful. The country exists because the entirety of Europe tried to destroy the jewish people - something that is firing back up again, by the way. Perhaps if Europeans weren't so hellbent on putting jews in ovens they wouldn't need their own country.
Countries around the world behave far worse than Israel and get nowhere near as much scrutiny. Its easy to judge from a distance, just about every country on earth has behaved far worse in the course of wars than Israel has.
Baki
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Lol. Are you sure about that? If the situation was reversed, Israel would launch an offensive which would result in civilian casualties - or 'collateral damage' as the IDF would classify it.
What a disgusting and racist regime. Makes my stomach turn knowing our tax dollars in the West support this regime directly with financial and military support.
Shuggananas
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Think you need a history lesson
"but these guys are worse"
yeah ok, that's a great line of defense
TheHeretic
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Name a country in remotely similar circumstances that has behaved better, since your history is so sharp.
KurtSloane
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The entirety of Europe? ....laughable nonsense.
Secondly, Israel gets shit because it deserves it, also Palestinians and their children never stuck Jews in ovens as you put it.
Destroying a people and stealing their land and that's your excuse? Lame.
Burning toddlers in their homes is no fucking war.
DXB-KNIGHT
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This is really heart breaking.
Well then
This articles say exactly the opposite what you said. The court rejected the notion of israeli because it would undermine the "jewishness". Israel is still a state for jews from jews and everyone else is lesser.
Oh wow. Talk about generalisation.
I've always supported the rights of palestinians but people like you make me sick. You're pretty much calling for a genocide. I can't believe I'm reading this here on Neogaf.
Look at yourself in the mirror next time. I bet you're not half as angry with ISIS. Get your priorities straight. I know all the hate is concentrated on Israel in Arab countries because it's an easy target. Politicians have milked that shit as much as they could.
As for the killing of a toddler, no surprise. Hamas kills randomly and their fans rejoice, Jewish settlers kill children and their supporters rejoice, and the circle of hate continues. And Netanyahu can go suck a dick.
LOL.
It's not an isolated event. my experience as a catholic i.e. twenty plus years of Catholicism. Whatever the circumstances are, Israel is doing it wrong. Maybe they have the wrong PR guys. How can a country have a reputation so bad in the far east?
Mr. Giggles
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Wtf, if Israel has garnered ire it was when it started taking land that didn't belong to it
The way it treats the Palestinians is also contributing to that hate
And we're doing it again apparently!
Shuggananas
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Because they've been doing horrible things for decades ?
But hey it's better to blame it on anti-semitism I guess
Baffling to realize some posters in here justify war like it's a necessary thing to achieve a validation of their political views.
Terrorism, war, bombings and a dead toddler are not tools to achieve anything good, whatever side is doing them.
The Palestinians and Israelis do not deserve all this shit, don't downplay the outcome of this atrocities based on your pov, be more human.
Terrorism, war, bombings and a dead toddler are not tools to achieve anything good, whatever side is doing them.
The Palestinians and Israelis do not deserve all this shit, don't downplay the outcome of this atrocities based on your pov, be more human.
I agree with you that people in this thread are getting away with hate speech which shouldn't be the case and I agree that there are countries who are clearly more dangerous than Israel but it doesn't change the fact that palestinians have been abused for decades and nothing has changed. The difference between Israel and other countries who " behave " badly is that Israel get the support of every western nation and they keep selling themselves as the beacon of light in the middle east, and keep using this kind of semantics to get support for all over the world from people who simply hate arabs/muslims. Look at who supports Israel the most in the US ? Hateful right-wing loonies.
I think like you that the jews deserved their own country. I'm glad they have theirs now, but just maybe they should have gotten one in Europe, don't you think ? I'm French and I really believe our european countries, who are responsible of the genocide, should have lost part of their lands to create a jewish state. But zionism was already a thing, and jewish settlers were already settling the holy land way before WWII. The genocide only made the process more quick. Anyways this discussion is useless, now Israel is a real thing and they're not going anywhere, So this kind of debate about the legitimacy of Israel is useless and borderline suspicious. Israelis and palestinians both deserve to live in peace. So yeah cut the inflamatory rhetoric people and stop the israel bashing. I'm a big critic of their policies and of their successive governments, if you're advocating for the destruction of a country, you're a psychopath you need help.
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