There's no way they support Destiny for 10 years. Maybe the BRAND, but the game they're shipping this fall? Nope.
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Peter Dinklage in Bungie's Destiny - That wizard came from the moon
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There's no way they support Destiny for 10 years. Maybe the BRAND, but the game they're shipping this fall? Nope.
TheOctodad
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I feel like it's bad because of a combination of acting/directing and just terrible dialogue.
I mean how do you say "if you see anything floating, kill it" well?
Bungie has always had this problem a little bit. Remember "Where are we going sir?" "To war!" Lol.
I mean how do you say "if you see anything floating, kill it" well?
Bungie has always had this problem a little bit. Remember "Where are we going sir?" "To war!" Lol.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
haha
Windom Earle
Banned
I'm sure Bungie paid him thousands for that performance. Can't be too happy with the feedback. And yes, it's BAD.
publicpwnerer
Member
I'm pretty sure Charles Dance ordering a Latte would still be phenomenal. So commanding and regal.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Pretty sure he is.
A trainer in the tower sounds exactly like him.
Jest Chillin
Member
What does an AI sound like?
Seriously there is no precedent for what an average AI sounds like. Only various ideas of execution (most using filters). They didn't use a filter here. It's fine. I feel like the the negative reaction to his voice is really just silly expectations.
They could use a filter, sure. But there's nothing wrong with not using one. Brent Spiner didn't have a filter on his voice for his depiction of Data and no one ever complained about him sounding bored, rather than robotic. That was likely due to the fact that he was in front of a camera and visible to the audience, so his physical acting contributed to it but it's not objectively ineffective even without physical acting to help it out.
Yeah, hilariously terrible. Love that hyperbole.
Clearly this is the direction Bungie wants from the character or they would have changed it.
People hate on it for no reason other than being Bungie. It's a goddamn AI with a monotonous voice, but since it's Bungie and a high profile actor, it's automatically shit, even though it's obviously supposed to be like that. AI and soulless voice is so normal in games I dont get it why it's a problem now.
Not all audio books are like that, listen to anything by Stephen fry, George guidel, Jim dale
Anyway, I think the voice is fine, as well as the pvp
Gold_Loot
Member
You said it better than I did. It's sort of a soothing mellow atmospheric tone.
I don't know, maybe a robotic filter would make people more comfortable with the performance.
Nah
I would bet my left nut many of the people posting in this thread are fans of Halo/Bungie.
There's a difference between soulless and uninterested, sadly. I feel his performance leans towards the latter more often than not. There are moments where he's bringing something interesting to the role, but ultimately? He sounds bored.
Colonel Nasty
Member
there's a wizard here....
AI is not called Joyeuse? Some guy at bungie.net thought next AI could be named Joyeuse.
Durandal is name of AI in Marathon games.
"My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeuse
Durandal is name of AI in Marathon games.
"My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeuse
LordOfChaos
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I thought he sounded disinterested much of the time, almost like a rehearsal script. Not terrible, especially not if this is first voice acting bit, but he's no Jen Taylor.
When he mentions flying wizards he sounds like he's thinking "What is this shit?"
When he mentions flying wizards he sounds like he's thinking "What is this shit?"
The Xtortionist
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I don't know what he is. His musings about the state of the world pre-Collapse seem out of place for a purely informational AI. As do his lines delivered in a less-monotone way, like "...It's the Hive!". If he was meant to be an emotionless information delivery machine, the line should have read something like "Hive detected. Be on guard.". The wizard line should have been something like "Detecting Hive wizard. Evidence suggests that moon containment measures have been compromised.", or something. But they're written with more flavor than that, which is unnecessary for that type of AI.
I agree. All the voiceover from him in the Alpha is very flat. That might be the intent though - something closer to SHODAN than Cortana.
That raises the question as to why you'd you cast a known actor. Maybe you meet the human form as well, like Halsey in Halo Reach.
That raises the question as to why you'd you cast a known actor. Maybe you meet the human form as well, like Halsey in Halo Reach.
dreamstation
Member
Average. He sounds extremely bored or something. It's not the worst voice I've heard in a game but it certainly doesn't suit the role.
Twilight Gap
Member
Now that's something they're good at.
A Serious Man
Member
I think it's fine. He's playing a robot and and his tone really matches the more relaxed, chill nature of the soundtrack and the open world exploration.
Joe T.
Member
I haven't played the alpha, just watched some footage as well as the trailers, but this was my impression, too. I think it's an unfortunate situation of pairing a great actor with a lifeless script and maybe a lack of direction, or just asking him to play a more monotone AI voice which would be equally criminal. His delivery sounds average at best.
Just watched some videos of this (haven't played the game). He sounds pretty bad/out of place. No enthusiasm at all. Even if he's meant to be a robot or something it's not good.
But it seems like more of a case of bad casting. Should have gotten someone like Nolan North or something instead, somebody who can do different voices convincingly. Seems like they just hired Dinklage because he's a somewhat big name right now due to GoT.
But it seems like more of a case of bad casting. Should have gotten someone like Nolan North or something instead, somebody who can do different voices convincingly. Seems like they just hired Dinklage because he's a somewhat big name right now due to GoT.
Dinklage is awesome, but yeah both him are the studio are simply cashing on his fame and it shows. Now, this is how you use a Game of Thrones fan favorite actor.
I feel like it's reasonable to ask, given your response: Have you had a chance to play the alpha yourself? The script for this AI regularly has him expressing emotion, even fairly base emotion like fear and dread.
In sci-fi terms, this entity doesn't make sense with the performance it's been given. The purpose of an AI having any human aspects is so that it can socialize with people. The idea of technology perfectly capable of mimicking human voice for an AI this advanced but have it vocalize with such unnecessarily awkward, unnatural intonation that it would undermine any connection with a living operator is preposterous. It's the equivalent of an Uncanny Valley for vocalization. Considering the state of modern automated voice intonation without the technology of the Destiny universe, this performance (in its current form, at least) comes off little better than ending every sentence with "bleep bloop, I am a robot."
Would you mind pointing out the people making those particular assertions?
SPACECADET
Member
doesn't bother me. but it's definitely not a very memorable voice that is going to become iconic for the game.
i doubt bungie would change any of it though, they obviously dug it and it is an actor with a bigger name.
i doubt bungie would change any of it though, they obviously dug it and it is an actor with a bigger name.
Delta Assault
Member
Exactly. If he's supposed to be a robotic, emotionless AI, then go with that and give him lines of dialogue that reflect that. If he's supposed to be more of a higher form, more natural AI, then do a Cortana and have the actor give an expressive, natural performance. Don't just try and sit on the fence and confuse the player with something that doesn't know what it wants to be. Don't try and give him lines like "It's the Hive!" and "Alright, this time... we go wherever we want!" and then defend the flat stilted delivery by claiming he's just supposed to be an emotionless robot. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
TrebuchetGames
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Okay... now I know he's playing an AI character it makes a lot more sense, perhaps i missed that bit in the game?
I do think there are one or two poorly written lines that don't help the cause, but overall i don't mind it.
I do think there are one or two poorly written lines that don't help the cause, but overall i don't mind it.
HoodWinked
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Why would they spend the money to hire Dinklage if it's just supposed to be a "goddamn AI with a monotonous voice"? You could get anyone around the office to do that for free. They obviously thought Dinklage would bring something other than that, and he didn't.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
They say opinions can't be wrong, and yet here we are...
Right now it does feel off. I'd say it's average. It's off-putting at first, but you get used to it rather quickly. I think it'll be tuned up by the time the final game ships though.
The crucible announcer on the other hand....completely awful. What were they thinking with that one?
The crucible announcer on the other hand....completely awful. What were they thinking with that one?