Ill show guys when im back in an interweb zone.
I can do it pretty clutch.
And yeah, its probably the hardest thing to do in the game if you are new to fighters.
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Ill show guys when im back in an interweb zone.
I can do it pretty clutch.
And yeah, its probably the hardest thing to do in the game if you are new to fighters.
Also, can you confirm if he's easier to use due to the patch?
Well, I'm not actually new to fighters, just PS All-Stars heh.
Thanks.
Should be no problem then, it is difficult to explain on paper though haha
EsotericManiac
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The 2 top teams from SCR were using heavenly sword girl (sorry don't know her name) & Kratos and the other team was Sackboy and heavenly sword girl.
Team with Sackboy won from losers bracket
Team with Sackboy won from losers bracket
Ratchet and Drake are my go tos...easy combos and fun lvl1s...dan is also a good place to start with really simple combos, but his lvl 1 takes some real skill
Dante's "Empty" Bold Cancel takes advantage of his ability to cancel his square moves into his triangle moves into circle moves, combined with the ability of his Angel Dash (side circle) to cancel into a square or circle move. It allows him to effectively instantly recover from moves with otherwise long cooldown - namely his square moves. The catch is that it only works if the move connects: you can't cancel a square move on whiff or block (as far as I know).
There are several methods of performing the Empty Cancel, but they all involve canceling Dante's up triangle attack into his Angel Dash just above the ground. Some examples are:
Up triangle -> back circle -> square
Up triangle -> back circle -> circle
Up-back triangle -> forward circle -> square
Up-back triangle -> forward circle -> circle
If done correctly, Dante will perform the moves in rapid succession just above the ground, landing in a neutral position.
Here's a great Empty Cancel tutorial.
The trick to the up triangle is to do it the opposite direction your facing.
If you are facing right:
Up diagonal left triagle is the input you want to hit. Otherwise you have to do the empty cancel twice to get back to the right direction you want to face.
Which is explained in the vid
EsotericManiac
Member
A buddy of mine recommended Drake because I play Guile in Street Fighter (basic keep away)
After I did his combo tutorial, I didn't like that one of his easier combos, slide to pistol, only seemed to connect when slide was executed from max range. He would slide under the opponent and if I compensated with the gun input, he'd still miss.
Kind of a turn off for the character.
Quick question though, how "good" are those combo tutorials for learning basic BnBs for a specific character. I understand they just give you a feel of the character, but how good are they? Should I just be looking at youtube for optimized ones?
Napalm_Frank
Member
Combo tutorials are pretty terrible TBH.
If you wanna have some games in 2vs2 hit me in PSN. Napalmfrank is the nick. Same for everyone :3.
Oh, I'm aware of that.
I was just trying to explain the general inputs for the cancel itself. Some people actually prefer starting it with up triangle and turning around after the cancel (at least if internet comments are to be believed).
Doing it in the opposite direction has its uses though, like allowing you to rapidly retreat or set up a down circle -> level 1.
EDIT:
Yeah, youtube is a better resource for combos, but the combo tutorials can help you learn the properties of certain moves.
They give you a basic example of the kinds of combos you should be doing, but they leave the best ones for you to discover for yourself (or more likely, look up on Youtube.)
For example, the best PaRappa combo shown in the tutorial is this:
Up square (hold) > circle > square x2
But in a real match, the combo you should be pulling off is this:
Side circle > circle > square > down square > up square (hold) > circle > square x2
So they're really just starters for you to figure things out.
...my god.
I mean, it's still difficult to set up without getting hit by like, half the cast, but it exists and that's what matters. Love seeing people explore all the characters.
Napalm_Frank
Member
You hit the treshold without using neutral square in the ground.
True, but when you add the extra neutral square before the down square, you get 140 AP instead of 135.
EsotericManiac
Member
Thanks for the comments. I figured it was that way with the combos based on my experiences with other fighting games.
I haven't gravitated to online yet as I have yet to pick an actual character at this point. I generally like to get basis bread n butter combos down and punishes and learn most of the matchups, safe and unsafe things, etc with online play.
I'm sure I'll take you up on your offer Napalm_Frank, but I just don't feel ready yet at this point.
I haven't gravitated to online yet as I have yet to pick an actual character at this point. I generally like to get basis bread n butter combos down and punishes and learn most of the matchups, safe and unsafe things, etc with online play.
I'm sure I'll take you up on your offer Napalm_Frank, but I just don't feel ready yet at this point.
Also discovered another change, from what I can tell Sir Dan's green hand and Level 2 glitches no longer work. Heihachi's 3x AP glitch is still present though.
IIRC Superbot said they asked the Hot Shots guys if they could use their IP and they said it was best suited for a stage rather than a character, hence the mashup with Sandover.
IIRC Superbot said they asked the Hot Shots guys if they could use their IP and they said it was best suited for a stage rather than a character, hence the mashup with Sandover.
I thought I would hate BlackRock stadium, but I really have grown to like it. It's a very Jak friendly stage. Dreamscape has also grown on me, but it is not a super-friendly stage at all.
The stage that I truly despise is Time Station. With hazards on, it is downright frustrating at times. The platforms are so inconveniently placed and it becomes a test of patience moreso than platforming.
I only really dislike Franzea on the Vita, because I can't see a darn thing.
Ya, i also wish the camera would follow you up higher lol, not that i need to see my character in order to complete a combo, but com'on
Just warming up son!
Takin advantage of teh noobz
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's okay patch, but I am coming back for sure. I can't wait for people to dig around in 300MB patch and see if they find the list of DLC characters there.
It's okay patch, but I am coming back for sure. I can't wait for people to dig around in 300MB patch and see if they find the list of DLC characters there.
Rumba is going get them
also they patch for Vita too! :]
This was posted yesterday but it's alright.
I finally finished a review so now I should have time for some PS All-Stars!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Rumba is going get them
also they patch for Vita too! :]
Who is Rumba? Is he one that found rest of characters from Demo long time ago?
cool_trainer
Member
He was the one pulling sounds and background music from the beta and posting them on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/user/therumbalumba
Also put up teaser videos like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMIbBWJNs2Q
Official patch notes! Though they're not much different than the message you get from patching on the Vita, save some specifics regarding Kratos' f+Square.
http://superbotent.tumblr.com/
Also, will have some SCR finals footage soon for everyone. It was pretty sick! :O
http://superbotent.tumblr.com/
Also, will have some SCR finals footage soon for everyone. It was pretty sick! :O
cool_trainer
Member
Hey, when will PSASBR come back to WNF?
Nice. I missed the finals on the stream by a few minutes.
I would actually love to watch the finals.
JStein0222
Member
Might bite for the Spike one haha
I can't get most Good Cole's combos at all.
I like playing as him, I can do relatively well with him, but I just can't combo with him.
At least when it comes to combos involving his down circle.
Also, I've discovered a cosmetic glitch where Kratos's DLC costume (Deimos or whatever) causes him to lose his Level 3 aura in Practice mode after he uses it (uses Vita version).
No idea if it happened pre-patch:
Finally, Heihachi Stock FFA dominance:
I like playing as him, I can do relatively well with him, but I just can't combo with him.
At least when it comes to combos involving his down circle.
Also, I've discovered a cosmetic glitch where Kratos's DLC costume (Deimos or whatever) causes him to lose his Level 3 aura in Practice mode after he uses it (uses Vita version).
No idea if it happened pre-patch:
Finally, Heihachi Stock FFA dominance:
EsotericManiac
Member
I'm starting to lean towards Heihachi myself. Is it possible to do up grab -> dash punch -> dash punch -> double upcut?
Not in my experience.
Even if you do two Electric Wind God Fists when Kratos gets as low to the ground as you can, the final hit of the double uppercut will whiff. Unless I'm off by a frame or two.
EDIT: Ah sorry. I use Kraots to refer to medium sized characters.
EsotericManiac
Member
Wait, so you're talking about after the grab in your example? If so, I've also noticed the second hit of the double uppercut whiff. Leads me to believe I should doing a different combo after the double EGFs. Maybe double spin kick to triangle?
That works, but I believe ending it with down triangle will give you 10 more AP. Plus they'll get grounded, so you might be able to bait out a roll and get a nice combo/kill out of it.