yurinka
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Tiago Rodrigues
it would be nice to include this in the OP, from page 29:
From now until FY25 Sony will increase their investment on PS5 GaaS, but not at the expenses of traditional PS5 games. They will also increase their investment on traditional PS5 games.
These $26.2M have been generated in the first 2 months and a half (will sell way more) by a port of a 4 years old game. Nothing to laugh at, are impressive numbers. These 3 ports generated $100M until March, you can fund the development of a nice game with that. And with $300M a big ass AAA.
The 300M means GoW only did a portion of its sales in the previous FY so will continue selling (like the previous two), plus they'll release U4+ULL and very likely TLOU2DC (which I assume will include the TLOU1 remake too).
I think these numbers are impressive and promising. To port old hits to PC seems to provide them a good chunk of revenue for a little cost, so I understand they'll keep porting more stuff.
1. MLB 22
2. MLB 23
3. MLB 24
4. MLB 25
5. Gran Turismo 7
6. Factions
7. Bungie new IP 1
8. Bungie new IP 2
9. Haven game
10. Deviation game
11. Firewalk game
11. Guerrilla MP game
12. Firesprite MP game
Bonus track (they may not exist, may not be GaaS or even a MP focused game, or not ready for before 2026):
13. Helldivers 2
14. London Studios game
15. Insomniac game featuring MP
16. Sucker Punch game featuring MP
17. Bend new IP
18. PS Home 2
19. Crypto MetaKnackVerse VR
TLOU1+2 DC would be a bundle of TLOU remastered and TLOU2 on PS4, and would include TLOU1 remake and TLOU2 PS5 on PS5.
From now until FY25 Sony will increase their investment on PS5 GaaS, but not at the expenses of traditional PS5 games. They will also increase their investment on traditional PS5 games.
Notice that they never said day one PC games, and the chart mentioning the percent of games planned to be released on each platform has a PS4+PS5 group but not a PS5+PC group, very likely meaning that they will continue releasing on PC ports or remasters of old games.
lol at $26.2 million. All this for $26 million. Remember, they made $25 billion last year from their console business.
And $300 million next year means every single game is coming to PC and most probably on day one. Pretty sure I was called chicken little here when i called this 2 years ago. This was always the end game.
I'd say some apologies are in order, but i know im still not gonna get any.
These $26.2M have been generated in the first 2 months and a half (will sell way more) by a port of a 4 years old game. Nothing to laugh at, are impressive numbers. These 3 ports generated $100M until March, you can fund the development of a nice game with that. And with $300M a big ass AAA.
The 300M means GoW only did a portion of its sales in the previous FY so will continue selling (like the previous two), plus they'll release U4+ULL and very likely TLOU2DC (which I assume will include the TLOU1 remake too).
Well, GoW sold 20M on PS and 1M on PC because the PC version is also a full priced 4 years old port and only has the sales of the first 2 and a half month and after has been being sold in console during 4 years, heavily discounted and even included in the game subs, so a ton of people interested on it already owns the game. And sold that in a market (PC) where sales are mostly done when discounted. I think it will sell more this FY once it gets a big discount than in the previous one.Correct, which is why sales is different.
I think these numbers are impressive and promising. To port old hits to PC seems to provide them a good chunk of revenue for a little cost, so I understand they'll keep porting more stuff.
Pretty much confirmed to be released before 2026:12 live service games?
1. MLB
2. Factions
3. Haven game
4. Deviation Game
5. GG's shooter (by ex-Rainbow Six Siege director)
6. Firewalk game
7. Firesprite game
8-12: ??
1. MLB 22
2. MLB 23
3. MLB 24
4. MLB 25
5. Gran Turismo 7
6. Factions
7. Bungie new IP 1
8. Bungie new IP 2
9. Haven game
10. Deviation game
11. Firewalk game
11. Guerrilla MP game
12. Firesprite MP game
Bonus track (they may not exist, may not be GaaS or even a MP focused game, or not ready for before 2026):
13. Helldivers 2
14. London Studios game
15. Insomniac game featuring MP
16. Sucker Punch game featuring MP
17. Bend new IP
18. PS Home 2
19. Crypto MetaKnackVerse VR
The director of the TLOU tv show said they plan to release it early next year. In this case, I'd release TLOU1+2 DC and Factions on PS4 and PS5 in November and half a year later on PC.But that game might get delayed to 2023 to coincide with the show.
TLOU1+2 DC would be a bundle of TLOU remastered and TLOU2 on PS4, and would include TLOU1 remake and TLOU2 PS5 on PS5.
They plan to release "at least one" new Bungie IP before 2025. Future Bungie games will be GaaS and will release day one on PC.They are releasing Factions and TLOU Remake day one on PC and PS5. Watch that happening.
edit: Actually Jim said the PC growth forecast is connected to the 2 live service games strategy...so the 2 unannounced live service games will be day one on PS5 AND PC. It's basically confirmed now. Factions and...something else.
The $80 figure includes $26 from GoW, that only has there for two months and a half so pretty likely will sell more this year. Add pretty likely TLOU remake+TLOU2, plus extra Horizon and Days Gone sales. Then maybe Spider-Man+Spider-Man Miles Morales too, in order to release it some months before the PS5 only release of Spider-Man 2.How in the hell are they going to get to 300M in 2022?
They will probably need to unleash all kinds of PS4 games and PS5 games on PC for that to happen. I'm talking stuff like Spiderman, Horizon: FW, Gran Turismo, The Last of Us, etc...
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