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Polygon: "What Nintendo has learned from Kickstarter"
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Aquamarine
Member
The article has the main comparison as direct interaction with the audience and a more personal style of communication. Which isn't necessarily incorrect.
grimshawish
Banned
What? Kohler did mean vapourware.
Kohler in the comments:
Kohler in the comments:
Silver_DNA
Member
Sony had a patent on it years ago but never did anything with it.
WTF? And then he defends it in the comments. I honestly wish I could take back the hit I just gave them. Can you be charged for killing brain cells? Because he deserves life for the mass murder he's just caused.
Aquamarine
Member
Microsoft perfected the art of announcing games and currently is the market leader in announcements (only in the USA, though).
I always thought those 3DS stuff... were just tech demos to show the 3D
And assumed.. most of them became the 3DS Puzzle Quest prizes
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Oh, vapourware got redefined into 'not available in my country'?
By that logic most of Xbox Live Gold membership is vapourware to me
And neither does Polygon.
The Hermit
Member
amazing first reply
Aquamarine
Member
Portugeezer
Member
It's still stupid. Indirectly or directly, a game announcement is the announcement of a game and I don't have to read it on IGN/Gamespot/Polygon for it to be a proper announcement.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Words do not work like this.
It's a PC game.
Team Filler
Member
Oh god, Kohler keeps defending his use of the term "vaporware". Not only do I now regret giving that baiting article my clicks, but I also regret having previously given money for Chris Kohler's book.
I thought you were a journalist, Chris. My mistake, and good luck with your career in PR.
I thought you were a journalist, Chris. My mistake, and good luck with your career in PR.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Potential or likely vaporware work.
It is cynical and jaded as fuck, but it's not incorrect.
It is cynical and jaded as fuck, but it's not incorrect.
But promising future products to ensure customers remain happy is clearly the same as investing in Kickstarter projects!
This is the only way they could have learned this!
mentalfloss
Banned
nckillthegrimace
Member
To be fair, Rich's article was pretty terrible, but at least it didn't create some sort of bizarre pseudo-narrative. It was pretty much just him verbally ejaculating, though, which is still rather distressing. Also, he knows what words mean.
Aquamarine
Member
It's 0/2 for Kohler today. Tsk tsk.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
yes the article negative depiction of "promises". As Wii U owner I always criticisized Nintendo even here on GAF for not showing us what are we expecting whats in the future for the console since their last E3 was pathetic, and they literally fulfilled, no exceeded my expectation yesterday.
Yes Nintendo is giving promises and I don't think this is to remedy their sales for the SHORT time since everybody including Nintendo knows sales won't be fixed until software is present.
These early "Promises" show us as customers, Software makers and investors that this company is darn serious about their product, they could've gone Vita with Wii U and said "meh we have 3DS and Pokemon xy no need to worry".
Come on Kotaku, you've written some dumb articles in your life but th...
What?
What's a Polygon? Is that Kotaku's Japanese division?
No?
Okay, Kotaku, you win this time. I'll be watching you.
What?
What's a Polygon? Is that Kotaku's Japanese division?
No?
Okay, Kotaku, you win this time. I'll be watching you.
I only know about Polygon because of the Games Journalism thead. I probably won't start reading them any time soon.
Oh my favorite pastime
Insulting your audience and patting yourself on the back!
Always does wonders.
Team Filler
Member
So he is accusing GAF of raging against games journalism, when the reality is one of the biggest and most active threads on this site was in relation to the outrage the majority of GAF had when one of the few examples of actual games journalism was attacked with threat of litigation?
Chris Kohler, you can go fuck yourself.
Chris Kohler, you can go fuck yourself.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't have a blind rage against journalism. I would like to think anything I went to school to study for many years would not be something I have a blind rage against.
If I criticize games journalism, or political journalism, or tech journalism, or local journalism, I do not believe it to be blind. Dismissing my opinion as such to make yourself feel better should give you pause, because something is wrong.
If I criticize games journalism, or political journalism, or tech journalism, or local journalism, I do not believe it to be blind. Dismissing my opinion as such to make yourself feel better should give you pause, because something is wrong.
Also why they'll continue to use Nintendo Directs as well and use them more and more. Yet some of these sites continue to wonder why Nintendo doesn't become more open with them. Why should they when they produce stuff like this.
I'm hoping Nintendo comes out with a Nintendo Direct channel for the Wii U. That way as soon as you turn it on you can see when a new one has been done so you can bypass these sites all together.
I really think this is part of in the end.
Why is the games press so hostile towards this particular batch of Nintendo announcements. They bitched about the games only being released in the *gasp* future and try to tie Nintendo Directs, that have been going on for more than a year now, into the buzzwords du jour.
Or maybe they are just mad that they didn't get an exclusive.
Or maybe they are just mad that they didn't get an exclusive.
Eh, I didnt expect Kobun to indulge in silly twitter mockery. They must feel really treatened by these kind of eventos.
mentalfloss
Banned
Anyway, I can empathize if someone might have said, off the cuff, "hey that's kind of like a kickstarter project."
But to craft this piece as some sweeping analogy about a company's entire strategy, and to then use that analogy as a means to suggest the message or content is illegitimate?
Bad form polygonz.
But to craft this piece as some sweeping analogy about a company's entire strategy, and to then use that analogy as a means to suggest the message or content is illegitimate?
Bad form polygonz.
He got tired of pretending vaporware meant any game that hasn't been released in America yet.
If only those words where in the article.
grimshawish
Banned
Chris Plante on neogaf:
Games 'Bloggers' elitism has got on my tits for a while. The likes of Polygon are just hangers on who also unfortunately happen to be arrogant tossers who believe their doing something rather special.
Enough gaffers wrote better thoughts - both positive and negative - on that Direct.
Why do these people think they need to be praised for writing shit?
Games 'Bloggers' elitism has got on my tits for a while. The likes of Polygon are just hangers on who also unfortunately happen to be arrogant tossers who believe their doing something rather special.
Enough gaffers wrote better thoughts - both positive and negative - on that Direct.
Why do these people think they need to be praised for writing shit?
Where did it suggest that the strategy was illegitimate? It seemed like the article was presenting it as a mostly positive move.
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
What's the logic of treating GAF as a hive mind, again?
Its easier.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
JavelinRobin
Banned
Agreed. I thought Rich's article about the ND was surprisingly grounded. It addressed the issues Nintendo has had and what the stream attempted to do to remedy them. Well written.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
People really think that Nintendo event was no different than any other media event at a gaming conference? Nintendo name-dropping and waxing philosophically about games that are years out doesn't stand out to anyone else?
Funny how two guys that just wrote terrible articles in the same vein are patting each other on the backs. It makes me sad beause I used to love Kobun's work, but lately they took a nosedive.
But of course, I must be missing the point.
nckillthegrimace
Member
You nailed it. No other company announces video games that are more than a year out. Not a single one.
