State of Decay is kinda RPG. And i think they are doing fine with adressing different areas.
Halo Wars is a RTS, Sea of Thieves is a MMO for example. Quite different genres.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Project scorpio to be unveiled at E3
- Thread starter Strootman
- Start date
State of Decay is kinda RPG. And i think they are doing fine with adressing different areas.
Halo Wars is a RTS, Sea of Thieves is a MMO for example. Quite different genres.
Although I haven't checked e3 conference times. I think Microsoft is going first and I'm assuming PlayStation showing Destiny 2 at their conference there's virtually no chance that Microsoft will be allowed to show it running on their console right? Will they be able to show RDR2? Which multiplats do you think they'll be allowed to show? New Lord of the Rings game?
jim2point0
Banned
For a totally reasonable and expected price?
PositiveGamer
Member
Assassins Creed is my guess and Tomb Raider.
ForkNetwork
Banned
I bet on Shadow of War showing up, not sure of what else though.
If this is the price I may actually buy one. But it won't be. They would be selling at a pretty big loss per unit if component prices are to be believed.
PositiveGamer
Member
Shadow of who? What? Am lost
jim2point0
Banned
If it launched NOW, I'd maybe agree with you. But it's almost 8 months out. By then, I think $400 will be not so huge.
Ascenion
Member
AC was an Xbox thing only for Unity. I don't really see them having it.
It switches with every game. Like Battlefield.
Jaguar Victory
Member
$399.99 would be huge. It would sell gangbusters. I'm expecting $499 and to sell really really well. I'm definitely pre-ordering to make sure I get one day 1 dannit. Don't want to wait and queue at BestBuy early as hell.
Jaguar Victory
Member
I doubt TR comes out this year, most likely next. Don't forget they switched developers aswell (so it will take a little longer than usual)
Ascenion
Member
A game doesn't need to be exclusive to be developed properly.
Also I think Disney being convinced to licence exclusively would cost a lot of money, a lot.
Scorpio's unveiling and pricing will probably be mostly in the form of a video/ad that's played for the first time at E3. I expect Phil Spencer to be on stage to drop some unreleased information regarding the console, and that's gonna take up the beginning of the Xbox E3 conference. Include a list of games that will be available with a Scorpio update come its release, and I think the unveiling could go well. I also expect a bit more in terms of hardware, the Xbox Design Lab might be expanded to include Elite controllers and consoles as well.
Next, we know what to expect for first party at this point:
-Crackdown 3
-State of Decay 2
-Forza 7
-Sea of Thieves
-Ashen
-Cuphead
-Probably Halo in some shape or form. Beta for 6? RPG? Halo Kart Racers? Halo Mega Blok's Evolved? Who can say...
I expect Cuphead to be available immediately following the E3 conference, or at least within the week, as a E3 showcase would serve to reignite the hype that's been lost while waiting for so long. Outside of that, New IP's or revival of older ones is kinda hard to gauge at this point, don't know what they might bring back or who might be working on it in the first place. I feel if they can deliver both, one AAA new IP and one old IP being bought back to life, id be satisfied.
Now in terms of third party marketing, I expect we will see Xbox get the rumored Assassins Creed project and possibly an upcoming Bethesda title, depending on how far along that is. Also, I would not be surprised to see Splinter Cell make an appearance, given the franchises history with the platform. I also expect to see a video contrasting many third party games performance on Xbox One, PC, and Scorpio. I also expect them to start showing off the rumored unified marketplace for W10 and Xbox that's suppose to be coming in the fall, but Gamescom seems like it would be a better fit, or perhaps that PC-focused E3 event they have been doing the past 2 years.
End the presentation with an "and one more thing"-style announcement of an OG Xbox collection, and I think it would be a killer show.
Next, we know what to expect for first party at this point:
-Crackdown 3
-State of Decay 2
-Forza 7
-Sea of Thieves
-Ashen
-Cuphead
-Probably Halo in some shape or form. Beta for 6? RPG? Halo Kart Racers? Halo Mega Blok's Evolved? Who can say...
I expect Cuphead to be available immediately following the E3 conference, or at least within the week, as a E3 showcase would serve to reignite the hype that's been lost while waiting for so long. Outside of that, New IP's or revival of older ones is kinda hard to gauge at this point, don't know what they might bring back or who might be working on it in the first place. I feel if they can deliver both, one AAA new IP and one old IP being bought back to life, id be satisfied.
Now in terms of third party marketing, I expect we will see Xbox get the rumored Assassins Creed project and possibly an upcoming Bethesda title, depending on how far along that is. Also, I would not be surprised to see Splinter Cell make an appearance, given the franchises history with the platform. I also expect to see a video contrasting many third party games performance on Xbox One, PC, and Scorpio. I also expect them to start showing off the rumored unified marketplace for W10 and Xbox that's suppose to be coming in the fall, but Gamescom seems like it would be a better fit, or perhaps that PC-focused E3 event they have been doing the past 2 years.
End the presentation with an "and one more thing"-style announcement of an OG Xbox collection, and I think it would be a killer show.
Who are "some folks"?
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
They need a new First Party franchise the likes of Halo and Gears.
Okami Haundo
Member
I'm late to the party here but I had a feeling that they would take this approach. The information we're missing on Scorpio right now could be easily covered in a video that lasts a few minutes not unlike the one they used to reveal the Xbox One S.
After much deliberation (and plenty of car issues) I've decided that Scorpio just isn't in the cards for me this year. Either way, I still look forward to seeing what they have to show for it!
After much deliberation (and plenty of car issues) I've decided that Scorpio just isn't in the cards for me this year. Either way, I still look forward to seeing what they have to show for it!
Some folks are forum folks.
I wanted to say to those that posted the Crackdown info, thanks.
I see with anything Scorpio and MS related lately things get a lil testy...
I might be wrong but the only Assassin's Creed game that was sided with Microsoft for marketing was Unity and that was because Microsoft offered Ubisoft to bundle it with every console sold during the 2014 holiday season.
The PS3 games, Black Flag and Syndicate were all marketed with Sony so in this case we can't really talk about commonly switching marketing partners.
But this year things are a bit different, with Sony having deals with all the biggest games (COD WWII, Destiny 2, RDR2 and Star Wars) of the next holiday season for Ubisoft their biggest chance at having exposure is probably with Xbox where things are nowhere as busy. It makes sense to use it as a third party showcase title for Scorpio.
Also:
Tomb Raider won't be announced so early, also with the rumors about Eidos Montreal developing the next game and the previous exclusive partnership with Microsoft not having a positive result for the franchise, I think they won't side with MS again for the next one.
Forgot about A Creed & Tomb Raider. For 3rd party do they usually have to have the marketing deal in order to show it st their conference? Didn't PlayStation have the last deal? Maybe gave it up because they have quite a few others this year. I have to go check times. How long is their conference?
BleedOrange
Banned
If I dont see Ryse 2 or Sunset Overdrive 2 then Phil is fired.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
I'm looking forward to this unveiling and all the extra related tidbits that go with it. It's been a year since the announce and very slender meaningful details to work with.
Microsoft seem hungry and eager to come out fighting - I want all that razzmatazz and spectacle!
And do that "Everyone here gets a unit FOR FREE" stuff too.
Go all out, get that momentum and ride it hard.
Should be a great E3!
Microsoft seem hungry and eager to come out fighting - I want all that razzmatazz and spectacle!
And do that "Everyone here gets a unit FOR FREE" stuff too.
Go all out, get that momentum and ride it hard.
Should be a great E3!
Miles Quaritch
Member
I only care about Crackdown 3.
Show me that, running on Scorpio, 1080/4k/30fps or 60, I don't care, just show me it running on Scorpio, let people pick up a controller and play it and release it this year with the destruction tech intact and a a keys to the city mode available from day one, not ad DLC.
And superpowered lieutenants and transforming vehicles. I'm getting off point, just show me Crackdown 3 on Scorpio.
Show me that, running on Scorpio, 1080/4k/30fps or 60, I don't care, just show me it running on Scorpio, let people pick up a controller and play it and release it this year with the destruction tech intact and a a keys to the city mode available from day one, not ad DLC.
And superpowered lieutenants and transforming vehicles. I'm getting off point, just show me Crackdown 3 on Scorpio.
RowdyReverb
Member
I feel like if it was going to be surprisingly expensive, they would announce the price before the event so as to avoid that dominating the news
That's what I'm thinking too. Hmmmm....
I'd say
-Assassins creed
-Tomb raider( probably a spring release)
-Shadow of Mordor
-FIFA and madden( although they wouldn't be on stage)
From who? Spencer has said expect premium price, DF have said it'll most likely be $499, gamers purchasing it day one atleast on here are expecting $499. The only people that expect it to be lower aren't serious buyers, at least they're on the fence, I doubt they'd be upset if it's more and will most likely wait it out.
huh? Did you even see what is inside Scorpio? This is easily $499 worth.
somecrazymember
Banned
2 E3's for the same hardware 'unveil' .. Mmkay
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Karl Pilkington is that you!?
They don't have the studios or partnerships to develop these games. Also, people overestimate the cache of those old brands. They should be focusing on building new BIG things that show off investment. A Recore, KI, Ryse, is not enough. I want to see something that shows the full weight of the company behind it, ala Horizon.
somecrazymember
Banned
Honestly i think this will actually be a PC.
funkystudent
Member
We saw the same arguments around PS4 and PS4 Pro near launch too from armchair hardware engineers etc...
Scorpio will be $399.
If anything given Xboxs current market position they will go back to the old "lose money on hardware to make it back later in SW" strategy that everyone dropped this gen.
499 isnt gonna move the needle much for them and they need the boost. They know they need the boost. Its gonna be 399.
I've never understood this mentality. It's as if the notion that people prefer to use a console and/or play where the friends they've established over years in the same ecosystem don't merit any consideration. Just get a PC dummy, they're stronger. So shortsighted/annoying.
Wrap it up guys, everyone's getting PCs now.
Yup, Perpetual Consoles! They will be never ending!
DriftingSpirit
Member
I was talking about a press conference.
BrownWalrus
Member
I'll just wait it out and get a Scorpio. Crackdown 3 could be promising and I'm really hoping for a proper Fable sequel.
But yea until they get some actual games on it it will be a 4K Bluray/Multiplat box, which is still something.
A tad surprised there's no special event before E3, but if they keep the drip feed of info going between now and E3 then maybe that's a better tactic.
This letter from Phil is particularly interesting. It reads to me a bit as a "please come back to us developers... and gamers too".
I sincerely wish them well with this console release. It's exciting when new hardware is done well and so far they seem to have made some pretty good choices.
Oh and since this will probably come up in this thread too: while I used to think Scorpio would launch for $499 or more, after the news from this week I think it's going to be $399 after all.
This letter from Phil is particularly interesting. It reads to me a bit as a "please come back to us developers... and gamers too".
I sincerely wish them well with this console release. It's exciting when new hardware is done well and so far they seem to have made some pretty good choices.
Oh and since this will probably come up in this thread too: while I used to think Scorpio would launch for $499 or more, after the news from this week I think it's going to be $399 after all.
Did MS really lose devs? Like I don't count marketing because the game is being developed regardless. I think this gen really left a bad taste is MS mouth. Pride more than anything which is still good for competition. Just don't want pride to lead to blind ambition for MS and Xbox but they seem to be in the right direction!