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PS4 firmware 4.50 add Boost Mode for PS4 Pro.
- Thread starter Guymelef
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The difference in Just Cause 3 is transformative.
I was having fun with the game at launch, finding the slowdown frustrating but playable, until I got to the largest island. The framerate became totally unbearable even when just gliding over settlements and bases, with no action going on.
With Boost turned on, I flew over those same areas now with no slowdown, and it remained playable even when I started wreaking havoc. I'm not going to claim that it's silky smooth, but the difference is huge. I'm kind of amazed.
I was having fun with the game at launch, finding the slowdown frustrating but playable, until I got to the largest island. The framerate became totally unbearable even when just gliding over settlements and bases, with no action going on.
With Boost turned on, I flew over those same areas now with no slowdown, and it remained playable even when I started wreaking havoc. I'm not going to claim that it's silky smooth, but the difference is huge. I'm kind of amazed.
M.W.
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tokenflipguy
Member
I wished I got into the beta. Looking forward to it. Also I am new here!
Deadly Joker
Member
Have they mentioned a potential release date yet?
Yes, absolutely physically impossible, by by boosted you mean 'perform better with boost mode enabled' as you suggested at the start of this conversation.
Any game that is already pro enabled is already telling the PS4 Pro to not run in its base mode configuration, which is at best what boost mode is doing, native pro supporting games might also be further code optimized to take advantage of any hardware differences as well, which boost mode would be incapable of doing..
There is a literal physical impossibility of boost mode being more performative than native pro support in a like for like scenario. Of course, a game might do something like double the resolution or add additional visual elements with native pro support, but that's not a like for like scenario.
Boost mode is not magic, it is not overclocking your PS4 pro.
Mayor_McCheeze
Member
Any results for Xcom 2?
giancarlo123x
Banned
Already has pro features so no boost.
You are mostly right. But it's not "physically impossible" to be more performative like you say over and over. "Performative" is not a straight forward word, but typically it is associated more with frame rate than Image Quality ( I would guess most people would agree with me here, but if you don't, then my argument holds less water ).
Games like Watch Dogs 2, TLOU, and Skyrim remaster, all run at way higher resolutions and IQ on Pro, but all of these examples suffer from reduced frame rate to their ( lower IQ ) PS4 amateur counterparts. I know, I know, Sony is supposed to be demanding that no PRO versions run at lowers frame rates than BASE versions, but there are existing proven examples of it happening.
So if there were way to play skyrim in BASE mode on a PRO, and turn on this boost thing. You might get better frame rate than a PRO version. Just sayin'
Edit: correct that the physical hardware is no more powerful ( well duh, no one though boost mode added magic ram or clock cycles lol ), just saying that different software implementations could allow for it. I would personally prefer if Sony gave us all configuration options on PRO, but I am just thankful for the boost mode right now.
I said like for like, comparing the performance of a game in 1080p + boost mode versus 4k with native pro support is not like for like.
The person I was responding to was earlier suggesting that it should be possible to get a performance boost in pro enabled games by using boost mode on top because they believe some pro patches are not using the full GPU & CPU power but (direct quote) "Boost mode is basically hit the ceiling......"
Lee Chaolan
Member
Yay got the new firmware!
...now to wait until I get a Pro.
...now to wait until I get a Pro.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yup, definitely rebuying (^_____^)
We confirmed boost mode DOES NOT make the fans go apeshit, correct?
ElMexiMerican
Member
Okay, so I've been messing around with Dying Light and switching between Base and Boost Modes, and I'm pretty sure in some interiors the Base Mode runs a lot smoother compared to in Boost. Currently making a quick comparison video and will post in the video thread once its uploaded.
Bog
Junior Ace
Not on the disc. And the current pro patch does nothing.
Not true: https://twitter.com/xcom/status/804394084198584320
It's just a very lazy patch and not that noticeable.
It's butter smooth. Looks a bit aged though.
-hadouken
Member
You're in for a treat - patch has completely transformed 64 player matches. The 45fps, headache inducing jankfest is at an end!
Shame we can't get a bump to 1080P. 900P scaling artefacts and smear are unfortunate, but assets are still great.
Rain City Gamer
Member
Thank god for that 4K UI boost!
I get this is a joke but even a pro patch that adds nothing would still be giving you all of the features of 'boost mode'.
Oh fuck yes.
I can deal with the dated visuals (although it will probably be a bit jarring if you play it right after BF1 lol), but solid 60fps must feel incredible.
It should perform better, yes...
AlexFlame116
Member
I don't know if this is in the right thread or if it's related to either the Pro itself or Boost Mode but I tried Slender: The Arrival cause I was bored and I noticed that the lighting and shadows were way off. Like you could see the borders when a different shading occurs.
Moon Presence
Member
PS4 Pro be like: "This is not even my final form"
I literally thought the same thing without doing any research and yeah... now have to re-download everything and goodbye PT. Ah well, wasn't ever gonna play it anyway
Gradly
Member
You can remove games and things you can download later, and keep those you wanna keep like PT etc then take a backup to external HDD or USB stick depending on the size. Later you can just restore that without loosing PT for example. I mean you don't have to backup everything if you don't have that space, you still can do it for only one game if you want
purpletentacle
Member
This. I posted a guide as to how I moved PT to my new Pro a few pages back. Will try to find it and quote it.
Miggytronz
Member
RB6 is super smooth now
It's really surprising that Sony has been sitting on this through months of loud complaint about opt-in-only Pro enhancements and unfavorable comparisons to the Scorpio project. It almost feels borderline irresponsible from a marketing perspective considering the long term impact it will have on the messaging for the product. I'd love to hear some explanation down the road for why they didn't feel comfortable discussing it more openly if it was this close to deployment. It wasn't even included in the major firmware update features on the NA Sony blog, was it? It seems bizarre.
Gradly
Member
I believe Sony wanna release new features when they are ready. Plus the hype now is better than hype 3 or 4 months ago (or whenever FW 4.0 was released), announce something cool every time and then to keep the good news in circulation
They may have had to address something on the backend in order to make more games work with it. Could be the result of AMD giving them more info on it working well. I also have a theory that they knew it caused issues in a couple major titles and wanted to avoid the issue entirely until they were was Pro patched or would run properly.
It likely wasn't detailed in the initial 4.5 announcement because if it caused widespread issues, they could pull it before going public with it. The beta is NDA'd, despite the fact that there is a lot of info out there about it now.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Welcome! There's another thread where folks are signing up to access beta through burner account. Please check it out.
Yep, I actually had done that when I was upgrading to the 2TB. I only transfered some games (like PT) and my save files. However, I was so sure that taking my 2TB hard drive from one PS4 and putting it in another was going to work, that I didn't bother backing anything up, and by the time I did the hard drive switch, it was too late. Gamestop had my old PS4 =/ It's OK though, I wasn't nearly as heartbroken about it like I thought I'd be.
It's astonishing how uninformative Sony has been with the Pro generally. This thing is being marketed as providing an enhanced experience on Pro-enabled games, yet Sony is not providing details of what those specific enhancements are to each game. Neither is it requiring devs/publishers to do so.
This lack of communication is particularly egregious given that the Pro benefits can vary wildly from one game to the next. It's being left to users to find that information for themselves: people are doing their own pixel-counting (thank you OP of the Pro games thread!) - it's insane.
It's bordering on misleading that, for example, the Pro is advertised as enhancing Pro-patched games, but that - on my 1080p TV - I get no tangible benefit at all from the Pro version of AC Ezio Collection (because it doesn't have downsampling, and somehow is still locked to 30fps).
Sony needs to:
(1) mandate that specific, detailed Pro enhancement info is provided as standard; and
(2) enable downsampling on a system level.
Boost mode seems a big step in the right direction though, so I am cautiously optimistic!
It doesn't work like that...
Crayon
Member
I think you misread.
Which game with a Pro patch isn't hitting its framerate cap?
This is a really interesting idea. I'd also almost always prefer increased framerates over enhanced effects, and theoretically most games that were built with a pro patch should already be able to tolerate framerate increase/stabilization. I'm not sure they'd be able to allow the user to choose such fine-grained options without running the risk of making the messaging and UI for the Pro even more confusing to regular consumers though. One of the big narratives around consoles is that they make it easy for gaming consumers who don't want to deal with figuring out how to choose and optimize between a bunch of technical options, so that has to be a concern for Sony.
Edit: Some folks are responding that the above statement "isn't how it works", but I'm not sure I understand your logic. Is there some confirmed technical evidence that the PS4 Pro firmware doesn't have a logic switch to ignore the Pro Patch and run the base game? If not, then there's nothing stopping the ability to select boost mode and ignore the Pro Patch enhancements aside from Sony's willingness to allow that choice, rigtht?
Crayon
Member
In some cases the boosted vanilla ps4 game may be preferable to the pro version. And it would be able to compare the two setting in future games as opposed to the boost mode kind of fading into obscurity as all future games have a pro patch.
FFXV already got a Pro mode, it is not worst than normal.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324251
FFXV has pro support so boost is deactivated for it.
Crayon
Member
It's actually a little cumbersome. Given that they were willing to not make a big deal about the boost mode, they may be willing to let it be a little rough around the edges as it may be just aimed at a small number of the most finicky users like us.