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PS4 has 8 GB OF GDDR5 RAM
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No. Both developers and Sony (for their OS features) gain a lot of breathing room though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ
Oh buddy, thats quite fun. Was it covered before in a thread?
Oh buddy, thats quite fun. Was it covered before in a thread?
jordan0386
Member
Depends on the game and who makes it.
The detail and environments across the board will be much better though.
They've done so much with 256mb. It's really hard to come to grips with what we'll get if the avg game only uses 2GB.
Really gotta see what the launch Madden will look like.
BradleyLove
Member
This might seem a radical thought, I know, but have you ever stopped and considered that it's the games that determine what's the "better" gaming machine? Furthermore, given that games are generally subjective, surely the "better" gaming machine is the one that has the most games that appeal to a given individual, be that 360, PS3 or an iPhone.
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jordan0386
Member
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Not my conversation between you and dude but I found your statement amazingly profound and one-sided seeing all the "wtfshitcock" reactions from both camps at the slightest leveling of expectations with logic. I dont know what threads you read but the BS from both camps is shockingly tasty.
Clearly you see yourself above the fray but your comments show otherwise.
dr. apocalipsis
Banned
Gaming machine is a Hardware. You are talking about software. MS did better at hardware, and Sony did much better at software. Funny, isn't it?
Oh, noes. I'm a resentful SEGA fanboy, who survives in the PC space after being an early Amiga 500 adopter.
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BradleyLove
Member
It's hysterical.
You play software, not hardware. You can have the best hardware in the world, but if the games are pants, then you're gonna have a bad time.
Great hardware =/= great games.
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The Everyman
i think we'd need to know their bankroll to know that.
Really? Like significantly worse? That's pretty disappointing..Guess PC will still overtake consoles again enough half way through the gen despite the awesome ram.
Reckon the PS4 would be able to handle a PC setup of BF3 at max settings at 1080p / 60fps? Not an optimised version, just say if a PC had the PS4 hardware..
horrible, made it 45 seconds in.
yeah, they know better then developers, cerny or any of this idiots. lmao.
8GB of gddr5 is insane, no one expected it, and now it's meh
Hesemonni
Banned
"At E3 LOL!"
I predict you'll be gone before long. There are multiple threads at Beyond3D discussing this very topic. You are misinformed or are spreading misinformation. If you want to argue that 8 GB GDDR5 will hurt Sony in their pricing strategy to casuals and profit, I would agree; but you have an obvious and pathetic agenda.
A first party dev talked to me today when I inquired about RAM, and he told me he had no idea of the upgrade. This was something Sony was hiding from everyone except Cerny.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Can someone tell me what 8GB GDDR5 means compared to high end PC gaming today? =/
I remember you saying a developer doing that would be bad business, and yet here we are today.
Took us all for spin didn't he. I would assume that not in your wildest dream did you expect it to be 8GB "GDDR5". Good times.
It essentially leverages PS4 for the first year or so above PC gaming. You can be confident that PS4 will be your defacto multiplat machine (unless you like spending 1k on your GPU) for the next two years. PC's will have advantages that manifest themselves at greater resolutions, polygon counts, framerates etc. They are a moving target. The single greatest upgrade either machine can do, STILL, at this point, is increase RAM. This is not my opinion either.
Developer's cut so much stuff trying to keep things into memory. This is a breath of fresh air, and raises the bar for what to expect. Sony didn't arbitrarily increase RAM amount and leave the other portions of the machine weaker. This is the best upgrade they could do. If you asked any AAA developer right now what upgrade would offer the best impact on the player visually; they would all echo RAM.
Trust me, I was more shocked than you were. When you see a document head first, and have someone tell you things are set in stone, it's a jarring revelation to see any thing improve. This was the last thing I'd ever expect, but this is the greatest thing to have happened.
You have no idea.
CadetMahoney
Member
There's no way they'll cheap out on the declared 8 GDDR5, it'll be like saying no more free online.
Digital Foundry Spec Analysis for Playstation 4
Basically covers everything we know by now. Still new thread worthy?
Basically covers everything we know by now. Still new thread worthy?
There is another thread dedicated to it, but this thread is the shits and giggles of some Junior claiming 8 GB GDDR5 is bad for gamers.
dr. apocalipsis
Banned
That's why I'm talking about hardware and not taking into account anything else.
You can't say any given hardware is better than other just because ND didn't do their magic in there. You can say any given console, as a whole, is. Given your preferences, of course.
As a hardware, any given code will run better on 360 most of the times, because is capable of better performance. That's all.
You, sir, have a poisonous attitude. And I will be glad not to cross any word with you as far as you keep as hostile as this.
I don't like people that go ad hominem because they can't hold any better argument.
Greetings.
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LOL.
Yes, let's paint an entire user base with broad strokes, shall we?
Apples and Oranges. Cant really start doing proper argument until we see real multiplatform PS4/PC games.
No one in industry really dreamed of 8GB GDDR5. Vg leaks also confirmed that it was secret to a lot of first party devs to.
Latest devkits on which they worked had 4GB !
dr. apocalipsis
Banned
I can say I don't agree at Microsoft bloating their OS. No one will insult me.
I can say Nintendo never aimed at hold the best performer console, even at SNES and N64 era. People agree or disagree, no more problems.
Now, If I dare to say that Cell isn't a good choice for a gaming machine, or people are overestimating the RAM influence, just as I said in a WiiU thread btw, people will mock up on me and wish my BAN.
Yes, along some other things. Probaby you will agree more with someone saying that 8GB GDDR5 RAM makes a console more powerful than any given PC from now to over a year.
Yeah I don't know. My PC isn't even uber but let's just say I'm in wait and see mode. I never buy a console at launch anyway but for something to last the next 5-7 years...I'm not doing back flips like some people.
elbourreau
Member
Here's for you tech guys.
Can additionnal RAM can switch a 30fps game to a 60fps game. I though, the ram was impulsing more informations on screen (resolution, highdef textures, etc...) but the framerate limitation was due to the memory clock, core clock, etc...
I'm a tech newbie, i would appreciate some enlightments!
Can additionnal RAM can switch a 30fps game to a 60fps game. I though, the ram was impulsing more informations on screen (resolution, highdef textures, etc...) but the framerate limitation was due to the memory clock, core clock, etc...
I'm a tech newbie, i would appreciate some enlightments!
BradleyLove
Member
You said GAF would never accept 360 is the better "gaming machine".
You're changing your argument. We're either talking about a device and the games it plays or we're not. I have access to a computer at work that would blow any gaming device out the water (in terms of raw computational power) if not for the fact it can't run games.
Hardware alone is not enough.
Huh? No. Not at all. Not in any way, shape or form. The 2014 PC screenshot thread will prove that. Never mind 2015, which is mostly in your 2 year span from PS4 launch.
No. Not in any remotely realistic scenario.
1. You brought MS, Nintendo, SNES, N64 into single post which is quite a feat considering we are talking here about Sony recent 8GB GDDR5 move
2. You just said again that 8GB of GDDR5 is bad for gaming.
3. You put in my mouth something with "probably". Don't do that.
ArisenDragon
Member
Here's for you tech guys.
Can additionnal RAM can switch a 30fps game to a 60fps game. I though, the ram was impulsing more informations on screen (resolution, highdef textures, etc...) but the framerate limitation was due to the memory clock, core clock, etc...
I'm a tech newbie, i would appreciate some enlightments!
RAM stands for random access memory it will help in the speed of the system, multitasking, and other features but for games it will help make the system less of a bottleneck and not slow it down so they pretty much you can do a lot with it.
Treemonkeys
Member
I really hope this doesn't end up like blu-ray on PS3 were nearly every multi-plat game just doesn't bother to utilize it.
backbreaker65
Banned
does anyone have that post by a guy who explained GDDR5 vs DDR3 in laymans terms bookmarked? I would like to read it too have a better understanding.
He explained in a way how to move from one place to another and how to unpack it.
He explained in a way how to move from one place to another and how to unpack it.
elbourreau
Member
So the PS4 upgrading from 4G to 8G gddr5 can improve framerate. Would be great to have a solid rock framerate, or better a solid rock 60fps.
madmaxx350
Member
i agree with you but we're talking PS4/PC multis and PC exclusives right?
As I understand it any game with old gen versions would not looks as good as the previous ones I stated as they will still be in pre-dx10 era in feature sets right?
I still think PC will benefit most after dev start making ps4-Durango-PC multis
No, framerate comes back to how powerful the GPU itself is.
elbourreau
Member
Damned... That was my first thoughts........Thnks
ArisenDragon
Member
The DDR5 is very good it will have more memory bandwidth which means it could push more to the screen faster. I believe we probably will see some games at 1080p 60fps but some devs might want to go lower to 720p to push more polygons to the screen have to see its still really early.
That's kind of funny considering the reaction on gaf to 8gb of gddr5
Well he said "not in resolution" part. It is wishfull thinking especially since everything will be dowscaled to new Xbox (if nothing will change). But we also must agree that resolution as we know is important don't make as much wow factor as new types of techniques or effects and share design.
Kung Fu Grip
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Portugeezer
Member
I made a thread and this place is going so fast it got buried in a minute, so I will post here.
What does 8GB GDDR5 mean for games?
I always thought RAM affected the potential size of the world, i.e. less RAM means you sacrifice graphics/detail in order to have larger worlds, and smaller worlds can have more detailed graphics.
Is this correct? If so, will we be seeing amazing looking open world games on PS4/next gen with little to no sacrifices made?
What does 8GB GDDR5 mean for games?
I always thought RAM affected the potential size of the world, i.e. less RAM means you sacrifice graphics/detail in order to have larger worlds, and smaller worlds can have more detailed graphics.
Is this correct? If so, will we be seeing amazing looking open world games on PS4/next gen with little to no sacrifices made?
If not, it deserves one