CaptainTiptop
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Haha, I know.But are they cheaper? No.
I had someone tell me they could get a PC that was '10x more powerful than the PS4' for 'literally the same price' recently. Lol, alright then.
Haha, I know.But are they cheaper? No.
Just making sure: Did you mean Mac Air?
Either way, this is from 2004:
Vaio X505 with nickle carbon body (Was expensive though).
Not really that surprising with what other stuff Sony makes.
And that first post is such a derailment of the thread.
Just making sure: Did you mean Mac Air?
Either way, this is from 2004:
Vaio X505 with nickle carbon body (Was expensive though).
Not really that surprising with what other stuff Sony makes.
And that first post is such a derailment of the thread.
Yeah, CPUs aren't going to be too important for next gen. Both consoles have dedicated audio hardware which frees but a lot of CPU time and at least the PS4 can offset a lot of functionality onto GPU compute. The CPU is merely sufficient for the tasks it needs to do while the GPU seems designed to help it out quite a bit.Do we know how it compares to the 4 core version?also wouldn't the compute functions of the PS4's GPU free up much more CPU time?
Let's run over both and see which will still run.Pfft try again.
and yes the power supply is inside.
You're assuming both the PS4 and Xbox One output the same amount of heat when under full load.
I think assembly of Xbox One is much easier which leads to reduced cost.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
Good point. I'm not sure about the heat output of eSRAM and DDR3 under full load compared to GDDR5, but from what I've been reading the ESRAM alone outputs a hefty amount alone.
But there is a lot of wasted space in the Xbone and most of it seems to be down to the size of the fan, surely using a more concentrated heat sink approach could have cut down on the wasted space? This is what I'm assuming Sony have done, in fact it seems like the only reasonable approach.
A mid range 2012 GPU and a netbook CPU is an engineering marvel? Must be nice to be so easily impressed.
What the hell, where is the RAM tucked away? And the graphics card? I only see a disc drive, the CPU fan and the HDD. Jesus Christ Sony.
Just making sure: Did you mean Mac Air?
I've highlighted the area I'm talking about. What if that area could display the game you're playing, game update alerts, downloads, and other notifications? I hadn't read anything about it in the specs, so it's unlikely but I still can't help but think that it would be perfect.
ehh I work for Tiger Direct which means I build people computers and
you're wrong the FX chips are high end desktop cpu's that have 8 cores
the GPU is not mid rage its a high end with 8 Gddr5 memory not one GPU at my store
has that sooo yep.
The OP's picture is of the Xbox One, PS4 internals haven't been revealed yet.
You can see copper heat pipes on the Xbox One. Generally speaking, being able to use minimal cooling means the product is cheaper to make. It has less overhead for heat management. A smaller devices means it has less raw materials as well. Follow this logic.
You have a box, but it runs too hot. It is going to cost you more money to have to increase the size and ventillation and cooling than it would cost to have a similar designed box that doesn't run hot and doesn't need excessive cooling.
Fx cpu jaguar is not.
Unless im mistaken. Jaguar was suppose to go into tablets or netbooks.
He means this:
No, the Mac Pro looks like its from the future.
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You think your laptop can play games like inFamous and Battlefield 4?
Just making sure: Did you mean Mac Air?
But the heat difference isn't very big. As far as I know ESRAM has a tiny heat output and PS4 has a bigger GPU. I don't think plastic and aluminium cost a lot more than making a cramped console and putting more expensive fans and heat pipes.
The One also just has two heatpipes and they're probably the cheapest ones out there. This is what keeps the 90W 15inch MacBook Retina cool (barely, it throttles a bit). The One is probably 100W.
A 125-135W (equivalent to a desktop enthusiast CPU) part being cooled in an enclosure that size is quite a feat. But please, troll on.
Yield issue. It's a lot of transistors.Every source, including CBOAT, has been saying the eSRAM is a huge heat issue for the Xbox One.
Just to remind people of what Sony is capable of doing.
It's ridiculous how compact they managed to make the PS2 Slim. Amazing design and engineering.Just to remind people of what Sony is capable of doing.
There may also be more hardware inside the Xbox One designated for Kinect and HDMI input with DVRs. that may create a bigger board.
ITT: Some PC gamers who are going to be sorely disappointed when their 'superior than PS4' laptop can only run next-gen games on low settings.
Just to remind people of what Sony is capable of doing.
The One may indeed output more heat, but I still think that this design is highly inefficient, if they put a bit more money into the functional design of the box and the cooling system and not the aesthetics then I think they could have come up with a more compact system.
This laptop is 120W. Gaming PCs have overclocked CPUs with maybe 150W TDP and GPUs with 200-250W TDP for one.
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Yield issue. It's a lot of transistors.
Bullshit.netbook CPU
This laptop is 120W. Gaming PCs have overclocked CPUs with maybe 150W TDP
and GPUs with 200-250W TDP for one.
Lets wait to see how hot/loud it gets and what the failure rate is.