What would the landscape look like without gamepass?
The same I would imagine, or more in Sony's favour. I can't think of a reason why Gamepass would mean less Xboxs being sold.
What would the landscape look like without gamepass?
What would the landscape look like without gamepass?
You're forgetting the Series S exists, and you can find it in stores. That's why I said 3 consoles.No what, no the Xbox isn’t selling every unit they make? So you can just walk down to any shop at any time on any day and pick up a series X or PS5 off the shelf?
Yeah it's weird. The Switch has been dominating the number 1 market in the world for 30 months straight but I don't see many (if any) celebration threads. On the other hand some random 3rd party game sells 3000 copies and there's a celebration thread because Playstation had more market share. I guess some people desperately need every "win" they can getWhy do people fap over sonys sales numbers so much. There's a thread at least once a week about playstation sales numbers.
You must not be paying attention then. Tons of Switch domination celebrating going on here.Yeah it's weird. The Switch has been dominating the number 1 market in the world for 30 months straight but I don't see many (if any) celebration threads. On the other hand some random 3rd party game sells 3000 copies and there's a celebration thread because Playstation had more market share. I guess some people desperately need every "win" they can get
I bought my xbox digitally on windows 11. I don't know anyone who buys physical. None of my friends buy physical xboxes anymore.
*Adds PS5 into the comparison*
Google Trends doesn't really back up the idea of PS5 dominating over Xbox machines, at least at the level of interest. Last year, sure, two to one even, but things appear to be changing. You can switch the region to the UK, it's a similar enough picture. I'm curious to know if sales will eventually match interest, or if there's another reason for differences.
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How quickly they forgetJust take a trip down memory lane and read the thread,
'300 dollar Gamepass machine it's a kill'
So you are saying the average age of neogaf users is 12-15 years old?It would be no different if xbox were in first place. People like to brag about the success of their consoles.
So you are saying the average age of neogaf users is 12-15 years old?
I suspect this is because there's not really any reset that happened like past transitions of console generations.
You can basically play any game you had at your PS4 on the PS5 so the purchases you had in the past at their ecosystem still brings value to you.
It would take a monumental fuck up of Sony or Nintendo for MS to overtake them in markets where they are leading already.
Xbox gamers don't buy xboxes because they have gamepass on PC. Easy
Oh, and also UK is irrelevant tiny market, you know
Dang I need to setup Windows 11 so I can download an XboxI bought my xbox digitally on windows 11. I don't know anyone who buys physical. None of my friends buy physical xboxes anymore.
This is bang on. With the transition to more digital game purchases, people more locked in to their online subscriptions, friend lists, and social sharing, as you say there is no reset. MS picked the worst gen to lose.
You post random analyst estimates instead of using actual tracked sales data?This is the type of delusion I was talking about ^^
PS5 is estimated to have doubled Xbox Series X/S sales during Q1 2021 | VGC
Research also suggests Nintendo Switch sold twice as many units as PS5…www.videogameschronicle.com
It was 2:1 the start of this year. That's significantly worse than the 7:5 split from last gen. We've also seen chip production numbers where Sony is allocated double of what is allocated to MS from AMD.
So what fantasy are you living in?
Just take a trip down memory lane and read the thread,
'300 dollar Gamepass machine it's a kill'
Amazon UK says 1 unit available of the S…..You're forgetting the Series S exists, and you can find it in stores. That's why I said 3 consoles.
Xbox Series S: Amazon.co.uk: PC & Video Games
Xbox Series S: Amazon.co.uk: PC & Video Gameswww.amazon.co.uk
absolutely. it looks like sony wil not only retain all those ps4 owners but also add new customers on top of that. last generation was one of the most important in that aspect because its more of a continuation than it ever has been in the past.
You post random analyst estimates instead of using actual tracked sales data?
Jup that's delusional.
And I thought UK was Xbox second most important market...really hoping you're joking.Xbox gamers don't buy xboxes because they have gamepass on PC. Easy
Oh, and also UK is irrelevant tiny market, you know
Probably about the same, I don't think it's even on the radar of most people.What would the landscape look like without gamepass?
Ssshhhhhh don't break the narrative!You're forgetting the Series S exists, and you can find it in stores. That's why I said 3 consoles.
Xbox Series S: Amazon.co.uk: PC & Video Games
Xbox Series S: Amazon.co.uk: PC & Video Gameswww.amazon.co.uk
It's cute xfans thinks there are hundreds of millions of chips allocated to the server blades.So just pure conjecture used as excuse why they aren't selling as well as PS5? Chips are held by Microsoft to put in the cloud servers?
We know Xcloud can use slightly defective chips.
Retail
Cloud
- 28 WGPs enabled at 1675 MHz
- 26 WGPs enabled at 1825 MHz
Let's use April's numbers for some quick maths. We know PS5 is likely selling at 2:1 of Xbox Series X/S which means 4 million Xbox Series. The divide between Series X and S would be 3:1 based on launch allocations. That means 3 million X to 1 million S ~75% of all Series consoles sold is X.
- >=24 WGPs enabled at 1975 MHz
According to some reports, AMD has allocated wafer for 80K PS5 & 40K for X/SX. In terms of chips using TSMC N7 DUV with defect rate of 0.09/cm^2 or ~73% of 300mm wafer. 107 good chips or 3.21 million chips from 30K wafers that meet specs of the retail unit out of 147 dies/wafer, to 40 defective ones or 1.2 million defective. Let's assume from the 1.2 million defective ones that do not meet Retail unit specification , let's be very very conservative and say 20% meets the Cloud specifications or roughly 240K chips, not counting the retail units. Why would Microsoft be holding back chip from the retail allocations when chips from the lower binned ones would suffice?
Feelings lol. I only ever use tracking companies with a perfect reputation using point of sales data like GFK, GSD, NPD Group, Famitsu and Media Create alongside official manufacture number reported in SEC fillings. If you use anything else, you don't belong in a sales topic.So we should believe you and your feelings over a professional research company?
Apparently, instead of being happy for your corporation, you should throw jabs and one liners at the other corporation service. At least that's what i got from observing the local fanboys.Hmmm
I don't know how to feel about a multibillion corporation that doesn't know i exist selling more of its products than another multibillion corporation that doesn't know i exist.
Fanboys, help me out!
Imagine that, car forums would go ballistic with Renault sales ahahah. Nothing against Renault, i had a Megane and it was a fantastic car.It would be no different if xbox were in first place. People like to brag about the success of their consoles.
Many people have already stated it I'm sure, but I'd figure the numbers would be even more so in favor of Sony. Without GamePass there isn't as much of a reason to buy an Xbox. I like my Series X but there is no software that isn't available elsewhere, and GamePass at least gives people value in their purchase even if I generally think GamePass is meh.What would the landscape look like without gamepass?
These people have no shame.