RokkanStoned
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Oh this is glorious. Reminds me of 2012-2013 era GAF, just switched around (and with a larger gap). Even more interesting to see Digital Foundry's first multi-platform comparisons.
so getting to play a game quicker that could be compromised compared to the series x because of power is more important to you?I'll take faster loading times (with everything that comes with it) than 2 extra on paper tflops thank you very much.
Audio, while it could be nice, eh, I dunno. Maybe I need to hear it to believe it.
I totally agree. Sony just handed the generation over to microsoft. Yes, there will be some good looking games on the PS5 but the system is no where close to a generational leap. I think games will look FAR better on the Xbox.
How noticeable was it for PS4 Pro and Xbox one X? Games on both systems looked good, the difference wasn't night and day. The differences were noticeable when compared side by side but if I gave people a screenshot and asked what console it was from, people would have a hard time telling. Nobody would say which one looks bad.a 30ish percent difference in power will be noticable
I’m tired of the “side by side” talk
Except that, you know, the XSX has a faster cpu and faster Ram too. The speed of a console isn’t measured by its hard drive speed.I am happy with what i saw.
I am not happy with all these bullshit threads popping up that scream xbox wins console war and sony is dead.
We have a very powerfull xbox and a fucking fast ps5.
Both will deliver mind blowing graphics and never seen experiences.
Both have a different approach and both will be fucking awesome.
Both invest heavily in first parties and both will have their own reason to buy them.
I only want to see positive threads and i want to see all these cock wanking threads closed.
2 good days in a row to take our minds off this shit of a virus and you guys have to fight.
Soo fuckin sad.
Maybe, i still think it has to do with that Series S.its a bit of a fuck up really. overconfidence?
Name checks outTeraflops are how you measure generational leaps. Every single generation of consoles has had a massive improvement in efficiency. This means the only way to determine if a new console is a generational leap is if the TF rating is at least seven times higher than the previous one. The PS5 doesn't even come close. Teraflops is the most important factor in measuring the power of any system.
believe me, my desire was the absolute opposite, i was glad to change my gpu to keep up with a beast ps5.lol This is sad as shit. I’m glad I’m not such an asspained fanboy like this.
Last gen it was 45% L for MSFT. And no. Multiplatforms not looked significantly worse.
It won't be that much difference.
9.2 TF was real. Sony just did last minute clocks to 2.23 but that's not sustainable. That's just boost speed at certain times.
That's just not true. This PS5 TV stand accessory will almost guarantee a stable boost:
PS5 - $500
XBSX - $600
Those seem perfect to me. Don't see Sony pushing the $500 mark and if Microsoft push $600 its a big ask.
maybe they secretly spec'd series s to throw Sony off thinking that could be what they were going for and then revealed the series xMaybe, i still think it has to do with that Series S.
Oh now you're getting an XboxAnother big plus for gaming in general is I was going strictly psv if they were both 12 or psv was stronger, now I'm getting both due to Xbox having tht edge.
Okay, so you're saying this one, being the "Pro" is, as you said going to cost 600? And the yet to be announced "Base" is going to be 9TF, like you said? So not far off from the "Pro"?
Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding. The strong smell of BS coming off of your old claims and your terrible attempts to backtrack is really making it hard for me to concentrate.
it wasn't a conference to show games, the games will come though and am sure they will look great
Teraflops are how you measure generational leaps. Every single generation of consoles has had a massive improvement in efficiency. This means the only way to determine if a new console is a generational leap is if the TF rating is at least seven times higher than the previous one. The PS5 doesn't even come close. Teraflops is the most important factor in measuring the power of any system.
You need to understand that PS4 10TF are not the same as XSX 12TF. They clock higher with less CUs which means more power. MS would have to get around 20TF to match what they are doing with PS5.
I'm sure this has been said a ton of times already but if it's 10.2 TF, but requires a ridiculous clock speed of 2.23GHz to get there, then the PS5 is just NOT 10.2 TF.
There's NO WAY it can hold that clock for any meaningful amount of time.
Meanwhile if the XSX is 12.2TF with a GPU clock of 1.8GHz - that is a clock that can likely SUSTAINED.
We'll have to see what clock speed each can realistically sit, at but the TF difference is higher than 2 and probably, in reality, 3+
825GB SSD is a joke. Why not 1TB?
you can slice it anyway you want, it’s around a 30 percent power difference
so getting to play a game quicker that could be compromised compared to the series x because of power is more important to you?
again the games will be great, just multiples will defiantly be better on xbox next gen. can see call of duty going to xbox again for dlc or exclusive content againThen they shouldn’t have used it to reveal the PS5 specs to the world.
It’s a shame there’s no BC for older systems and the BC itself is barebones. MS has a much, much better BC team.
I’m sure the exclusives will be great, but I’m really not sold the hardware.
I knew when I heard talk about how many transistors were in the CU's things were looking rough haha
Show the math.you can slice it anyway you want, it’s around a 30 percent power difference
Not the kind of flop Sony was expecting heading into this gen, I’m sure.
based on the fact xbox is much more powerful by 2-3tf and a lot can be done with that, even just use that extra power for ray tracing alone to add extra shine and polishSo you think that multiplats will run 30% better no matter what?
Compromised how? Lay down a realistic situation for me, based on what we now know.
It will only support BC for 100 PS4 games at launch.....
Holy shit that's bad. BC was the main reason I was going with PS5.
Lol, by all means have it your way. But if the difference is better graphics and resolutions/performance or 4 seconds faster load times. I'll take the better performance/graphics.If I may use a comparison, when I installed a SSD into my 2012 PC suddenly the lesser performance felt meaningless.
Near instant boot up times and silent drives makes a huge difference.
So when PS5 is twice as fast in the SSD department that's where I'm putting my money into.
there’s definitely going to be pretty noticeable different between multiplat games right?
more unstable framerateSo you think that multiplats will run 30% better no matter what?
Compromised how? Lay down a realistic situation for me, based on what we now know.
Because it's a mathematical calculation of the two most important GPU features, but more teraflops isn't the only determining factor.Teraflops are how you measure generational leaps. Every single generation of consoles has had a massive improvement in efficiency. This means the only way to determine if a new console is a generational leap is if the TF rating is at least seven times higher than the previous one. The PS5 doesn't even come close. Teraflops is the most important factor in measuring the power of any system.
So here’s where my head is at right now:
would you rather have 4k/60/ultra (XsX version of a game) vs. 4k/30/ultra or 4k/60/medium/high (PS5 version of game)
there’s definitely going to be pretty noticeable different between multiplat games right?
You need to understand that PS4 10TF are not the same as XSX 12TF. They clock higher with less CUs which means more power. MS would have to get around 20TF to match what they are doing with PS5.
The Series X must be $549 or $599 then. That GPU is pretty beefy.499.
So two TFlops difference is a Generational leap?
Ok.......