CadetMahoney
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I thought no one cared about what happens in the U.S. and it was all about the worldwide figures. That's what I learnt from the NPD threads at least.
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PSM: PS4 specs more powerful than Xbox 720
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I thought no one cared about what happens in the U.S. and it was all about the worldwide figures. That's what I learnt from the NPD threads at least.
Ahh, yeah US currency.
Monopoly dollars.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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We can't assume that either of them will be a powerhouse, really.
I think the PS4 will have some pretty sweet specs. I'm actually expecting 4GB of RAM. I will be disappointed if it doesn't.
4GB...32 SPEs... and so on.
Seraphinianus
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I cracked the code....
Xbox 720....p. Xbox 720p. Have fun gouging your eyes out with that SD shit, Xbots.
Xbox 720....p. Xbox 720p. Have fun gouging your eyes out with that SD shit, Xbots.
BOM will be eaten by Kinect.
That's the scenario where there could be a bigger difference, but it also assumes Sony isn't assigning a good portion of their own budget to something other than processing power too.
We'll just have to wait and see.
If their philosophies are aligned, the timing is aligned, the price target is aligned...I expect there can't be much difference. But I agree that the first variable there is a bit of a question mark.
Welp, all I can say is, its going to be one hell of a wait until next E3.
Isn't that more 'wanting' than 'expecting'?
One begets the other.
Yeah me too. If one of the three is going for 4 GB it's probably going to be Sony though, if only because they might have an edge by being the last one out.I want 8 GB
Is that you, Tiago?I want 8 GB
I'm going by the same reasoning. Its not like I'll be shocked it it went with less than 4 GB, but I get this sneaking suspicion they want to reeeally future proof that bitch and have multi-plat games be extra polished and shiny on their system.
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Not safe to assume either, although I also believe that might happen (being the last one out, not launching a machine with 4 GB of RAM - unless you're talking about a unified memory pool of 4 GB, I think both consoles will have around that amount).
No assumptions are safe at this point, but the buzz does indicate Sony is going to be the last one out. None of the buzz indicates any of the consoles is going to be a powerhouse though
I think the Vita is a pretty good indicator of what to expect from the PS4. Affordable off the shelf parts that still provide absolutely excellent graphics. In a way the PS4 will be both cheaper, yet a more intelligently designed and powerful system (for its given time) than the PS3 ever was.
If the PS4 is going to have the same philosophy as the Vita, then it could look something like this:
- AMD Trinity quadcore processor with built in GPU with ~400 SPUs
- or hexacore version of the Wii U CPU with more cache and other goodies
- 2 GB GDDR5/XDR2 unified RAM
- 512 MB extra RAM for OS and networking stuff
- AMD GPU with some 1000+ SPUs
- AMD Trinity quadcore processor with built in GPU with ~400 SPUs
- or hexacore version of the Wii U CPU with more cache and other goodies
- 2 GB GDDR5/XDR2 unified RAM
- 512 MB extra RAM for OS and networking stuff
- AMD GPU with some 1000+ SPUs
*imokwiththis.gif*
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Vita has a lot to prove at this point, as far as its reception goes, lest Sony sees that as a pretty good indicator of what people don't necessarily want. But we're really just speculating based on very little useful info, let's wait until at least after this E3.
Phonomezer
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Well the leaked Xbox specs are bullshit so who knows what to expect?
PSM certainly doesn't.
PSM certainly doesn't.
Sounds OK. I would maybe go with highend 4 module buldozer and 3gb of ddr5.
I heard bulldozer sucks balls though...anyone else wanna chime in?
iamshadowlark
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Yea I doubt anyone is gonna touch Bulldozer.
No it isn't. Whether it's an APU or a CPU+GPU if Sony decides on AMD for the whole thing (and it's a very real possibility) it will be bulldozer-based.
DCKing - the only way I see 1000+ SPUs happening is with a late 2013 or early 2014 release, of which 2014 is too late.
3GB of DDR5 would create one of the afformentioned chips-on-motherboard problem, at least if the design stage is now.
It would be a customized version of bulldozer. One that doesn't eat 135w.
iamshadowlark
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They there is absolutely no reason for them to go full AMD, and plenty of reasons not to. I could see GPU-wise, but I'm almost positive that IBM are getting the CPUs.
Clear
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I just can't imagine Sony not offering backwards compatibility with PS3. Starting a software line-up from scratch again would be madness given the sheer cost of development.
I can't imagine CELL's peculiar architecture being easy to emulate, so the way I see it they'll be sticking with some deriviation of it for the forseeable future.
I can't imagine CELL's peculiar architecture being easy to emulate, so the way I see it they'll be sticking with some deriviation of it for the forseeable future.
NemesisPrime
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They just wanne have a bigger d*ck.
Either Sony or MS are toying with the notion of full-out AMD. That is not speculation.
Death Dealer
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My sense was late 2013 anyways, but I hope I'm wrong.
weekend_warrior
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Yeah but if we're comparing the next-box to the PS4 then we should take into consideration what MS is doing and their future strategy too. And in the past 2 or 3 years they've begun a huge shift into the casual market, because that's where they think the money is. So you could easily speculate that the next-box will see a minimum power increase (similar to the gamecube > wii jump) so that they can offer it much cheaper then Sony does the PS4, say $249 vs $399.
well of course, if that's case then we won't see uber ps4 either.
i dont think that will be the case however of 720/ps4 being only marginally more powerful than their predecessors. they'll see a sig bump but not that sig.
Bulldozer sucks balls when compared to a Core i7. When compared to previous x86 architectures or most PowerPC architectures IBM has it's much more powerful. It also doesn't help that Bulldozer's weird architecture isn't helping them win benchmarks much, but a peculiar architecture isn't as much of a problem when used in a console.
Looking at the AMD's Tahiti chip (HD7970) it has 2048 SPUs resulting in a 378mm^2 chip. If they go for half the SPU count and cut the the bus size to 128 bit, they could probably get a chip less than 200mm^2, which is a decent chunk less than RSX was. So I do think it's possible for them to go for 1024 SPUs, even if they were launching this year.
Some info on the devkit in the Wii U speculation thread seems to indicate an SPU count of at least (the equivalent of) 512 on the Wii U GPU. So if there's going to be a significant difference between the consoles, I'd say that Sony needs to look at 1024 SPUs or higher.
Slappers Only
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Well, seeing as how being "more powerful" this gen has worked out so well for them, I could see that being the case again.
Nobody is going to care either way.
Nobody is going to care either way.
iamshadowlark
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LOL and where is your proof of this?
Dcking said:
You know whats funny? On B3d there was a vid from the Ghostbusters guys where the 6 year old cell smoked the i7 at physics. I still say cell or at least the SPE's will find their way into the PS4. Maybe in the manner that Gofreak preposed.
Grampa Simpson
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My dad can beat up your dad!
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Lord Ghirahim
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The rumors and Hirai's assurance that PS4 won't be at E3 are pointing to a late 2013 release. At the earliest.
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My father won?
Nope. I'm pretty sure my dad could still beat your dad up.
Good. The HD twins are still selling at price points above $200. Third parties are still releasing big games like Assassin's Creed III, Halo 4, Call of Duty 9, and GTA V over the next 12 months. They could both wait another year if they want.
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