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Its really interesting. Even with this level of ineptitude from Sony, some people will nonchalantly shrug it off as no big deal, and continue to do business with them. Sure, the sky isn't falling. It's not the end of the world. But to completely not give a shit is odd. Why willingly do business with a company that is this fucking incompetent?

Sony's incompetence is at the lower end of reasons not to do business with them. I certainly knew just what kind of company I was dealing with when I bought my PS3 and i'm nothing has changed in that regard.

 

[RustyNails]

While I understand Sony's mishandling of the whole situation and their ineptness is unforgivable (and deserves the scorn), I'm more disappointed with people vocally critical of Sony (with "fuck sony", "brb buying xbox" posts) not saying a darned thing about hackers. You don't realize the fact that no network is 100% secured out there, not even XBL, Steam, Amazon, Ebay, etc. Sony went after GeoHot, and pissed off basement dwelling hacking scum who are now directly responsible for your credit card info being leaked. Yes, Sony deserves every yell and scream for not fortifying user information. But remember who caused this as well. Just trying to keep things in perspective rather than just "fuck sony" and "fuck hackers" posts.

 

[Adam Prime]

All will be forgiven and forgotten by E3.

The media who report this are ADULTS, who understands Sony's situation. No over-reactive forum posters.

 

[Rewrite]

that senator probably just bought SOCOM and is pissed.

okay, I laughed out loud. Thanks for this.

lol, the hack log wow.

All will be forgiven and forgotten by E3.

The media who report this are ADULTS, who understands Sony's situation. No over-reactive forum posters.

No.

 

[Griffin]

If true, anyone still want to defend Sony?

It took them 5 years?

 

[Four_Chamber]

Wow that hacklog is really something else

I think this once again shows that Sony is first and foremost a hardware company.

 

[Ferrio]

People are quick to slam Sony, but they are doing something about it. Give them some credit.

... doing something after the fact when they're in such deep shit. Ya let's give them a hand for trying to cover their ass.

 

[lupinko]

My biggest issue as many of you passionately put it is that it took Sony this long to figure out our data was compromised. I am sure they knew this very early on, but for some reason witheld reporting this to it's users.

Probably the procedure for the investigation when they spoke with the outside security company with regards to this matter.

 

[JWong]

If true, anyone still want to defend Sony?

You believe some blog site?

 

[darkwing]

PSN hack log:

http://shockwavelounge.blogspot.com/2011/04/playstation-network-log-of-hacker.html

wow can anyone confirm this?

rather than a blogsite

 

[Dominican Power]

MS is going to capitalize off of this

 

[bob page]

that senator probably just bought SOCOM and is pissed.

I definitely understand his pain.

 

[Paches]

identity theft is juicy news. especially at this scale.

Mostly because it instills fear in to the public, which is one of the main tenants of media these days.

 

[Plinko]

All will be forgiven and forgotten by E3.

The media who report this are ADULTS, who understands Sony's situation. No over-reactive forum posters.

Wow. I've got to be quite honest, I find much of GAF much more "adult" in their opinions than many in the gaming journalism industry.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

All will be forgiven and forgotten by E3.

The media who report this are ADULTS, who understands Sony's situation. No over-reactive forum posters.

Really? Whatever man.

 

[Uno Venova]

how credible is that blog?

 

[-PXG-]

http://forums.sarcasticgamer.com/showpost.php?p=645846&postcount=734

Please read up.

Sony was was entirely right to shut down PSN. I'm not questioning that course of action one bit.

However, regardless of what kind of data was compromised, they failed to give their customers fair warning as to what was going on. You could argue that they didn't want create mass hysteria over nothing. But at the same time, wouldn't you want to be safe rather than sorry? There is nothing wrong with giving people a little more heads up and simple methods of protecting themselves, in the event shit really did hit the fan.

That's all I'm saying.

 

[TTP]

Because it has content you want?

I'm not sure I get the 'who would do business with Sony' thing... if they have stuff you want, why would you forgo that? There are safe ways to buy things on PSN, i.e. prepaid cards.

It is a big fucking deal, I am annoyed, I'm probably going to be changing my CC, I've been changing passwords on some accounts etc. But as long as Sony has content I want I will "do business with them". It won't change my consumption behaviour, to do that would just be to punish myself really. It'll change HOW I purchase that content - I just won't tie a CC to my Sony/PSN account in the future.

That was my point indeed. Albeit I will keep my CC tied to the PSN account *especially* because of what happened. I'm that crazy to believe they have learned the lesson

(And my CC has a credit limit anyway - and I get email notifications of every transaction )

 

[herod]

Because it has content you want?

I'm not sure I get the 'who would do business with Sony' thing... if they have stuff you want, why would you forgo that? There are safe ways to buy things on PSN, i.e. prepaid cards.

Because others also have stuff I want. This is meant to be a fun hobby, this kind of stress is counter to the whole point of it. I'll side with competence.

 

[Knux-Future]

Perhaps this makes me a horrible person but I want PSN back so I can buy Arcana Hearts 3.


Going to hell in a handbasket and loving it.

 

[pantyhelmet]

Surely Obama will be at fault.

Billy corgan avatar AND Fox news scapegoat mentioned..you won the internet in two moves.

 

[Garjon]

I'm really unsure about that log, it seems to be sourced from some random PS Benelux website. Is there no better source available?
I know Sony are incompetent and all, but do people really think it was that easy to hack?

 

[-viper-]

While I understand Sony's mishandling of the whole situation and their ineptness is unforgivable (and deserves the scorn), I'm more disappointed with people vocally critical of Sony (with "fuck sony", "brb buying xbox" posts) not saying a darned thing about hackers. You don't realize the fact that no network is 100% secured out there, not even XBL, Steam, Amazon, Ebay, etc. Sony went after GeoHot, and pissed off basement dwelling hacking scum who are now directly responsible for your credit card info being leaked. Yes, Sony deserves every yell and scream for not fortifying user information. But remember who caused this as well. Just trying to keep things in perspective rather than just "fuck sony" and "fuck hackers" posts.

Spot on.

Fucking Geohot.

 

[vilmer_]

Beware, the 15 year old hacking militia.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

While I understand Sony's mishandling of the whole situation and their ineptness is unforgivable (and deserves the scorn), I'm more disappointed with people vocally critical of Sony (with "fuck sony", "brb buying xbox" posts) not saying a darned thing about hackers. You don't realize the fact that no network is 100% secured out there, not even XBL, Steam, Amazon, Ebay, etc. Sony went after GeoHot, and pissed off basement dwelling hacking scum who are now directly responsible for your credit card info being leaked. Yes, Sony deserves every yell and scream for not fortifying user information. But remember who caused this as well. Just trying to keep things in perspective rather than just "fuck sony" and "fuck hackers" posts.

I say time to just go full nuclear from now on. The moment CFW is confirmed online, shut down the network preemptively and rebuild it anyway!

Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Cth]

 

[SolarPowered]

Just changed the password info on my several online accounts. I can't remember which email address I used on that damned account so I've got to cover my bases.

Sometimes I feel like I should just go the Nintendo/PC route. Console gaming online is getting expensive and alternatives are not working out that well. Maybe it would be best to just use my PC for my online gaming needs...

>_>

While I understand Sony's mishandling of the whole situation and their ineptness is unforgivable (and deserves the scorn), I'm more disappointed with people vocally critical of Sony (with "fuck sony", "brb buying xbox" posts) not saying a darned thing about hackers. You don't realize the fact that no network is 100% secured out there, not even XBL, Steam, Amazon, Ebay, etc. Sony went after GeoHot, and pissed off basement dwelling hacking scum who are now directly responsible for your credit card info being leaked. Yes, Sony deserves every yell and scream for not fortifying user information. But remember who caused this as well. Just trying to keep things in perspective rather than just "fuck sony" and "fuck hackers" posts.

I think it's a given that people are pissed at hackers.

Perhaps this makes me a horrible person but I want PSN back so I can buy Arcana Hearts 3.

Going to hell in a handbasket and loving it.

I want to buy this and that Siren game on PSN, but incidents like this one make it harder for stingy and paranoid people like me...

 

[TTP]

how credible is that blog?

Not sure, but the link to the log file leads to an "untrusted site". I wouldn't click that

 

[FLEABttn]

Surely Obama will be at fault.

THANKS OBAMA!

 

[Unhandled Exception]

If that log is real, we've all been giving our credit card info to the little kid on the corner with his own lemonade stand this whole time.

 

[lupinko]

You believe some blog site?

Shaddup yous corporate shill, dem blogs are the real deal! consumer freedoms and all that jazz.

 

[bob page]

You, sir, win this thread.

 

[graywolf323]

I find that log doubtful, if it was so easy to hack it wouldn't have taken so long

 

[Rewrite]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5659494926_07070655ca_z.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
Hahahaha.

 

[lifa-cobex]

All will be forgiven and forgotten by E3.

The media who report this are ADULTS, who understands Sony's situation. No over-reactive forum posters.

No it wont. In-fact i think all eye's will be on Sony to see the reaction to this.

Have you seen the news today? It's been on the radio all day too. Believe me when i say that the average joe is thinking the worst of Sony right now.

 

[Ferrio]

I find that log doubtful, if it was so easy to hack it wouldn't have taken so long

Ya i'm not buying it either.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Yes hackers fucking suck, that can't be said enough.
Sony still fucked the fuck up.

 

[LugNut74]

Oh boy this is funny. Still upset this happened though.

 

[RustyNails]

Ok, wtf. Javascript injections? It's that easy to break into PSN?

 

[Feorax]

Wow. I've got to be quite honest, I find much of GAF much more "adult" in their opinions than many in the gaming journalism industry.

I think he was referring to the BBC reports etc, not gaming "journalism" as it were.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

People who are blaming the hackers for opening up the hardware and defending Sony's actions - a question:

If opening up hardware leads to hacks like this, then why hasn't Steam been hacked a billion times by now and its personal customer data plastered all over the net?

Spoiler

The answer is because Valve is competent.

 

[Paches]

]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5659494926_07070655ca_z.jpg

You just won the thread.

 

[spats]

kaz.jpg

Trying too hard.

 

[jergrah]

Hope whoever got their hands on my JPN and EU account info doesnt go looking for me at
Old Trafford Stadium in Greater Manchester, England or Sega HQ in Tokyo

 

[Stumpokapow]

Sony went after GeoHot, and pissed off basement dwelling hacking scum who are now directly responsible for your credit card info being leaked.

I'm not really sure how the two are connected.

You purport, in your post, that other companies are also subject to cyber attacks that result in data theft. Who cause those attacks? Basement dwellers? Chinese cyber-terrorists? Eastern european mafia types? Sleek, experienced western black market types?

With a DDoS you can be relatively sure that the person doing it has a specific beef with you, and in the case of modern tools like LOIC you can be reasonably sure that it's a group of many non-technical people who are pissed at you for whatever reason. But with an account breach, I'm not sure why parsimony would suggest that option over full time, for-profit fraudsters?

 

[bangai-o]

Just changed the password info on my bla bla bla bla and info

lol thanks for gathering all your accounts in one nice little post!

 

[RustyNails]

THANKS OBAMA!

It's "THANKS BARACK"

 

[snorggy]

Its really interesting. Even with this level of ineptitude from Sony, some people will nonchalantly shrug it off as no big deal, and continue to do business with them. Sure, the sky isn't falling. It's not the end of the world. But to completely not give a shit is odd. Why willingly do business with a company that is this fucking incompetent?

proof of their incompetence please? you know PSN has been up for years right? We don't know how many previous attempts to hack the PSN there were and were successfully defended against... we don't know how the PSN was hacked this time... declaring Sony as incompetent seems pretty premature given what we know.

 

[alphaNoid]

general ignorance in this thread..

General ignorance? Please explain.

 

[Uno Venova]

Ok, wtf. Javascript injections? It's that easy to break into PSN?

I think if it was that easy it would have been done a long time ago.