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[Vibranium]

People need to to tweet Yoshida to get some concrete confirmation and whether this decision is set in stone or not.

They should have kept the existing model or thrown in extra online features instead. This needs to be reconsidered, time for a new Twitter campaign?

 

[Danielsan]

My only real gripe with the PS4. This stings. Other than that, they bagged and tagged Microsoft.

 

[Goldrusher]

Look at this way...

PS3: €599

PS4: €599 with 4 years online, 4 years Plus and 48 free PS4-games

 

[Painraze]

jesus christ, stop whining and get PS+

its a fucking amazing service

 

[krae_man]

I don't see the issue. It's only for multiplayer(Re not required for Netflix etc) and you get PS4 IGC games including Drive Club day one and a new game every month.

 

[web01]

Extremely disappointing, I pay for plus anyone for the games but this pisses me off.
Only negative of PS announcement for me.

 

[ConradCervantes]

Fuck, Sony, why you gotta be giving me free games along with this paid multiplayer? Assholes, anyways...

 

[GeoramA]

Paywalls suck ass, but I assure you PS+ is very much worth it. Signed up until 2015 and I'm very happy that I did.

 

[NullPointer]

Lol, cant believe people are mad.

Paying for peer to peer gaming is fucking ludicrous. Always has been.

PSN+ provides more value than Gold ever did though. Its a kiss before a kick to the nuts.

 

[Spongebob]

Fuck that sucks.

 

[Galang]

Really the only bad thing out the conference for me, but I barely play online so eh.

 

[Slime]

This really sucks, but with no DRM and such a great price point I can forgive them. Helps that Plus offers such amazing deals.

Paying for online is shitty as hell in general, though. Very disappointed.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

 

[ibun]

60 bucks a year is not much...i get it BUT, why should i pay for online play, for something that happens on my box with my internet connection . i dont play online much often BUT this means no online play at all

 

[BadAss2961]

Very disappointed in Sony for that.

$399 helps, but damn...

 

[Blearth]

I'm done with consoles.

Like, forever.

Fuck Nintendo. Fuck Sony. Fuck Microsoft.

 

[ultimatepunchrod]

I'm still fine with this. Unlike MS who I thought was going the PS+ route by throwing in free games every month for XB1, Sony is actually still giving Plus members one. So, I'm okay with this, honestly. If it gives me Gaikai access and a free game every month, I'm good.

 

[paperheart]

Sucks.

At least PS+ is a great service, though. In the end, I'll deal with it. At least #PS4NoDRM worked.

 

[TimeEffect]

I'm OK with this.

I was OK with XBL when 360 first debuted, I'm OK with + solely for the value. If the games continue the way they do for the IGC, not subscribing seems like the more illogical thing to do.

Sony makes their money back, gamers make their money back. Everybody wins.

 

[Computer]

MS has dedicated servers for all MP games. Sony can keep their 5 a month P2P.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Kaz is like deal with it...

But that's still 100 euros cheaper than xbox.. 450 with +. vs 550.

MS has dedicated servers for all MP games. Sony can keep their 5 a month P2P.

Haha, like on PS3 which has more dedicated servers than xbla for free?

 

[Instro]

Shame about this. At least PS+ is cheaper than LIVE, although I don't do a ton of online gaming on consoles.

 

[linko9]

Bummer, but from a purely selfish perspective, I don't play games online on the PS3, so it doesn't really affect me, other than discouraging me from starting in the future.

 

[Odrion]

It was expected, but you do get like four free games at launch including Drive Club. And then there's the barrage of free titles that is there already.

PS+ is a pretty good service!

 

[Woggerman]

Awesome. Just preordered mine. Though, figuring in PS+ its $460 for the first year. The Xbox One is $499 which includes a 1 year Gold membership.

 

[MeBecomingI]

Worst thing I've heard all day... fuck you Sony.

I love PS+ but to put online behind a paywall is a fucking slap in the face to everyone. You go out and tell the world how much you care about all gamers and then punch in the gut with the fact that you have to pay to play online though.

Fucking dumb. Really hurt the conference overall.

 

[ElFly]

I blame 360 Live Gold users.

Thank you very much you guys.

 

[devonraynor]

already think plus is a great value, so not a real big deal for me

 

[Az]

not happy about this.

 

[Conciliator]

I had no idea people would be that upset about this. I might get PS+ and I don't even play online multiplayer. Sony's working out their profit strategy like Microsoft and any other corporation.

 

[Satchel]

Knew it. I have plus anyway, no biggie.

 

[Htown]

easily the worst thing announced in the conference, but the upside is at least they still give you all the PS+ free shit

 

[NullPointer]

MS has dedicated servers for all MP games. Sony can keep their 5 a month P2P.

Was this confirmed?

It'd be funny as shit if Gold was the better deal, with PS3 being the better console.

I blame 360 Live Gold users.

Thank you very much you guys.

That blame is absolutely deserved. Making paid peer to peer a success. Jesus. But then Sony is equally to blame.

 

[MicH]

PS+ is amazing already, so every PS4 owner should really have it. No problem here

 

[Vibranium]

Hopefully journalists press Sony execs hard on this issue, I'd like to hear more information than a quick blurb from Tretton.

 

[Hazanko]

jesus christ, stop whining and get PS+

its a fucking amazing service

Fuck off with this shit seriously. It's really starting to piss me off and I'm not easy to temper. I pay for plus but I also pay monthly to play DCUO and that's a free to play game (I get added stuff for sub), as well, there are many who don't pay, nor should they and it's a kick in the balls for that type of game because they'll have free to play PS3 players and pay to play PS4 ones?!

I also like having a choice. I pay for plus because it's worth it. The issue is, if it ever becomes not worth the money, I'm fucked and so are you and rest of the people.

 

[dark_inferno]

I dont want free games that im not allowed to keep forever. I dont want any subscription ever. I dont want Facebook. I dont want Gaikai. Throw the Gaikai shit away and then nobody has to pay for online mp.

 

[bud]

 

[StopMakingSense]

Eh. can't win 'em all.

 

[luxarific]

I'm assuming "Free PS4 game each month" means free as long as you subscribe to PSN+, just as it is now.

This is not necessarily a dealbreaker for me. I just hope that PSN subscriptions go on sale much more than they have in the past. I've only ever once seen a one-year PSN subscription go on sale for $40. One-year Live subscriptions go on sale for $35 routinely.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Totally figured it would be the case.

 

[M.D]

I'm already subscribed for PS+ till 9/14, but this shit seriously sucks.

The thing they should have done was adding value to PS+ with Music/Video Unlimited for free or things in that fashion

 

[Fey]

This was the one thing that really disappointed me. I guess when they said they're keeping their policies/games the same as they have been with PS3, they didn't include online gaming.

 

[Willkiller]

Slight bump but, unlike Live, PS+ has legitimate fantastic value so I'm not at all bothered by this.

 

[RukusProvider]

Weak shit trying to sneak this one by Sony.

Lets see those pitch forks boys.

 

[Guy Legend]

I don't mind. Online multiplayer isn't a necessity so don't subscribe if you don't need it. With the popularity of Xbox Live, this had to be coming.

On the plus side, 399 price point =win.

 

[RoboPlato]

This blows. I'm a fan of Plus so I would have a subscription any way but it still sucks.

 

[Videoneon]

Yeah I was fucking skeptical after I saw that one slide.

Goddammit.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

I don't get why they would add that text under a video that is supposed to foster good will.

 

[mugwhump]

Grrr, damn. I know WiiU won't be getting the fightans, so I might need to cough up if I want online SCVI :/