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Racists Getting Fired
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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This passive aggressiveness is killing me
You have danced around the question from your first shitty post. I don't give two flying fucks about their kids, I am not the person on the internet calling people niggers. You seem to think that shit is perfectly fine because that person has a kid. That kid is not my responsibility. So I ask you again should people with kids not have to face consequences for their actions, or are you only okay when it's racism?
Now, was that hard?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Are you going to answer the question or did you just want to say he did not care?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Racists with kids are free from consequences
Spread the word! Just have kids and you can irrationally hate people because of their skin color and/or place of birth, it's all good
lol work
Spread the word! Just have kids and you can irrationally hate people because of their skin color and/or place of birth, it's all good
lol work
We shouldn't try to get people fired because being fired is awful and makes a whole family miserable, not just that person. Unless they constitute a threat to someone or they're gigantic annoying assholes at work. Certainly not I would say for having thoughts outside the workplace.
Even with the annoying assholes at the workplace, my coworkers and I would rather try to explain to them what they're doing wrong several times before ever reporting them. Getting someone fired should be the absolute last option. I just feel like someone who would do that would be the lowest of the low. I feel bad even when I see assholes I dislike getting fired. Maybe being an asshole isn't something they can even control.
In that vein, I think racists would tend to have a low IQ, and if you say racist things on social media and attach your name and work to them, you have to have a low IQ. Doesn't this like feel too close to punishing people (and their families) for low intelligence?
What?! Then what was the point of the whole argument?
So you're a coward. Bye, you and your stupid shit won't be missed. Thanks for not contributing shit to the thread.
ryutaro's mama
Member
"Daddy, why didn't Santa come to our house this year?"
"Because...the internet conspired to steal daddy's job. Daddy was just posting there, using his god given right to privacy and freedom of speech."
"Santa hates freedom?"
"Yes he does, son. Yes he does."
Its like he just walked into the room, dropped the mic, then walked out.
Argument? I was never arguing. In fact I said I had no intention of arguing several times.
My point is simply this: Like the racist pukes who made theses post in the first place must suffer the unintended consequences for their actions, so too must those crusading to get them fired must be cognizant of the unintended consequnces of their actions. If they are, and have deemed them acceptable, then so be it. But dont sugar coat it with talk of Xmas presents.
seriously screw you pal. get out with your crap. lol
Haha, oh wow.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I think this has more to do with the company not wanting to have its image associated with racism. You're gonna lose business if that happens. It's not like racism is a "maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong" opinion. It's pretty much just wrong.
No one was sugar coating shit, genius. If you knew how to read, you would see I was quoting someone else who brought up Christmas presents. That wasn't even my argument, but you somehow think you won something because I don't care about theoretical kids of racist? Come the fuck on.
MHWilliams
Member
Entirely possible. Don't have the wherewithal or responsibility to handle their situation beyond ceasing their negative output in public. If they learn beyond that, that's dependent on their local sphere of loved ones and community.
It happens. People do a number of actions that society considers negative, thus ending in loss of employment. I'm unsure why hate speech should be separate category.
The employees retain their right to say what they want. They do not retain their right to a job. You're conflating two different ideas.
Children are frequently negatively affected by the negative actions of their parents. Do you believe that isn't or shouldn't be the case?
I'm not fine with the former.
So no one with children should be fired or go to prison or face any negative consequences that may affect their children of any kind, yes?
Agree and I'll be pretty comfortable thinking of you as rather foolish from here on out.
Disagree and I'll be pretty comfortable thinking of you as a closeted racist from here on out.
Either way, as far as I'm concerned, you're opinions are pretty worthless.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
This thread..lol.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
What the fuck LOL.
Funny how it's so much easier for some to sympathize with unemployed racists than the minorities these people are so ready to hold back.
MaddenNFL64
Member
I'm on the side of the internet vigilantes. Get 'em!
ryutaro's mama
Member
It's very telling. Folks are bending over backwards to garner sympathy for a group of people that would shit on people for nothign more than being a different shade of skin.
It is pretty easy to guess why they would be sympathetic to racists or not want racists to face consequences for their actions.
Edit: Unnecessary.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Hey, at least he owned it.
Most people on the interwebs will argue into infinity, even when clearly wrong.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Did Hitler come up yet?
Yeah you're right, that was Unnecessary.
heliosRAzi
Banned
But what about the racists' dogs? If their owners get fired, they won't be able to get those Beggin Strips
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Can someone tell my why having kids gives you a free pass to be an asshole with no consequences? And why these apparently "caring parents" didn't have enough sense not to say incendiary, potentially job threatening shit, on a public forum? Or are they also excuse for that lapse of judgement because kids?
Well he has now. Thanks.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
"y'all can't fire me I have kids."
Now that you are on the same page, let's actually discuss what you were saying.
Let's for argument's sake, say the Christmas presents argument was mine. Why are you being sympathetic towards theoretical kids while ignoring the real people experiencing racism?
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Anyone have a synopsis of this thread? Got Dang, this thread exploded. My take is, it's your first amendment right to say stupid shit, and it's other's first amendment right to call you out on it.
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Kids are the key to true job security
Cyclical argument after cyclical argument.
People defending racists
People telling people to have sympathy for racists
People using theoretical kids to excuse racism
People far more patient than me trying to reason with stupid as shit arguments like; "racism is abstract"
Basically a shitfest.
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First Amendment doesn't apply to any of this.
Super_Cobra
Member
A lot of people screaming "freedom of speech". Do you guys even think about it before you even throw that out there?
Let's says Walmart (very strict company), doesn't like this, do you think they would want to associate themselves with these people? They signed a contract with that company and they can terminate if they think they will give a bad image to the company.
Are people going too far reporting the underdeveloped humans? Yes.
Let's says Walmart (very strict company), doesn't like this, do you think they would want to associate themselves with these people? They signed a contract with that company and they can terminate if they think they will give a bad image to the company.
Are people going too far reporting the underdeveloped humans? Yes.
Boom Boom Pow
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and why is everyone shouting freedom of speech? Freedom of speech means what the government can't do to you. It's not what other, private entity can do to you.
If you shout racist things, you can sure do that as it's your freedom and you won't go to jail.
But if i'm your employer, you can damn well be sure it is also my freedom of speech to say, "you're fired".
If you shout racist things, you can sure do that as it's your freedom and you won't go to jail.
But if i'm your employer, you can damn well be sure it is also my freedom of speech to say, "you're fired".
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I basically summed it up on page 35:
This was posted on the internet by Boone, of his own free will, in public.
The blog hosting that image thinks maybe Boone's supervisors at Food Lion should know about that.
The above is being minimized and set aside for the sake of calling time out to repeatedly remind people of this.
http://allmymetaphors.tumblr.com
In which college student Hannah Beth had reports sent to her supervisors at school, and an investigation is underway, even though she was simply taking a selfie while wearing a cosmetic facial mask.
What keeps happening is the people constantly throwing the allmymetaphors link up in the thread like Zack Morris calling a time-out are defocusing the conversation on preventing legitimate hate speech like Boone's by holding the people making that speech responsible for their actions, and suggesting the people who are trying to maintain that focus are unfeeling and insensitive for not renouncing their support for those who notified Blakes supervisor, and instead spending that time and energy to figure out how to make life a little easier for Hannah Beth.
However, actually READING the tumblr in question, it seems Hannah herself seems to understand that one can feel shitty for someone innocent getting caught in the crossfire while still supporting the methodology in question.
Hannah said:
So what's happening here in this thread are people keep using Hannah as a bludgeon (when they're not simply proceeding with an onslaught of misguided and bad analogies as a substitute for using her) to tell people that they're misguided, unfeeling, thoughtless and inconsiderate for supporting efforts to prevent virulent, blatant racism being spread, without actually paying attention to the fact that while Hannah is having a harder time of life right now due to the mistake being made by the person running that blog, she fundamentally agrees with the people in this thread who are having her blog thrown in their face as if it's some unbeatable trump card of internet debate.
There are people in this thread who are taking her story and using it to validate their devaluing of this:
In return for fostering an atmosphere where people understand that what's really important isn't preventing public displays of hate speech, but that innocent white people might be inconvenienced, and that's sad.
That's basically what happened.
edit: well, actually no, once Hannah could no longer be used as a proper cudgel, someone brought up microwaved babies, and then from there, it became about the suffering of the hypothetical imaginary children of racists. But in the end, it was still the same general divide: People who think it's cool to be notifying employers that their employees are using hate speech online vs.people who are more concerned with whether some poor white person might be accidentally hurt by accusations they were using hate speech.
adamsappel
Member
I love how we can have a 40+ page thread wherein won't somebody think of the poor racist's children, but when we talk about fast-food workers or waitstaff not bringing your order out fast enough, fuck 'em, find another job.
RyougaSaotome
Member
I just read through this entire thread and I don't even know what's what anymore.
Using kids to excuse racism? What even the fuck??
Using kids to excuse racism? What even the fuck??
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