Same, it's easy to get really bored in it. I just play poker and bluff the river like a motherfucker
I think you hit the nail on the head. Lots of western games are guilty of this. It’s like they forget that they’re making a game and spend all their time and resources on everything except gameplay.It's frustrated Hollywood movie director syndrome.
These people don't want to make video games. That's the fundamental problem. They want to "tell a story."
And it's dull. Dull as fuck.
You play it at all? It got me into poker and I watch tournaments now
I don't really understand where there opinions come from. I had a hell of a time with the game just immersing myself in the story, hunting and gathering. I thought it was super fun. I don't really understand how I wound up having an opinion so different from so many people.
I love poker. I used to play twice a month for about 12 years.
Where I’m originally from we had some pretty decent 2-5 NL Hold Em games (That’s the highest I could afford. Never sat down at a high stakes game). Where I live now has a weird law where the maximum bet can’t be more than 100 bucks. So basically you’re playing 1-2-100 or 2-5-100 Spread Limit. At higher limits it basically just becomes 100 dollar bets and 100 dollar raises at every stage. Very hard to protect your hand
Wanna make it clear, I don’t consider myself a good player. I lose more than I win.
Had a couple lucky nights. It’s a fun feeling when you’re running hot
Just what different people want from their gaming time.I don't really understand where there opinions come from. I had a hell of a time with the game just immersing myself in the story, hunting and gathering. I thought it was super fun. I don't really understand how I wound up having an opinion so different from so many people.
Free will is a crazy thing
But that's the case with every game that ever comes out. No matter how good the game is there always some people out there who are not going to like the game like everybody else. This why "overrated" lost its entire meaning to me.seems like after the initial excitement wore off more and more players are feeling a bit bored and disappointed in the game...it still sounds like a very good game but not as great as people were expecting
Felt the same way myself, the controls and mission design and it’s failstates turn me off, don’t really enjoy the characters either. I’m sure the players’ reviews don’t live up to rockstar’s expectation either. I wish they will go back to the 3 year development cycle and release at least 2 of their big title every gen, it’s crazy how thy decide to not do gta 6. Perhaps the gta online is already generating enough income for them and they’re not so keen on releasing a sequel anymore.
Those are the people who will make their voices heard. You won't hear people shouting from the roofs and make constant threads about how amazing the game really is. Most people find the game amazing. There is a vocal minority that doesn't like the slower pace.
That's their own fault, the game is a western in every sense of the way. So yes it takes a long time to get going, and then takes a longer time to finish and come to it's conclusion. It's not afraid to take it slow and drown you in atmosphere.
You should get it if you think you will enjoy it. It's a cowboy simulator. Take that for what you will.
"the controls and mission design and it’s failstates turn me off,"
This.
I hate when its because you didn't kill someone a certain way even with them still dying. The controls are just horrid, I've had moments where I'm trying to get on my horse and he starts kidnapping someone.....real story lol A mission I just did he has to jump on a stage coach, but I got it to stop...tried to get on and he wouldn't do it even with the damn thing stopped....I then got on my horse and jump from the horse to the stage coach.....WHILE IT WAS STILL STOPPED soooooo why on earth are they having me do this crap when the point is to just get inside, not JUMPING from the horse, it made no sense and felt so poorly designed and thought out as if the team didn't even play their own game.
The transition from day to night is really bad, like its happening in seconds and it looks like crap compared to something like Horizon which had some of my favorite transitions from day to night etc
The narrative of the game is a joke and all over the place. They are making it seem as if you can choose to be good or bad.....yet the damn character is telling you stuff like "Make sure no one gets hurt guys" ??? WTF? Soooooo you folks are outlaws right? Then you get on the mission and the game like "You can choose to let them go" can I though? Cause sounds to me like the game has already made that choice for me and I was right.
The whole game goes on to have Arthur pretending to be some boy scout while confessing to be a killer outlaw at the same time.
Example. You get a mission where the gang goes to mansion, kills like 50 dudes and cops and Dutch kills the dude they kidnapped, the whole gang acts like "WOW, DUTCH IS crazy bro, can't believe HE KILLED THAT 1 guy"
(Game decides to ignore the 50 dudes you just killed including police) The game keeps flip flopping on them making them seem as if they are indeed about that outlaw life, then pretending to be this band of good guys that just steals and doesn't kill.....
The best thing about Red Dead 2 might just be the graphics and setting. The story is just awful and only seems to be good for a few lolz, narrative is just completely screwed up with a character that legit at one point states "I've killed for less" also him "you taught me not to kill in cold blood Dutch" Sooooooo yea. Its just a joke and anyone trying to claim its a 10/10 or GOTY etc has some massive blinders on. I bought every GTA after 3 day 1, bought Red Dead 1 and 2 day 1, but I won't pretend as if this game doesn't have massive issues as many seem to want to ignore because of the teams popularity. Maybe we wouldn't be having such issues on a game as major as Red Dead 2, if those reviews actually reflected those issues.
I mean I just can't get over the outlaw shocked at folks killing all whole going on missions killing 50 dudes no issue.....
Something is very broken with that story.
The controls are just horrid
It's not made for the gaming ADHD crowd who needs instant gratification at every corner. Let's just say that.
And it won't be everyone's cup of tea. But it's a cowboy simulator. If that doesn't appeal to you than the game probably isn't for you.
It's a slow game, just like any western tale should be.
It's not made for the gaming ADHD crowd who needs instant gratification at every corner. Let's just say that.
And it won't be everyone's cup of tea. But it's a cowboy simulator. If that doesn't appeal to you than the game probably isn't for you.
It's a slow game, just like any western tale should be.
I felt the exact same with Red Dead Redemption 1. I'm about 20% into it and it's a great title, but I feel I'm just going through it to go through with it.
A little, yes. Can't lie. But if you take out that expectation, and come up with your own, you can subvert the disappointment.After reading this thread it has piqued my interest to be honest.
I totally disregarded the game because I thought it would be the same as the first RDR and similar to all other open world RPGs where I find it difficult to immerse in the game and just end up going through the motions with the whole "travel here, do this, travel there do that, fight someone, travel back and get a reward" to progress the story before losing interest.
I like the idea of a slow burner where you are doing whatever you want at your own pace to build up to something. Although from the sounds of it there is very little jeopardy in the game?
For those who are enjoying the slow pace of the cowboy's life in RDR2, does it not feel pointless if there is no real penalty for playing it as a survival type role playing game?
Maybe you're a cowboy in beautiful environments but I'm not. Gaming is about escapism as well and this is pretty far from my daily routines.Never understood why people want more realism in their games. Real life IS tedious and boring, that's why we play games to get away from it.
I usually only have 2-3 hours max an evening to play, so I started rdr with a goal in mind like "complete one hunting requirement for the next upgrade bag" or "complete one story mission" or "run thru one treasure map"For those who are enjoying the slow pace of the cowboy's life in RDR2, does it not feel pointless if there is no real penalty for playing it as a survival type role playing game?
Impressions like these make me wonder if I'll get it for pc. They should have released it at the same time to trick more eager pc players. As the days go by the hype is fading and more people are coming away saying it's just boring.
A little, yes. Can't lie. But if you take out that expectation, and come up with your own, you can subvert the disappointment.
What I mean by that is, now that I've completed the main story, I want to go back and successfully hunt one of every animal in the compendium.. So I don't need to hunt to eat, but I do have to hunt to accomplish my goal.
There's still a lot of unexplored stuff on the map. I want to explore some of it on foot, without the horse. There's no reward for doing it, except the fun of seeing the world in a more deliberate manner.
Sometimes, for me, the most fun was forgetting the narrative entirely, and just doing my own things for my own reasons. It would be nice if R* had put more meaning into these components of the game, but there's nothing stopping me from adding the meaning myself.
I usually only have 2-3 hours max an evening to play, so I started rdr with a goal in mind like "complete one hunting requirement for the next upgrade bag" or "complete one story mission" or "run thru one treasure map"
But in the process of that I took my time going from a to b and anytime I saw something interesting I stopped to check it out or random events I stopped to intervene if I agreed with what was going on.
Playing that way has made the game a ton of fun for me, yeah I'm not finished the game yet affter at least 60 hours but I have never felt burnt out.
Personally I suspect that the game design is better suited to older gamers playstyle who have limited game time and prefer a more organic experience rather than needing to check stuff off a map with endless action..
I'm hoping for a mod that adds more realism to stuff like the gunfights (increased bullet damage, removal of health regen, ect...)I'm kinda hoping the PC version gets decent modding support and someone makes a "I don't care about realism" mod or something
I'm kinda hoping the PC version gets decent modding support and someone makes a "I don't care about realism" mod or something
I'm kinda hoping the PC version gets decent modding support and someone makes a "I don't care about realism" mod or something
I think what most of us are saying is that there is a lot of options and you can do the things you enjoy and skip the others. Not everyone will enjoy hunting for example (count me in that group), but there are many who do.If all these systems aren't important and can be skipped, then why were they put in the game in the first place. Is like everyone is admitting that they are boring and kinda suck, but the silver lining is you don't have to do them.
Its not really a glowing endorsment to say you can just skip all this gameplay because it has no use in the game. Its like imagine if someone said the jumping mario sucks, and then the counter argument was that you can just run straight through the level and never have to deal with the annoying jumping.
They aren't boring and they don't suck for a lot of us ,and they can be ignored if you just want to blaze through the game and miss most of the game world.Is like everyone is admitting that they are boring and kinda suck, but the silver lining is you don't have to do them.
If all these systems aren't important and can be skipped, then why were they put in the game in the first place. Is like everyone is admitting that they are boring and kinda suck, but the silver lining is you don't have to do them.
Its not really a glowing endorsment to say you can just skip all this gameplay because it has no use in the game. Its like imagine if someone said the jumping mario sucks, and then the counter argument was that you can just run straight through the level and never have to deal with the annoying jumping.