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[twobear]

Your interchange of Victorian London and Modern London as the one and the same is troubling. We have advanced in the last 200 years, you know.

Of course we have. I don't see why that has a bearing on what I'm saying, at all, though?

I'm saying that for any period in London's history, the NY style overhead railways and skyscrapers are stylistically wonky. It would be a bit like if I showed you my design for 1920s New York and it was a low-lying city with no gridded streets.

Maybe I'm just more sensitive to this stuff than most? I dunno.

 

[SuperEpicGuy]

How is the sub 1080p bs? If you have a 1080p tv, there will be 1:1 pixel mapping. There is no stretching of pixels to fit your tv resolution.

Wait is it 1080p or not? black bars are not pixels for me as far as I'm concerned. It's like watching a 480p video with black bars all around it. It's 1:1 pixel mapping but not 1080p.

 

[jaded_up_]

Of course we have. I don't see why that has a bearing on what I'm saying, at all, though?

You keep stating that you don't get the vibe of London from the pictures. Which London would that be, then? Victorian London that the game is set in or Modern London? You only stated London in your points and it comes across that the two are the same for you.

 

[RoboPlato]

While it looks nice and pretty, its the physics simulation in materials that impresses most. Oh, and the lighting. Oh, and the fire.

This is what I like to hear. Fidelity is only one part of what I think next gen should be, world simulation is just as if not more important. Can't wait to see the fire since that was the one underwhelming effect in the trailer.

 

[jaded_up_]

Wait is it 1080p or not? black bars are not pixels for me as far as I'm concerned. It's like watching a 480p video with black bars all around it. It's 1:1 pixel mapping but not 1080p.

Do you know how small the video screen would be and how big the black bars would have to be to have 1:1 pixel mapping with a 480p video?

Anyway, the resolution is 1920 x 800.

 

[benny_a]

Wait is it 1080p or not? black bars are not pixels for me as far as I'm concerned. It's like watching a 480p video with black bars all around it. It's 1:1 pixel mapping but not 1080p.

It's 1080p, the same way this The Witcher 3 trailer and this The Division video is.

The game is anarmorphic 2.4.

 

[Dennis]

Talk is cheap.

 

[twobear]

You keep stating that you don't get the vibe of London from the pictures. Which London would that be, then? Victorian London that the game is set in or Modern London? You only stated London in your points and it comes across that the two are the same for you.

Oh, I clarified somewhat in my previous post.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Cautiously optimistic. This and Quantum Break are in the same boat for me, standard cover shooters with a nice premise. Interested to see if either comes out and is a great game.

 

[dragonbane]

Even waiting until late Feb. is kind of absurd. Game was revealed at E3 and shown behind close doors with the press bragging about it. We get a few pics and info from Gameinformer with them bragging about seeing footage and claiming it's the most next-gen thing ever. We were supposedly going to get footage at VGX but somehow footage wasn't ready.... Now they are cock teasing about the game looking better than the reveal and the only glimmer of hope we have of seeing the first gameplay footage is late Feb at Destination Playstation.

That will have been 8 and a half months since it's reveal. Really sick of these trends. Stop announcing games you have no intention of showing to the public so damn early.

We will definitely get something by March. The last couple of games they did this with (e.g. Beyond) all got gameplay showings by March of the next year after the initial E3 announcement. Going by this strategy the game will be playable next E3 and comes out September/October.

Still nothing on frame rate. If they're cutting part of the screen with black bars theeast you can do is have 60 fps. This pissed me off so much in Dragons Dogma that they cut the picture and had poor frame rate.

Won't be 60 fps come on.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Show me the receipts.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Looking forward to seeing how this game ends up turning out.

 

[Elginer]

Enough talk.Show me already!

 

[Oppo]

Talk is cheap.

Pedigree is not.

 

[nelsonroyale]

If so, then it is up with The Division and Witcher 3 as the most impressive next gen game showcases.

 

[travisbickle]

Of course we have. I don't see why that has a bearing on what I'm saying, at all, though?

I'm saying that for any period in London's history, the NY style overhead railways and skyscrapers are stylistically wonky. It would be a bit like if I showed you my design for 1920s New York and it was a low-lying city with no gridded streets.

Maybe I'm just more sensitive to this stuff than most? I dunno.

There are Georgian townhouses in the foreground, and towers in the back. You can see the top of the tower in the shot, it's about 50 floors short of a skyscraper.

Were there Georgian Townhouses in late 19th century New York?

 

[Snaku]

 

[Pound_lb003]

Pedigree is not.

I REALLY don't think they have that either actually.

 

[Murder. She Wrote]

I would suggest the Ready at Dawn team to stop talking about this game until they show us gameplay, it's just getting infuriating.

 

[pharmboy044]

When is the best time for them to debut the footage? GDC? That's three months away. An IGN exclusive? Holding their own event to have the press have hands-on?
None of these seem viable. They should have shown it at the VGX.

 

[viveks86]

Of course we have. I don't see why that has a bearing on what I'm saying, at all, though?

I'm saying that for any period in London's history, the NY style overhead railways and skyscrapers are stylistically wonky. It would be a bit like if I showed you my design for 1920s New York and it was a low-lying city with no gridded streets.

Maybe I'm just more sensitive to this stuff than most? I dunno.

You are

I think many of us (including myself) have had slightly different versions of the exact same debate with you at different points in time. It's good to see some fresh perspective introduced in each new iteration, but I don't think we are ever going to agree. lol

 

[Naminator]

Man I see that the Unified memory, 6Gigs of GDDR VRAM, codin to da metal and dat secret sauce really worked out for them!

 

[CthulhuPL]

I wonder how many people (casuals) won't notice the black bars. When I told my friend that there are black bars in Beyond, he was suprised (and he was halfway through the game).

 

[viveks86]

This is what I like to hear. Fidelity is only one part of what I think next gen should be, world simulation is just as if not more important. Can't wait to see the fire since that was the one underwhelming effect in the trailer.

It was. I was blown away by every second of that video until the floor lit up and took me back by a decade. Hope the fire gets some volumetric love.

 

[BloodMoney]

I will believe it when I see it.

 

[dragonbane]

This is what I like to hear. Fidelity is only one part of what I think next gen should be, world simulation is just as if not more important. Can't wait to see the fire since that was the one underwhelming effect in the trailer.

Yeah. The fire in Uncharted 3 and Beyond looked so nuts for PS3 it really spoiled me. Only Deep Down tech demo impressed me so far with fire, while Dark Sorcerer looked good. While internal engines are great, they should be sharing tech more...

When is the best time for them to debut the footage? GDC? That's three months away. An IGN exclusive? Holding their own event to have the press have hands-on?
None of these seem viable. They should have shown it at the VGX.

Why not? I would say they probably have a new trailer up in February and invite the press over to their studio in March for a gameplay blow-out. Playable demo at E3.

 

[mechphree]

They need to drop this trailer now and not at e3. I'm thinking sometime in January.

 

[cripterion]

Will this game have co-op? Would be great if this becomes Sony's Gears of War!

 

[dragonbane]

I wonder how many people (casuals) won't notice the black bars. When I told my friend that there are black bars in Beyond, he was suprised (and he was halfway through the game).

Most won't notice them at all. Some will and go "huh?" and then forget about them after 30 minutes. A vocal minority will probably hate them.

 

[Chittagong]

901P.

Boom.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Just for the record, everyone should check out this actual colour film of London in 1927. It's fascinating and is at least closer to this time period than we have context for today.

To think my father was born only 9 years after that.

 

[Amir0x]

To think my father was born only 9 years after that.

Damn your Dad is 77? How old are you Log4Girlz!?

 

[jsip]

I REALLY don't think they have that either actually.

Would you care to shed some insight as to why? I'm curious.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Damn your Dad is 77? How old are you Log4Girlz!?

I cannot give detective gaf too much fuel to burn me with Amir0x.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

Will this game have co-op? Would be great if this becomes Sony's Gears of War!

It seems like it was made for 4 player co-op. If it doesn't I'll be extremely disappointed since Sony 1st party games are sorely lacking in that area in general.

 

[Xamdou]

This is my most anticipated PS4 title, when is the release date?

 

[daveo42]

This is my most anticipated PS4 title, when is the release date?

Fall 2014 supposedly, though they haven't said anything about a hard date officially.

 

[Kvik]

I cannot give detective gaf too much fuel to burn me with Amir0x.

Seriously though, I'd prefer this game to have a true RPG mechanics, at least like the first Mass Effect (and not just 'Headshot + 25xp popups rubbish)

 

[Polishin8r]

lololo so good where is the original video?

 

[Loudninja]

I really cant wait to see this in motion,the pics look awesome.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=701878

 

[Arkham]

And this…

As a semi-Londoner myself (home away from home), this just calls out to me.

Title confirmed:

(OT) The Order 1886: London Clawing

 

[Jigolo]

Put your money where your mouth is, RAD. I know you're reading this thread

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

I want sharper moustaches, dammit!

 

[Superman]

Still my most anticipated PS4 title... It looks like it is oozing atmosphere. I hope it has local & online coop though.

 

[RoboPlato]

None of that seems to be remotely the case though, from everything we've seen, heard and read thus far. Quite the contrary in-fact. The lore, characters, weapons, setting etc, everything looks super enticing and well executed. Even their damn names and outfits for heaven's sake. And this…

As a semi-Londoner myself (home away from home), this just calls out to me.

This concept art is some of the best I've ever seen. It just oozes atmosphere and personality. If those types of scenes are accurately recreated in game this will definitely be something special.

 

[Knoxcore]

It seems like it was made for 4 player co-op. If it doesn't I'll be extremely disappointed since Sony 1st party games are sorely lacking in that area in general.

110% agree!!

Sony needs a great coop game. The Order seems practically made for coop.

It's been so frustrating to see game after game from Sony's first party studios treat coop like an add-on feature.

 

[enzo241]

HYPE HYPE HYPE

 

[10k]

I cannot give detective gaf too much fuel to burn me with Amir0x.

Based on stats after WWII you were born in the 60's. I say you're 50+ years old

 

[Seance]

We will see indeed. Shame it isn't 1080p.

 

[SolidSnakex]

110% agree!!

Sony needs a great coop game. The Order seems practically made for coop.

It's been so frustrating to see game after game from Sony's first party studios treat coop like an add-on feature.

It's great for some people as it shows they're committed to a genuine single player experience.