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RUMOR: Ryan Phillippe to play Iron Fist?
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Love how he humble bragged the shit out of that.
Good. I'm not fond of the guy. Surely they're not lacking of good-looking blonde haired, blue-eyed hunks in Hollywood?
Please let this happen, Marvel!
You misspelled Frank Grillo.
Please let this happen, Marvel!
Extra Sauce
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I still want Gosling but dude is too big for TV.
TheKaeptain
Banned
You misspelled Frank Grillo.
He already has a Marvel gig.
You misspelled Frank Grillo.
Isn't he holding down the Crossbones spot though?
You misspelled Frank Grillo.
What could have been. He'll make a great Crossbones too though.
Yup, he is most definitely Crossbones.
It's not that he looks different, it's that he IS different! Looks, and culturally. In K'un Lun before he becomes the Iron Fist he is viewed as an outsider and interloper, and it doesn't get much better afterwards. Making him Chinese or Asian in general would cause a lot of his back story to stop making sense.
Angelus Errare
Banned
You misspelled Frank Grillo.
I highly doubt Marvel will recast him as Punisher when he was in WS as a completely different person.
Yep. This. I want Danny Rand as he is. Would also love a Shang Chi series or to get Jimmy Woo into AoS.
changing Danny into an Asian would also change his relationship with Luke Cage. Which is pretty important
IrishNinja
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true but wasn't cap johnny storm once or was i boozing that time
Emperor_EL
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Nah, he's more Ryu than Ken in the sense that he's an orphan raised by a master martial artist & not a spoiled rich kid in need of discipline.
TheDarkKnight774
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Oh I'd kill for an incredible Herc show. Let's get a fun action comedy going!
Fantastic Four wasn't part of the MCU.
MCU actors generally stick to one character.
Paul Bettany is the only big exception.
MHWilliams
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Y'all know Shang Chi ain't getting a Netflix series. The fact that he's all most of you can name as an Asian hero is part of the problem.
I love Immortal Iron Fist, but damn... your story is three white dudes in a row were the best shot at an Immortal weapon? At least Marvel retconned Davos' into someone who looked like a person of Asian heritage, otherwise, I'd feel real bad about K'un Lun.
Only reason we have Cho is Greg Pak stepped in to right some wrongs. Maybe a Jimmy Woo series.
Honestly, they should just skip Iron Fist and do Shang Chi first, right? Otherwise, Marvel got two "white guy goes to vaguely Asian magical place and wins over the local populace" stories coming out in the nest few years.
Most of these characters where created back in the day and if you just pick the major ones, then you end up with situations like Age of Ultron, where a white, mostly male cast saves the world.
While the minority characters you have are conveniently sidelined.
So, there's two options:
1. Skip some of your main line heroes and jump to latter versions.
2. Change their race like they changed Scarlet Witch's powerset in AoU (what? you didn't know that?)
I personally don't care which, but at least Marvel somewhat realizes its a problem.
I love Immortal Iron Fist, but damn... your story is three white dudes in a row were the best shot at an Immortal weapon? At least Marvel retconned Davos' into someone who looked like a person of Asian heritage, otherwise, I'd feel real bad about K'un Lun.
Only reason we have Cho is Greg Pak stepped in to right some wrongs. Maybe a Jimmy Woo series.
Honestly, they should just skip Iron Fist and do Shang Chi first, right? Otherwise, Marvel got two "white guy goes to vaguely Asian magical place and wins over the local populace" stories coming out in the nest few years.
Most of these characters where created back in the day and if you just pick the major ones, then you end up with situations like Age of Ultron, where a white, mostly male cast saves the world.
While the minority characters you have are conveniently sidelined.
So, there's two options:
1. Skip some of your main line heroes and jump to latter versions.
2. Change their race like they changed Scarlet Witch's powerset in AoU (what? you didn't know that?)
I personally don't care which, but at least Marvel somewhat realizes its a problem.
darkhunger
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The proposal is to make him Chinese-AMERICAN, most of whom are culturally American, not Asian. And you know, they happen to dress, talk, and have different mannerisms than people from China too. That's what the whole discussion has been about.
An Asian born and raised in the West is typically seen as an outsider when they go back to Asia, believe it or not.
I think the ignorance about this fact in this thread is precisely why they should do something like make Iron Fist Asian American.
I don't shit after GoTG and Jessica Jones got stuff coming out.Y'all know Shang Chi ain't getting a Netflix series. The fact that he's all most of you can name as an Asian hero is part of the problem.
I love Immortal Iron Fist, but damn... your story is three white dudes in a row were the best shot at an Immortal weapon? At least Marvel retconned Davos' into someone who looked like a person of Asian heritage, otherwise, I'd feel real bad about K'un Lun.
Only reason we have Cho is Greg Pak stepped in to right some wrongs. Maybe a Jimmy Woo series.
Honestly, they should just skip Iron Fist and do Shang Chi first, right? Otherwise, Marvel got two "white guy goes to vaguely Asian magical place and wins over the local populace" stories coming out in the nest few years.
Most of these characters where created back in the day and if you just pick the major ones, then you end up with situations like Age of Ultron, where a white, mostly male cast saves the world.
While the minority characters you have are conveniently sidelined.
So, there's two options:
1. Skip some of your main line heroes and jump to latter versions.
2. Change their race like they changed Scarlet Witch's powerset in AoU (what? you didn't know that?)
I personally don't care which, but at least Marvel somewhat realizes its a problem.
BronsonLee
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Holy shit, LOL
I support that tag with all of my heart. I AIN'T NEVER NARC'D ON NOBODY, MAN
King Gilga
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I've read my fair share of comic books and I've never even heard of the guy, so he can't be that relevant.
God no, we need Marvel's Mightiest Biracial Baby to be born
Coriolanus
Banned
Man, these threads make it so easy to detect those that haven't touched a comic book in years... say what you will about Gambit, he at least read them.
Anyway
What're the good Danny Rand runs that i should track down?
Anyway
What're the good Danny Rand runs that i should track down?
King Gilga
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The big one by mat flachion or w/e his name is, I really enjoyed it.
Edit: The immortal iron first It's called I think.
WrenchNinja
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I've read that run and I'm not sure what you're talking about. How is being white like Orson remotely important in how he is treated?
Fixed2BeBroken
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Y'all know Shang Chi ain't getting a Netflix series. The fact that he's all most of you can name as an Asian hero is part of the problem.
I love Immortal Iron Fist, but damn... your story is three white dudes in a row were the best shot at an Immortal weapon? At least Marvel retconned Davos' into someone who looked like a person of Asian heritage, otherwise, I'd feel real bad about K'un Lun.
Only reason we have Cho is Greg Pak stepped in to right some wrongs. Maybe a Jimmy Woo series.
Honestly, they should just skip Iron Fist and do Shang Chi first, right? Otherwise, Marvel got two "white guy goes to vaguely Asian magical place and wins over the local populace" stories coming out in the nest few years.
Most of these characters where created back in the day and if you just pick the major ones, then you end up with situations like Age of Ultron, where a white, mostly male cast saves the world.
While the minority characters you have are conveniently sidelined.
So, there's two options:
1. Skip some of your main line heroes and jump to latter versions.
2. Change their race like they changed Scarlet Witch's powerset in AoU (what? you didn't know that?)
I personally don't care which, but at least Marvel somewhat realizes its a problem.
Nice post
Gambit 1138
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Movie Cap's Costume is totally based off Bryan Hitch's Ultimate design. Chin Strap and all.
Xyrmellon
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You could also really play up the mental illness/personality disorder thing, and that would really make him unique. You could have whole episodes where he's just the cab driver, then a few later the playboy, etc.
The 2005/2006-ish Ed Brubaker run and the followup in the same series (changed writers midway; some people don't like the 2nd half as much but I think it's just about as good) is amazing. Honestly, just going from the source material this is the most exciting of all the Netflix projects, but who knows if they'll be able to stay true to the comics since some of that stuff (especially the later arcs) are out of the usual TV budget range. Wish the show wasn't so far away.
DonasaurusRex
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the first movie looks like 616 suit with Ultimate helmet but even in the modern day Ultimate cap wears a variation of the regular uniform...bigger stars
Avengers was ...cocaines a hell of a drug...
TWS is clearly the Commander Rogers costume 616
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Then its important that he looks different too. Iron Fist is one of the few characters were race plays a factor.
Angelus Errare
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Exactly this.
Deadpool
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Wish I had a tag as cool as that
Nice post
This can easily be remedied by exploring the concepts brought up in the latest Iron Fist run. It explains why theres been white Iron Fists.
And just for the record i am part Asian and dont want them to change Danny.
because it adds to the animosity people of Kun Lun might harbor for him.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Daredevil/SHIELD fight guys are probably salivating at the chance to go insane for kung fu Iron Fist
Considering how low budget the effects would be, youre probably right.
Y'all know Shang Chi ain't getting a Netflix series. The fact that he's all most of you can name as an Asian hero is part of the problem.
I love Immortal Iron Fist, but damn... your story is three white dudes in a row were the best shot at an Immortal weapon? At least Marvel retconned Davos' into someone who looked like a person of Asian heritage, otherwise, I'd feel real bad about K'un Lun.
Only reason we have Cho is Greg Pak stepped in to right some wrongs. Maybe a Jimmy Woo series.
Honestly, they should just skip Iron Fist and do Shang Chi first, right? Otherwise, Marvel got two "white guy goes to vaguely Asian magical place and wins over the local populace" stories coming out in the nest few years.
Most of these characters where created back in the day and if you just pick the major ones, then you end up with situations like Age of Ultron, where a white, mostly male cast saves the world.
While the minority characters you have are conveniently sidelined.
So, there's two options:
1. Skip some of your main line heroes and jump to latter versions.
2. Change their race like they changed Scarlet Witch's powerset in AoU (what? you didn't know that?)
I personally don't care which, but at least Marvel somewhat realizes its a problem.
- I don't think there are many characters you could do that with (Ant-Man is more of a special case given that it was Edgar Wright's plan & the MCU was sculpted around it to an extent). In the case of Spider-Man, they're sticking with Peter Parker with Miles Morales likely being introduced later as a means to pass the torch once the MCU Peter Parker actor's contract expires & wants out. On top of that, even with other characters of color taking the mantle of other established heroes, they may or may not be as popular as their predecessors. Take Nova for example, Richard Rider is leagues more popular than Sam Alexander (who Marvel's still trying to salvage despite the low sales of his comics & his less-than-stellar fan reception). It's one thing to introduce someone who isn't well-known, it's another to introduce someone who isn't well-liked. I'd say Kamala, but she's co-existing with Carol (but yeah, Kamala is one of the few new young heroes of color that caught on).
- With the exception of Daisy Johnson, most of Marvel's race changes were on either minor characters (Heimdal) or characters without powers (Ben Urich, Nick Fury...who was already black in the Ultimate universe). Clare Temple is sort of an odd case as, although the character of Claire Temple was originally black, she took the role that was occupied by Night Nurse (a separate character in the comics who was white).
Screaming Meat
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After his performance in Way of the Gun, he's got a lot of mileage with me.
From what we've heard Marvel is probably going to lock up whoever they get to be Spider-Man for a long time. Also, for the movies and shows they can do whatever they want with the people under the mask without much backlash unless its someone like Peter Parker because not too many people know more than what they've seen on the big screen. Race changes aren't as likely though.
WrenchNinja
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That he is western and "traitorous" to his culture is an easy substitute to cause conflict for him.
No he's just ridiculous.
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