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Running Wilde |OT| of Hurwitz, Cross, and Arnett do good for nothing
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jamesinclair
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Just watched episode 5.......which was clearly episode 2.
Why the fuck must Fox air shows out of order?
It's how you know a show is good.
Does it lack promotion? Check.
Does nobody know about it? Check.
Is it being aired out of order? Check
= Great show.
Orgy dome :lol
Why the fuck must Fox air shows out of order?
It's how you know a show is good.
Does it lack promotion? Check.
Does nobody know about it? Check.
Is it being aired out of order? Check
= Great show.
Orgy dome :lol
KibblesBits
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This show could be so good.
Nappuccino
Member
Jax said:
I doubt it.
The problem here is a) trying to appeal to Fox's sensibilities and b) not a Mitch Hurwitz original production. He just came on to help with something Will Arnet was already doing.
I really want this show to get good though. Fa'ad is such a great character.
humour is off
daughter is annoying (very)
cast (arnett/felicity) feel 1 dimensional
the latest medieval fest episode = not 1 laugh. The comedy feels really dry and I think its because arnett's and felicitys lead have ZERO chemistry and lack that xfactor. It doesn't have the easy comedic feel of modern family and raising hope. Everyone on the show seems uncomfortable to be there.
I think I'm done with it. Watched every episode to date but its just not doing it for me.
daughter is annoying (very)
cast (arnett/felicity) feel 1 dimensional
the latest medieval fest episode = not 1 laugh. The comedy feels really dry and I think its because arnett's and felicitys lead have ZERO chemistry and lack that xfactor. It doesn't have the easy comedic feel of modern family and raising hope. Everyone on the show seems uncomfortable to be there.
I think I'm done with it. Watched every episode to date but its just not doing it for me.
KibblesBits
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What they should have done:
Puddle narration cut by 85%
Puddle only talks to Steve, revealed to be extremely cunning
Mr. Lunt is revealed to be evil or at least always wants things to backfire for drama
Andy needs to feel like less of a plot device and more like a character on the show.
Puddle narration cut by 85%
Puddle only talks to Steve, revealed to be extremely cunning
Mr. Lunt is revealed to be evil or at least always wants things to backfire for drama
Andy needs to feel like less of a plot device and more like a character on the show.
jamesinclair
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The last episode was hilarious.
Fa'ad was amazing.
Fa'ad was amazing.
Nappuccino
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KibblesBits said:
Get this man a writer's slot on the show!
jamesinclair
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Rafa=FedKilla
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Not even Kerri Russel's beauty could save this show. 
I really enjoyed last night's episode. Fa'ad really is a great character and the songs were fantastic. The whole joust scene killed me. The main problem with the show is that Keri Russel's character is so annoying and the back and forth between her and Arnett completely falls flat.
Yeah, the relationship between Arnett and Russel is nothing special at all. It's just boring.
The show's still decently funny though. And I thought the "BUYME" gag with that book was pretty funny.
Ah well. I just hope Hurwitz finds a quick job so he has enough money to make the AD movie.
The show's still decently funny though. And I thought the "BUYME" gag with that book was pretty funny.
Ah well. I just hope Hurwitz finds a quick job so he has enough money to make the AD movie.
RobotNinjaHornets
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jamesinclair
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big ander said:
Im sure theyll eventually air.
Most likely, theyll air in December/January when fox usually just airs repeats.
Second option is the Sit Down treatment, Saturdays at midnight.
Third option is the AD treatment, 4 episodes in one night.
They also have Sundays at 7pm available, now usually animation repeats.
The Chosen One
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I watched the first 3 eps, but it was definitely missing something. I think the cast was fairly weak and Gob is probably not a good lead character.
Also the premise is too narrow. Is it basically just about Gob proving to Felicity that he's really a good guy and other antics about how a rich boy needs to grow up?
AD worked because there were at least 4-5 characters who had interesting story-arcs. It was an ensemble cast, not just 1-2 main characters alongside 4-5 one-dimensional cardboards. The AD episodes they could devote a 1/3 of the show to any one character because each character was that good.
Also I don't like how with Running Wilde, they have to beat you over the head with a particular joke. Sometimes the jokes would have been funnier if they didn't actually try to explain why it was funny. I'm guessing FOX didn't want to have too many implied comedy bits.
Anyway, too bad it's getting canceled so soon, but I'm not really going to miss it much unfortunately. I still have two unwatched episodes sitting on my DVR.
Also the premise is too narrow. Is it basically just about Gob proving to Felicity that he's really a good guy and other antics about how a rich boy needs to grow up?
AD worked because there were at least 4-5 characters who had interesting story-arcs. It was an ensemble cast, not just 1-2 main characters alongside 4-5 one-dimensional cardboards. The AD episodes they could devote a 1/3 of the show to any one character because each character was that good.
Also I don't like how with Running Wilde, they have to beat you over the head with a particular joke. Sometimes the jokes would have been funnier if they didn't actually try to explain why it was funny. I'm guessing FOX didn't want to have too many implied comedy bits.
Anyway, too bad it's getting canceled so soon, but I'm not really going to miss it much unfortunately. I still have two unwatched episodes sitting on my DVR.
Not getting more episodes.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/19/running-wilde-and-the-good-guys-effectively-canceled/72899
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/19/running-wilde-and-the-good-guys-effectively-canceled/72899
thetechkid
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big ander said:
I wanna punch fox every time I watch a show I like because they can it.
The Chosen One said:
Fox pretty much was the reason RW was nothing like AD. I should try and find that interview, but MItch said straight out he was doing absolutely anything and everything they asked of him. And they asked a lot. He said if any of his quirky humor came in, they'd tell him to make it simpler.
Edit: here it is
Nappuccino
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RDreamer said:
ugh
Mitch needs to go to cable stat.
I'm a little sad to see RW go... I really want all these characters to return in a glorious semi-remake. But puddle can stop talking to her mother. Or doing narration.
dead souls
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czartim said:And Lonestar
I think I can no longer trust Fox enough to invest in their new shows.
Yeah, it's just crazy the way Fox abandons shows that nobody watches.
Repeats of Raising Hope get higher ratings than Running Wilde. It's no surprise that it got killed.
Shows like Lonestar unfortunately deserved to be canceled.dead souls said:
RW deserved to be canceled the way it is, but as that article shows it was heavily interfered with by Fox. We'll never know if Hurwitz and Co could have created a better show and we'll never know if that would have gotten great ratings.
I'm mostly disappointed because this was how they were going to be able to do the AD movie. Now it'll be even longer until it begins to begin.
dead souls
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I would've preferred to see what RW would have been like without Fox interference, but I bet it still would have done poorly in the ratings.
The more time that passes that more skeptical I am about the prospect of the AD movie. I'm worried that it will tarnish the legacy of the show. I'll still be there opening night if it ever actually gets made, of course.
The more time that passes that more skeptical I am about the prospect of the AD movie. I'm worried that it will tarnish the legacy of the show. I'll still be there opening night if it ever actually gets made, of course.
Stumpokapow
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czartim said:
As opposed to NBC (The Black Donnellys, Journeyman, Freaks and Geeks, Kings, both Andy Richter shows), CBS (Jericho, Moonlight), ABC (The Nine, Pushing Daisies, Better off Ted)... and that's just fan favourites that show up on "OMG CANCELED TOO SOON" lists in the last ten years
Networks can underperforming shows. There isn't a single network anywhere on television that "invests" in new shows that underperform. All four interfere creatively in pretty much equal measure, all four shitcan great shows in pretty much equal measure. Even cable does it--John from Cincinnati, Rubicon, Deadwood...
If some networks seem to cancel less, it's either because a) they don't greenlight risky shows to begin with, b) their overall ratings are so bad that they can afford to keep some clunkers, or c) their pilot crop sucks and so they order fewer than normal to series.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
czartim said:
Well the good news is that technology has really helped with this. If a show gets canceled, it's--almost, where the fuck is Carpoolers?--certainly going to come out on DVD. If a show gets canned and the remaining episodes get burned off on some wacky schedule, you can still catch them on Netflix. Cable networks like Lifetime (saved Medium), DirectTV (saved Damages, Friday Night Lights), and the cable subsidiaries of the major networks (USA saved Law and Order: Whatever Subtitle) make it easier to shunt programming over to more agile business operations that can profit off lower profile shows. And if all else fails, between Youtube and fan sites you'll be able to see your favourite clips. That's not even counting Family Guy and Futurama; two cases where direct-to-DVD movies caused the shows to be revived (one for the better, one for the worse)
I would hazard a guess that one-season shows from 2005-2010 are vastly better "preserved" than one-season shows from any other point in history. I was reading some TV encyclopedia stuff a few months ago and I was amazed that I couldn't identify virtually any single season show from before 2000 despite being an avid TV watcher my whole life! And yet I can probably tell you every single scripted show a major network has aired since then! And I own most of them on DVD!
So while shows are always going to get canceled prematurely, you're in a better position than ever to avoid getting burned, and a better position than ever to feel satisfied if you do invest in a canceled show. Yay!
It's definitely better than ever before, but I can't help but wonder if networks are shooting themselves in the foot because of it. Each year there are less and less new shows on network television that appeal to me. And the ones that do are so niche that they almost always get canceled. It all comes back to the age gap I guess. It seems to me like networks shouldn't even bother picking up shows like Running Wilde and Lonestar; they'll never hit it big with middle America. Let cable have them.
They've created a gruesome cycle. People don't watch shows because they're afraid they'll be canceled, so they get canceled because no one watches them. In the end, the only people watching TV are the ones who don't really care what they're watching.
They've created a gruesome cycle. People don't watch shows because they're afraid they'll be canceled, so they get canceled because no one watches them. In the end, the only people watching TV are the ones who don't really care what they're watching.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
czartim said:
Absolutely agree. And basic cable provides an excellent in between for the intellectual, niche appeal content on HBO and the mindless pap on networks--look at something like Burn Notice. It's breezy, it's light, but it's got an intelligence and wit that wouldn't work on networks. Running Wilde would have been a great basic cable comedy.
In ten years TV will be great. I wouldn't be surprised if sites like Hulu, Amazon, and iTunes overtake regular television. It will suddenly be about the content providers instead of the overall packages of netrworks. It may be bad business for Hollywood, but the consumer will greatly benefit.
Nappuccino
Member
czartim said:
I kinda hope that will happen... i have no idea how the advertising rates will be affected though. We might be seeing a lot of very small budget shows if that happens.
One of the best episodes of the show tonight. That's not saying a ton, but I enjoyed it. You just have to realize it's NOT Arrested Development and it's actually okay.
The Emmy-Steve development is starting to make sense. Puddle was barely in the episode.
The 30 Rock thing was weird and kind of funny, but I thought the 30 Rock, from the Sun jokes were pretty good.
The Emmy-Steve development is starting to make sense. Puddle was barely in the episode.
The 30 Rock thing was weird and kind of funny, but I thought the 30 Rock, from the Sun jokes were pretty good.
man of science
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Awesome episode! So many great jokes. I'm gonna miss this show.
I laughed so hard at 'Weebiscuit'.
I laughed so hard at 'Weebiscuit'.
I thought it was a pretty poor episode. There were a few funny parts, mostly with Fa'ad and Migo as always, but the back and forth between Emma and Steve absolutely blows. If you took a drink every time she said the word superficial, you'd have been hammered by the end of the show. Just the same exact argument from week to week, and for at least 10 minutes of this episode. We. Get. It.
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