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Scrolls Beta Thread: On my Beard ! Not the Elder ones
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Wok
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As a card game, this game makes it even more strategic thanks to a trading card constraint. If you want a card, you can have it with gold earned in-game, you do not have to spend additional money. Only if you want many cards at once will you need to spend money. Therefore, you are not likely to radically change the contents of your current deck, it is easier to make small changes at a time, and progressively refine your strategy.
Voice chat would be super low on the list of priorities for me. I'd prefer to be able to text chat with an opponent after the game ended, or add them to a friends list, far before I want a random stranger to be able to yell obscenities and racial slurs at me.
I say this assuming there's no way to buy gold with real money, or buy avatars and trade them for gold/cards.
As you have noticed, the only cards you can buy with money are the 6 single cards you can get per week (and you can only buy one of each during that week). I think it should be very possible to get the same amount of ingame gold to buy those 6 cards during the week if you wanted them all and didn't want to trade for them with other players.
I say this assuming there's no way to buy gold with real money, or buy avatars and trade them for gold/cards.
I think 20 seconds would be way too short considering the amount of time it can take to read some cards you are unfamiliar with, or consider exactly what is happening when you're bad at the game, especially if network server desync happens.
60 seconds might be reasonable.
Parallax Scroll
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What's the rush? 90 is fine.
20 lolololol
20 lolololol
Parallax Scroll
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You can. Hit enter.
the rush? sitting there and waiting for 90 seconds every turn is fine? not for me
And 20 second turns is wayyy to short. 60 maybe.
Just wanted to drop a video of a mate playing with a Growth/Order control deck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdLxg8CBBt8
I might actually get this but 90 sec... Seems like a long time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdLxg8CBBt8
I might actually get this but 90 sec... Seems like a long time.
I like 90 seconds as it is. Board positions and card possibilities can get really complicated. When you play it, 90 seconds isn't that long, really. You can't judge that by watching videos.
Also on the F2P point, there's too few cards at the moment to really be an issue. It'll only stop you if you want use a variety of decks of different types, but if you just focus on building one really good deck it's not that difficult for anyone. You'll just need to grind for a bit. I'm thinking it's also possible to bot the game somehow to just farm the gold you need to buy anything. The trade chat is pretty active.
The highest demand rares are around 1000-1200 gold, and each game you can get 150-300 gold if you win. There's probably only like 3-5 of those right now among all the cards. So it's just really a matter of time because there's not many cards.
Also on the F2P point, there's too few cards at the moment to really be an issue. It'll only stop you if you want use a variety of decks of different types, but if you just focus on building one really good deck it's not that difficult for anyone. You'll just need to grind for a bit. I'm thinking it's also possible to bot the game somehow to just farm the gold you need to buy anything. The trade chat is pretty active.
The highest demand rares are around 1000-1200 gold, and each game you can get 150-300 gold if you win. There's probably only like 3-5 of those right now among all the cards. So it's just really a matter of time because there's not many cards.
I tried this after the game once, but I'm not sure if the communication actually works since the other player disconnected. I guess you can chat on the defeat screen? It's more obvious in LoL that chat is enabled in a postgame stat/lobby screen, but maybe Scrolls will add something like that.
Also on the LoL note, I'm too used to 20-40+ minute games for a 15-20 minute Scrolls game to phase me I guess, haha.
I'm confused by this. Are you suggesting that if you buy shards, you can get a variety of decks of different types? Or are you just suggesting it's difficult for anyone to do that quickly, which I can agree with?
*edit* Just lost a PVP match I was ahead in because my internet dropped out for half a second, apparently the reconnect failed, and it kicked me back to the login screen with an error and didn't seem to be working. =( Is there any way to manually PM a specific person, like a whisper command?
*edit again* Actually, typing on the stat screen after a victory doesn't even show me what I typed, so I don't know if it's working.
Parallax Scroll
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I think buying packs and random singles is more fun. I put together a functional order deck just by buying randoms and buying a few people's extra commons/uncommons off them.
You'll still need have gold even with shards. And with that gold alone, you could already buy the cards from the trade channel. There's no need to buy shards unless you're in a hurry or lazy.
That's what I was trying to point out, shards can literally only help you get 6 cards per week unless I'm missing something, most of which you won't want. As far as I can tell, that barely accelerates the process of collecting cards you actually do want.
Uhh, I'm saying people shouldn't be concerned about paying to win, but if you do want a variety of decks of all types, then buying the precons and using the six cards definitely speeds up getting the cards you need. It's harder to do by just grinding if you essentially want everything fast.
Edit: You can also buy another account which comes with a precon of your choice and 2000G.
Edit: You can also buy another account which comes with a precon of your choice and 2000G.
Oh if you mean buying the other premade starter decks so you have 1 deck of each type then yes. Though the double account thing is probably a much more feasible option, haha.
Another account is $20, a precon on it's own is less then $5 worth of shards.
But those have 6500G(?) costs along with the shards too, right?
I thought it was shards or gold, not both.
Oh hmm, I always assumed it was both.
Parallax Scroll
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It's either gold or shards, you pick one.
Good news and agreed, keep those updates rolling.
Excellent! More cards!
Wok
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voodoopanda
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It looks like you can pull up your profile by putting your Scrolls username at the end of http://www.scrollsguide.com/ranking/player/
I've been playing off and on, slowly getting the cards I want. From what I've heard, they're working on the Decay stuff and hope to get it out asap before getting around to adding more cards for each faction. Hopefully sooner than later.
There was also this post on their forums about adding new stuff including replays, which is groovy. I posted here a few days ago about wanting that.
I've been playing off and on, slowly getting the cards I want. From what I've heard, they're working on the Decay stuff and hope to get it out asap before getting around to adding more cards for each faction. Hopefully sooner than later.
There was also this post on their forums about adding new stuff including replays, which is groovy. I posted here a few days ago about wanting that.
voodoopanda
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Unless they change things, paying money right now is a really bad idea. There are 6 randomly selected cards(2 common, 2 uncommon, 2 rare) available to buy that change once a week, and you can buy either of the Precon decks you didn't pick at the start, once each.
Unless you really want a different Preconstructed Deck(and precon decks aren't very good without some changes), putting money into Scrolls doesn't get you anything good, at least for now. Getting good cards by playing/trading/buying random packs with gold is a lot faster/better than waiting a week on the chance a card you want goes up for sale for real money.
Dinosaur Tamer
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It may get harder to compete once they add more cards, but right now it's really not that much of an issue. You can get whole decks in a matter of hours.
Bought the game a few days ago and I am already close to being maxed out on growth and order cards. Unranked matches are not that hard to win with weaker decks and you get 2-4 cards out of most of these. There must be about 200 cards right now and you can even sell the cards you don't need or trade with other players. Do the math yourself.
MegaKungFuRadio
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The grind is already getting to me.
Went up against a pretty neat Order/Growth deck which makes me want to pick up a second pre-con. Tempted to just buy some shards and buy the other two pre-cons to mess around with.
Speaking of the Order/Growth deck I played, can you get decked in this game? He drew a hell of a lot of cards that game and it was starting to look like my most appealing win condition.
Went up against a pretty neat Order/Growth deck which makes me want to pick up a second pre-con. Tempted to just buy some shards and buy the other two pre-cons to mess around with.
Speaking of the Order/Growth deck I played, can you get decked in this game? He drew a hell of a lot of cards that game and it was starting to look like my most appealing win condition.
6 random cards a week to buy is hardly pay to win.
I believe no. Pretty sure it just goes back through or something. One of my trial games went really long and I remember pulling up a scroll I only had one of twice in that game.
voodoopanda
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Yep, there isn't a discard pile or anything. Everything that isn't in play goes back into the deck. I'm not sure exactly how it works, whether it shuffles back into your current deck or if once you go through all your cards it starts over with a fresh deck or uses some other formula. I'm leaning towards the second based on what I've played. With the sac to draw 2 cards mechanic it's fairly easy to get through an entire deck.
It may be only 6 cards a week but even in a very small way it is still Pay2Win. Its giving people with $ an advantage. It's a dumb idea, just keep paid stuff limited to cosmetics only.
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