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Self-driving trucks will hit the road in Ohio
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Ultramantaro1
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I just have to stop and and recognize that I have yet to see a thread were there is no fitting Simpsons reference.
the_batman
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do you even know how that would work. no store in the country is designed to receive goods from a truck from like a conveyor belt or something. it's just a big door on the wall that people use pallet jacks to lift and push things in and out.
I think that's the general plan for now. Automated trucks for long haul, while a driver takes control once the Truck reaches the city.
Initially of course not, but I don't see why huge swathes of infrastructure wouldn't be designed in the next few decades to reduce or eliminate human involvement.
There's a commercial imperative here that isn't going to go away.
Truck drivers don't do this part.
Alot of truck drivers are immigrants, I dont know why you assume them to be Trumpers
There really is a Simpsons gif for everything huh?
Yeah i'm curious how this will all work. Even knowing that a truck was unmanned for some portion could be a huge security hurdle for port operations. I'm guessing things like UPS and such might be a little less of an issue.
I also wonder if some would-be criminals would feel less worry for stopping or crashing bigger trucks, knowing no one is inside.
Well a populist who wants protectionist trade policies just won the election as a Republican so I think that bootstrap s wing of the party may be dead or homeless.
Depends on what's being transferred.
This raises concerns and interesting questions regarding carrier drones. I believe these are planned to be used to transfer items to warehouses, but I suppose trucks would be use for en masse transfers.
They may let pride win. A lot of these people in rural America truly feel the wealthier people deserve better healthcare because of the money they make...
You can easily imagine that being warped to having a home, paying for expenses, living a dignified baseline life, etc.
DragonSworne
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All this falls on the driver because the driver is there. Once the driver is gone, and there is a huge incentive to get rid of the driver, all these will be figured out as necessity. And having a human won't be the answer.
Not the best evidence considering that it's posted in every self-driving car thread.
On-topic, I applaud this and hope we continue speeding in this direction so that people are forced to confront the live-to-work lifestyle earlier.
ZackieChan
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Some do. Depends on the job.
Generalpsyduck
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Not having a job isn't very healthy either.
valkillmore
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I am certain you will have asshole drivers who will try and fuck w the trucks just because.
This isn't a good reason to not eliminate a job. If we followed this logic we'd be paying millions of dudes to sharpen sticks and throw them at forest animals.
I don't. What's the joke?
I can't help but chuckle a bit at this accelerating so fast. Trump is going to have a lot of explaining to do when rural America starts feeling the impact of this if it keeps up. I'm all for a driverless future. It's a task that I personally will be glad to shed off.
BlackLagoon
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Anecdotally, a number of blue collar Trump supporters I saw interviewed during the election seemed very pro boostrap. It's just that in their mind they had earned these manufacturing jobs, and standing up to the crooked elites and immigrants who were making the jobs go away was simply right and just and completely different from giving lazy people handouts.
Generalpsyduck
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Anecdotally, my experience has been the same.
Oh it definitely will.
It's going to be brutal.
Millions of people being constantly shuffled around to whatever scraps of labor still need human involvement, probably facing deteriorating conditions and pay, as well as underemployment along the way.
Seductivpancakes
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robots were invention of the Chinese to weaken American economy, so yes they will.
I work somewhere that has trucks in and out all the time, sometimes picking up here in Oregon and taking it to Alabama. How long till that's automated? I'm guessing a very long time cause who would secure the load and make sure the goods are traveling without damage. Still need a person in the cab that's knowledgeable. Robots creep me out lol
If they lose their job under Trump, they won't blame Trump?
LowerLevel
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Can't see an auto driving truck delivering oil to dwellings tbh. Or certain aspects of my own dsd job. Long distance highway deliveries, sure. Not smaller, local drops though... Should be interesting however.
As far as actually unloading pallets? AFAIK the vaaast majority don't, except maybe in cases where the truck, freight & warehouse are all owned by the same company.
Companies are going to look at cost/benefit. If the benefit of eliminating employees is greater than the cost of 1% more (or whatever) damaged goods, incorrect deliveries, etc, than they will stool choose driver automation.
This is probably true. Actual customer delivery will take longer to eliminate than just transporting a trailer between two hubs.
TheOfficeMut
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How do automated vehicles get pulled over my law enforcement?
Epsilon-delta
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Like I said before, good luck to future senators/representatives/presidents in 2030 and beyond who have to deal with the upcoming automation train.
I know you jest, but that actually that brings up a good point. Municipalities will lose lots of money from lack of traffic fines. A lot plan their annual budgets around it.
Hmm...my bf is already in IT and has been scouted by Uber for winning that goofy "game' they ask you to play sometimes. So he's probably set.
is the personal protection/guard type, the field medic/scientist type or wasteland shooter/survivalist type the most complementary skillset for aiding him? I can do any of the three but I gotta start now. 20 years from now has Fallout prequel written all over it.
is the personal protection/guard type, the field medic/scientist type or wasteland shooter/survivalist type the most complementary skillset for aiding him? I can do any of the three but I gotta start now. 20 years from now has Fallout prequel written all over it.
Outside of big cities, think about what the police and firemen do. It's mostly traffic related. The ripple effect on jobs because of driverless vechicals is going to be bananas.
In a jobs cult, yes. But this is where the problem lies: not the aversion to technology, but the demand of human capital within a labor force.
It isn't healthy to lack a job in this climate, but the most toxic thing is not changing this imposition. Until that is handled with more compassion and understanding of the future of work being almost innately precarious, we're fucked.
That conversion is strangely lacking in America. Even the poverty angle for a UBI is dodged.
Subpar Spatula
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I wonder how easy they will be to rob. Like, obviously the trucks are going to be programmed to not crash so if you shoot the tire out, you essentially make it pull over, and you rob the thing as it signals for assistance.
Jacksinthe
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Depends on the type of load. Dry or wet foodstuffs, cement (dry, not concrete mixer), fuel, asphalt, stone, sand, etc are all unloaded by the driver. Not to mention they most likely have to navigate production plants or fuel stations, reverse around blind corners, tight alleys, etc.
GoldenEye 007
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"Those lazy fucks didn't have enough bootstraps!" Once we can get past that as the prevailing sentiment, then I guess a conversation on UBI can happen. But I fear that is a long ways off...
GoldenEye 007
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The trailers likely would still be locked as they are now and wired with technology for observation, tracking, etc.
I would think sensors can handle all of that. Ultimately you're dealing with solid obstacles which will define available pathways and I'd assume the system would be able to account for the position of the entire tractor trailer and dimensions, etc.
Those items are controlled by a driver, but could also be controlled automatically or based on commands that staff on site give. After all it's their construction site or whatever, so they get control of where items are unloaded.
Edit: Whoops DP. Whatever.
blame space
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our country is too bigThere's debate as to how accurate some of these classifications are but....
Most common jobs by state;
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/05/382664837/map-the-most-common-job-in-every-state
ChronotriggerJM
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I imagine not more so than a truck driver now? If the vehicle is stopped in an unplanned manner, in sure authorities will be called. And most trucks now have beds that are fairly easy to break into because of doors designed for human use. If you take that out of the equation, you can make them much more secure.
Intheflorsh
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So how long until one of these trucks veer off the road and reactionary legislation bans self-driving cars until the end of time?
sans_pants
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Things are going to massively shift in the next decade. We need leaders equipped to handle it. We got trump
The trucks have cameras, though...
You can install cameras inside the truck in the corners as a safety measure, making any robbery something with visual evidence to help identify the robbers. Hell, maybe make the back of the truck require a RFID chip or something to get to the cargo. If you're going with fancy cameras and software, why not lock up the storage with fancier jazz, too?
Regulus Tera
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It's a conspiracy!
Hellsing321
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They are still going to need people in the driver seat for the foseeable future, but yeah better to get started on that shit sooner rather than later.
GoldenEye 007
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Actually makes sense. The trucking company could send RFID "keys" to their clients that the management/receiving staff would have on them on the truck arrives. That info would automatically pull what shipment was supposed to be delivered that day, unlock the truck, and have automated forklifts unload the cargo where the store staff would be able to direct. Lift goes back in, ensures no other cargo was taken, and truck leaves for the next delivery.
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