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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero (PS3/4/Vita/360/XB1/WiiU/PC) Kickstarter [800K/400K Funded]
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ShinMaruku
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Yay it got funded!
Still sad about the stretch goals
I think we can get atleast one. The final week money piles in. Now that it is funded many others will feel better putting their money in.
The first game is big and has a well designed world. Movement takes a bit to get used to and hit detection is problematic. In fact, dealing with enemies in general is a pain as Shantae's attack range is so short (and like I said, brutal hit-detection). The dungeons are super well designed. Also traversing the overworld can become a pain since it's so big (and so full of enemies that are hard to hit). It's an okay game that could have been an excellent game. Also, crazy tech for GBC. Definitely a showcase title in that regard.
The second game, all the movement and attack problems are fixed. Controlling Shantae feels really good and her attack range is lengthened and there aren't any hit detection problems. Only problem with this game is that it's a lot smaller than the first. I'm actually approaching the end of the game myself right now and there have only been two dungeons and only a scant few places on the overworld. Game also looks really good.
So whichever of those sounds more appealing to you.
Eh, not sure I'd call Wayforward a 'larger developer'. Maybe compared to some lone guy coding in his basement.
Which IMO mostly explains your other points: they probably just didn't have the time/budget to do more.
Anyway,
Yay, it got funded, Hoping they can reach some more stretch goals.
Yeah, I like WayForward too, but the phrase "Good, but could be better" describes most of their output.
K
kittens
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Niiiice! Good to hear they met their goal.
FlyingSaucer
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I was wondering how many people were employed by WF and all I could find was this page; don't know how much credit I can give it, though.
(incidentally, I found this too; particulary of interest is "Some disorganization with upper management")
Anyway, I think Stumpokapow is pretty fair in his criticism (all his points) and, more importantly, I wonder how their poor handling of both the greenlit and the KS campaigns might have hurt the latter funding. Yet, I'm willing to believe it was caused by constraints of time and/or budget. I hope the better for this new episode of Shantae !
ZSaberLink
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I haven't played the Shantae games before, but I'm happy this got funded nevertheless. Let's see whether they can hit at least 1 stretch goal. In all honesty though, the only stretch goals I'm really interested in are the bonus stages...
twothunder
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Really glad to see it funded.
From Matt Bozon:
"(this is Matt Bozon) Thank you everyone for making this happen! We're going to post a video as soon as we can get it uploaded. We're so excited and grateful for your generosity and support. It's amazing that you guys were able to raise $400K by getting behind this project and showing your support and endless enthusiasm. THANK YOU! "
http://i.imgur.com/CojDRsM.jpg
From Matt Bozon:
"(this is Matt Bozon) Thank you everyone for making this happen! We're going to post a video as soon as we can get it uploaded. We're so excited and grateful for your generosity and support. It's amazing that you guys were able to raise $400K by getting behind this project and showing your support and endless enthusiasm. THANK YOU! "
http://i.imgur.com/CojDRsM.jpg
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Context; the sentence is about lone guys in their basement trying to get on Steam versus a larger developer trading on a pre-existing brand but not making any serious effort to do a high quality pitch or engage with the community.
Vermillion
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Yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!
Fixed again
My point was that while they're larger than some dude in his basement, they're ultimately still a small developer.
Seeing how they got through Greenlight anyway without having to put any resources into it, I guess you could say they made a smart business decision.
Stone Ocean
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I'm so sad this goal most likely won't be met =/
New character goals are the best.
The Grim Heaper
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I'm so sad this goal most likely won't be met =/
New character goals are the best.
NihonTiger90
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And I am sad at those stretch goals, because we won't get them Damn.
Damn.Knew it.
There's also this:
Quick GAF, let's scrounge up $600k!
Hopefully it'll atleast reach 800k. ;~; 900k and 1M seem so awesome though..
PixyJunket
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Looking at the current list of stretch goals, I'd like to see them hit 800k, because I love alternate costumes in games and that second bonus chapter character looks boss (redhead + pigtails = woo). That seems pretty crazy though given their current momentum. I don't follow many game Kickstarters, but I do recall that Shovel Knight's funding went insane in its last week and they destroyed all of their stretch goals when it had looked like they would barely get through half of them when I put my pledge in.
Also they'll be able to accept PayPal donations now.
Hero of Legend
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Any gifs of Monkey Shantae?
MrCunningham
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Nice to see this one hit its funding goal. It would be nice if they can break a few of those stretch goals now.
I'm so sad this goal most likely won't be met =/
New character goals are the best.
Knew it.
There's also this:
Quick GAF, let's scrounge up $600k!
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GAF really twisting the knife right before my birthday. I wish if we knew about these goals from earlier though.
Sucks the game won't get near those stretch goals Would be awesome to get all those playable characters and extra chapters.
I also think the KS was bad timing. I think they could have waited until Pirates Curse launched first.
Oh well. hope we get the costumes, other characters, and chapters as DLC in the future. Hope they show more gameplay ideas and transformations too. Still think Pirates Curse looks more appealing.
Would be awesome to get all those playable characters and extra chapters. I also think the KS was bad timing. I think they could have waited until Pirates Curse launched first.
Oh well. hope we get the costumes, other characters, and chapters as DLC in the future. Hope they show more gameplay ideas and transformations too. Still think Pirates Curse looks more appealing.
Diomedeskun
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The new stretch goals look great, but the first two don't seem all that interesting. I'd love to see them all met, and I'm pretty glad that the game is now funded, since it will probably now make some stretch goals, but I just wonder, since there is another traditionally funded game coming soon, if people will care enough to continue pumping in money now that it's funded. I really hope so, since the stretch goals seem to be what will make it stand out from the other games in the series, and they sound really original and fun.
Himynameischris
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I guess if the stretch goals don't get funded they could always add that stuff in a sequel??
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Would have loved to see more chapters, but at this point I'm just grateful it met its goal and the game will happen!
This and Mighty No. 9. The hard part is waiting! *cry*
This and Mighty No. 9. The hard part is waiting! *cry*
weevles
Member
Clearly, WayForward coasted on their brand and history, but I think to a certain extent, we shouldn't necessarily be criticizing them for that. They earned it by making those IPs into games that people remembered and cared about, and they've been around for 20 years. I think that should count for something. If we are comparing what a dev who's paid their dues so to speak with a one or two man start up with no portfolio of work, I think I'd place way more scrutiny on the latter. That said, I guess we then end up going back to that discussion of whether established devs should be allowed to do crowdfunding in the first place.
I think this KS will be a make or break for me with any future WayForward attempts at crowdfunding. If Half-Genie Hero ends up failing as a game in any of the ways they promised in the KS, then I think they will deserve more criticism. My half cent of nothing...
I think this KS will be a make or break for me with any future WayForward attempts at crowdfunding. If Half-Genie Hero ends up failing as a game in any of the ways they promised in the KS, then I think they will deserve more criticism. My half cent of nothing...
charlequin
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Because Risky's Revenge is literally half of a game? I mean...
OniBarubary
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I'm never gonna get to play as Rottytops, am I? ;__;
ShinMaruku
Member
I just hope I get bikini Shantae....
Back when when everyone thought they could make an episodic game just because it was the new buzzword, Risky's Revenge was originally going to be Episode 1. If you play it, it's pretty obvious that it wasn't intended to be the complete story, and it's why Pirate's Curse is suck a direct continuation.
They claimed that they added the rest of the content to the DSi game when they switched off of episodic. I'm skeptical considering Shantae GBC is roughly twice as long.
Heh, Kicktraq logged 1637 comments made today, compared to 685 on the second-highest day and a 504 average. People seem to love saying "whoo" and "yay" and "almost there" and "we made it". Source: http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero/#chart-daily
SparksterMeta0
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WISH GRANTED!
Oni Link 666
Member
I'm pretty sure Bozon said that they could do the stretch goal content as DLC on Sup, Holmes?, so don't freak out yet. It would just take a while since they would have to fund the development themselves by working on more licensed games. The situation would have been the same for this whole game. Nothing stops the Shantae train, you can only slow it down.
Doomshroom
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Awsome now go fund River city ransom 2
Vipershark
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Did WayForward ever publicly address the whitewashing?
It seems to have been fixed now, but I don't recall seeing them say anything about it.
It seems to have been fixed now, but I don't recall seeing them say anything about it.
Yeah I'm waiting for paypal, probably drop $45 on this.
Oni Link 666
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Yes, they did. Everyone just go and listen to the Sup, Holmes? with Matt Bozon. He talks aobut the skin color, the stretch goals, how they fund games, the Steam Greenlight, and all kinds of stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDQUa_96N7E
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