No it wouldn't. It would bring their titles to a new audience who might be willing to buy a ps4/5 for the exclusive sequel.
No it wouldn't. It would bring their titles to a new audience who might be willing to buy a ps4/5 for the exclusive sequel.
No it wouldn't. It would bring their titles to a new audience who might be willing to buy a ps4/5 for the exclusive sequel.
I'm sure steam would love skimming off their profits.
No it wouldn't. It would bring their titles to a new audience who might be willing to buy a ps4/5 for the exclusive sequel.
I agree with this. Say they release the exclusive 2 years later pc guys get it, they announce the next exclusive/sequel shortly after. If the game is great they will be tempted to get the next console instead of waiting.
You ll never see a wii u emulator also.
No they will just wait. They have been conditioned to wait for sales and late ports.
You ll never see a wii u emulator also.
I agree with this. Say they release the exclusive 2 years later pc guys get it, they announce the next exclusive/sequel shortly after. If the game is great they will be tempted to get the next console instead of waiting.
Besides I'm sure they won't (at least not in their actual position) I think that would be pretty cool. Would be nice to allow everyone to play it later on PC, and I really don't think it would affect their console sales, at least not if releasing it 2~3 years later. AND, if it did, I'm pretty sure they would recover it with the extra sales.
Yes, but only on a Sony store. Hardware margins are razor thin as is. Releasing even a few months later should let them milk the impatient and then maybe get some double dips.
There will still be plenty of people that want the $300-400 machine with no fuss.
It won't happen with first party.
Right now they will wait for a used/dicounted console and buy used games. Total loss for Sony.
EDIT: Hell, I just realized.
They have an entire back catalog of 1st/3rd party stuff that's only ever been on PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, PS VITA.
Do like SEGA does with genesis junk and throw that shit in official (continuously updated) emulators that run through the client. Sure, we do have a lot of PC based emulators, but the competitive advantage in this case would be "official-ness" of the whole thing. Easy to use, bought it on console PSN for PS3/4/P/V? You own it! Enjoy on PC; Import games, etc.
A bit iffy, and a space with fierce competition, but there could definitely be an audience for that.
Just like all the PC Souls fans got PS4s for Bloodborne instead of clamoring for a port. Oh wait...
They would lose all appeal in owning their console.
No they [PC users] will just wait. They have been conditioned to wait for sales and late ports.
Weird. I remember when the general consensus with Sony fans were that console exclusives (meaning it was available on PC) is good as any exclusive because hey, separate audiences and such.
I guess now that there's more than a couple critically acclaimed PS4 exclusives fanboys didn't need to lean on "console exclusives" and changed their tune.
It's funny how those who use the word often sound like one themselves.
Sony is not as stupid as MS, release first party to a platform without total control diminish a platform they have total control make no sense for them.
Maybe when PC running PlayStation OS with PSN as exclusive store, they might release exclusive on that.
But the reality is that's not what's being asked here. That's never what's being asked in threads like this. Otherwise the thread title would be "Should Sony Release PS4 Exclusives on NX/Xbox/PC/Mac 3 to 4 Years After Release?". See, that would actually be about allowing everyone to play the games. But again, that's not what these threads are ever about. These threads are specifically about PC gamers wanting every single game under the sun on their platform. Pro-consumer and "preservation" are just bullshit arguments brought up to try to make it seem like it's something bigger than that.
Speaking hypothetically - it doesn't have to be Steam.
They could open their own store, like GOG and Origin.
Competitive advantage wise
Steam: popular, sales hype, ecosystem, steam controller, steam exclusives
Origin: they make popular games that people like and pulled their new releases from other platforms
GOG: DRM free
UWP: Former Xbox exclusives, Play our Xbox games here and on several other platforms phone/tablet platforms and Xbox
Sony: Play our Sony games here and nowhere else, except for PS4
People are saying recently that Microsoft is devaluing the value of the of the Xbox brand, and that Sony doing the same thing would crush the sales of the PS4.
At the same time - other people like saying on GAF all the time how PC gamers with 970s and above (or even the bear minimum like the 750ti) are such a small number, according to that damn Steam Hardware survey.
By that reasoning, I see nothing wrong with this, really. Console gamers who don't like PC for all of their reasons (the alleged majority that make Sony and MS all of their money) would still play on PS4. How about all of those PC/PS4 games that keep on happening? Do you think those deals were just devastating to Sony's bottom line due to competition with PC?
Game comes out on PS platforms and makes money. Game comes out on a PC based PSN, makes money.
Sony could still sell 3rd party games through that store. They would just have find/exploit a competitive advantage.Technically, they are way ahead of the game vs steam on penetration into other markets thru DD.
On their Store:
Movies
Music
TV Shows
Some of these (Powers, correct?) are exclusive to their platform. They could still make money through a variety of avenues, using their PlayStation Ecosystem Exclusives as one such advantage. If they did a quality job, PC users would be up for it. These extras can be found on other PC based dd platforms like Netflix/Hulu? Perhaps utilize PS+ in some way. Spin it off, make it enticing.
Or, per this thread, fuck those cheap ass PC port beggers, right everyone?
On this thread's topic: No. Late hand me downs are a missed opportunity.
In this hypothetical wonderland, they should come over as soon as possible, ideally day and date to maximize that day 1 hype money. Worked for MGSV, worked for DS2, worked for DS2:SotFS, worked for DS3. No reason why it couldn't work out for Sony.
EDIT: Hell, I just realized.
They have an entire back catalog of 1st/3rd party stuff that's only ever been on PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, PS VITA.
Do like SEGA does with genesis junk and throw that shit in official (continuously updated) emulators that run through the client. Sure, we do have a lot of PC based emulators, but the competitive advantage in this case would be "official-ness" of the whole thing. Easy to use, bought it on console PSN for PS3/4/P/V? You own it! Enjoy on PC; Import games, etc.
A bit iffy, and a space with fierce competition, but there could definitely be an audience for that.
But the reality is that's not what's being asked here. That's never what's being asked in threads like this. Otherwise the thread title would be "Should Sony Release PS4 Exclusives on NX/Xbox/PC/Mac 3 to 4 Years After Release?". See, that would actually be about allowing everyone to play the games. But again, that's not what these threads are ever about. These threads are specifically about PC gamers wanting every single game under the sun on their platform. Pro-consumer and "preservation" are just bullshit arguments brought up to try to make it seem like it's something bigger than that.
No it wouldn't. It would bring their titles to a new audience who might be willing to buy a ps4/5 for the exclusive sequel.
Don't know man, alot of this disdained pc audience have 240p 3ds and WiiUs as far I see itUnlikely. The PC audience have nothing but disdain for consoles as a platform and would rather: a) wait for a port and b) go without instead of buying what they see as inferior hardware.
Don't know man, alot of this disdained pc audience have 240p 3ds and WiiUs as far I see it
I sort of hope that's where we're going. It's the One Console future of years past. Instead of buying several high-prices boxes you could just have one.Speaking hypothetically - it doesn't have to be Steam.
They could open their own store, like GOG and Origin.
Competitive advantage wise
Steam: popular, sales hype, ecosystem, steam controller, steam exclusives
Origin: they make popular games that people like and pulled their new releases from other platforms
GOG: DRM free
UWP: Former Xbox exclusives, Play our Xbox games here and on several other platforms phone/tablet platforms and Xbox
Sony: Play our Sony games here and nowhere else, except for PS4
People are saying recently that Microsoft is devaluing the value of the of the Xbox brand, and that Sony doing the same thing would crush the sales of the PS4.
At the same time - other people like saying on GAF all the time how PC gamers with 970s and above (or even the bear minimum like the 750ti) are such a small number, according to that damn Steam Hardware survey.
By that reasoning, I see nothing wrong with this, really. Console gamers who don't like PC for all of their reasons (the alleged majority that make Sony and MS all of their money) would still play on PS4. How about all of those PC/PS4 games that keep on happening? Do you think those deals were just devastating to Sony's bottom line due to competition with PC?
Game comes out on PS platforms and makes money. Game comes out on a PC based PSN, makes money.
Sony could still sell 3rd party games through that store. They would just have find/exploit a competitive advantage.Technically, they are way ahead of the game vs steam on penetration into other markets thru DD.
On their Store:
Movies
Music
TV Shows
Some of these (Powers, correct?) are exclusive to their platform. They could still make money through a variety of avenues, using their PlayStation Ecosystem Exclusives as one such advantage. If they did a quality job, PC users would be up for it. These extras can be found on other PC based dd platforms like Netflix/Hulu? Perhaps utilize PS+ in some way. Spin it off, make it enticing.
Or, per this thread, fuck those cheap ass PC port beggers, right everyone?
On this thread's topic: No. Late hand me downs are a missed opportunity.
In this hypothetical wonderland, they should come over as soon as possible, ideally day and date to maximize that day 1 hype money. Worked for MGSV, worked for DS2, worked for DS2:SotFS, worked for DS3. No reason why it couldn't work out for Sony.
EDIT: Hell, I just realized.
They have an entire back catalog of 1st/3rd party stuff that's only ever been on PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, PS VITA.
Do like SEGA does with genesis junk and throw that shit in official (continuously updated) emulators that run through the client. Sure, we do have a lot of PC based emulators, but the competitive advantage in this case would be "official-ness" of the whole thing. Easy to use, bought it on console PSN for PS3/4/P/V? You own it! Enjoy on PC; Import games, etc.
A bit iffy, and a space with fierce competition, but there could definitely be an audience for that.
Don't know man, alot of this disdained pc audience have 240p 3ds and WiiUs as far I see it
Alot of them have it for Sony ips as well when I look at this threadEverybody has a soft spot for Nintendo left from their childhood.
Yeah then I agree with youDid a bit of an edit that agrees with you.
You can play PS4 games with PSNow.Maybe as a "Remaster" only.
I can't see why game studios would spent this amount of money to make a good port(because we all know what happen to bad ports) and not get same amount of money as on release
I was having a talk with some friends about this. One of them brought up the point that after 3 to 4 years they've most likely made a good majority of their sales on games like Bloodborne, Infamous Second Son, Killzone SF, etc. There are tons of copies for resale in most stores for super cheap. Why not make an attempt to port some of them for the PC maybe 3 to 4 years after they originally release?
I'm sure the PC crowd would eat up Bloodborne with many people no doubt double or triple dipping. Then you can imagine that a Neo patch might come out that will bump up the AA, the FPS to 60, and add some other bells and whistles like maybe better looking blood and such. These could just be settings on the PC for those with the stronger rigs needed to run them. Then on top of that Sony could do cross play between PS4/Neo and PC players and possibly reinvigorate a flagging MP scene on the console side.
Obviously there are porting costs as I'm sure some of the engines Sony first party developers are using would need some tweaking as would the game to run a wide gamut of PC gaming hardware. Though they already have excellent porting studios like Bluepoint and could no doubt find others to work with to help them do this. Anyways, what say you GAF?
So does this idea sound insane to you GAF or could it be a sensible move for Sony?Extend the life of their games, preserve and grow multiplayer player pools, and of course make them more money by selling to a crowd who might never had a chance to touch these games. And of course... modding but that could be the elephant in the room I Suppose.
You can play PS4 games with PSNow.
Releasing a downgrade version will spawn lots of inferior ports thread.
We can see a lot of Remastered Sony exclusives in Steam nowadays.