Yeah, you're completely right.
Man, I'd kill for a new Silent Hill games with Ito in charge of the art.
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Silent Hill Community Thread: "There was a title here...It's gone now"
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Yeah, you're completely right.
Man, I'd kill for a new Silent Hill games with Ito in charge of the art.
SolidSnakex
Member
Yep, she did several songs for the Shadows of the Damned soundtrack (which Yamaoka composed).
Gintoki313
Banned
I think the Kojima rumor started when Kojima said this when asked about directing the next Silent Hill:
I would love if Kojima could use his graphics engine on the game, and maybe supervise the script. Put some of his ideas on it, but not handle it fully. I could see it working, and actually would be pretty excited about it. The possibility of this happening is very slim, especially since he is already working on MGS right now.
Typographenia
Member
Hi, my name is Dustin, and I have a Silent Hill addiction.
Just take it with you.
Member
I remember reading about that and the executive meddling that led to SH3. SH3, while still a good game, shows where the "rot" started with the series IMO due to said executive meddling. It's a shame Team Silent couldn't pull off some of their other ideas, like the daylight game or whatever it was they were thinking about.
At any rate, SH4 really turned me off of the series, so I didn't bother with any of the subsequent games, but we'll always have SH1-3.
One thing I always liked about the SH games the "Game Result"/Results screen music.
SH1
SH2
SH3
SH4
I have no idea, but you're so right.
They're fantastic, both technically and artistically. It's been said a million times already, but I really think the models on Homecoming look worse than the PS2 models, despite the generation gap.
PeregrinSe7en
Member
id love a new silent hill on ps4
bring back team silent and yamaoka!
bring back team silent and yamaoka!
CaptainSchwann
Member
It pains me every time people slight SH4. Game was at least unique in its execution, and I felt like Walter served as an engaging antagonist. Great OST as well, though for the SH series that's a given 
Also, so glad to see a SH community thread.
Also, so glad to see a SH community thread.
Agreed. From what I know about Downpour, it's a technical mess and it has a simple art direction. If Ito could handle the art, with an engine developed in-house (like FOX Engine is), then maybe it can go back to a good direction.
Typographenia
Member
Haha, hey Monk!Hi Dustin! Long time no see!
For this thread, maybe I should get around to actually writing out my "The UFO Endings are Canon" theory.
He commented on it more recently and candidly during a Q and A with Geoff Keighley. But even if KojiPro was just lending their tech and supervision, that would still be awesome.
RedAssedApe
Banned
would be nice to have silent hill going back to being a graphical showcase like it was during the ps2 era. was always impressed by those games
SH3 on PC's character models still look better than a lot of games last gen...
CaptainSchwann
Member
All that rust in glorious HD
Haeralis The BRave
Banned
Did anyone else manage to do the Silent Hill 2 10 star ranking? That was so difficult, but rewarding. Easily my proudest platinum trophy ever.
Gintoki313
Banned
As big a Silent Hill fan I am, even I didn't know he did a follow-up comment on it.
Darn it! Why did you show me this!? Now I really hope he gets to work on it in some way in the future. Regardless, I wouldn't mind if Kojima, or anyone works on it. I just want to see another Silent Hill game. Hopefully made for PS4, Xbox One, and PC.
I only finished 2 and Shattered Memories,currently playing 3.
2 and SM are really good,but 3 could be my favorite.
2 loses points ,because the default weapon can easily stun lock most enemies.
That damage the atmosphere for me a bit.
SM has flaws,but the story is really good and makes up for most of them.
Right now it's
3>2>SM
...assuming 3 stays as good as it is right now(I played for 4 hours).
I have 1 and 4.I'm planning to play them soon.
However,I already played many horror games lately,which means it's time for a break after 3.
2 and SM are really good,but 3 could be my favorite.
2 loses points ,because the default weapon can easily stun lock most enemies.
That damage the atmosphere for me a bit.
SM has flaws,but the story is really good and makes up for most of them.
Right now it's
3>2>SM
...assuming 3 stays as good as it is right now(I played for 4 hours).
I have 1 and 4.I'm planning to play them soon.
However,I already played many horror games lately,which means it's time for a break after 3.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Videos
Making of Silent Hill 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoIJ2EzUtpo
Making of Silent Hill 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1VKvED76WQ
Making of Silent Hill 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiH4wOkSzGs
Silent Hill Usagi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0hQf9byfwI
Silent Hill Ki-Ni-No: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70VzcbT0e9o
Silent Hill Fukuro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O-kHCibgYg
Silent Hill Caramel Mix Akira Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgdYyfVIhP8
Silent Hill Experience Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262iBUpATRc
Dance Evolution Masters Silent Hill Stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soiVLyYCSlM
Dance Dance Revolution Silent Hill Stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SrWe36y4tQ
Pyramid Head in Krazy Kart Racer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVJR-l58FQ
Silent Hill 4 MTV Official Music Video: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...-the-room-taking-back-sunday---silent-hill-mv
I'll have to check which of these are included, but there was a Japan DVD release compiling some of this media titled Silent Hill: Lost Memories.
I also just started playing Book of Memories what is this I don't even
sublimit
Banned
There was a great series here...it's gone now.
Actually the greatness in this series has been gone ever since 2003.
This fucking series. I only really love 1 and 2 (and consider both near enough masterpieces) but I can't stay away from this series and have to keep trying new games that appear. Admittedly I've enjoyed some of the later games (i'm also one of the few who like Homecoming) but that special feeling of 1 and 2 just has never reappeared, doubt it will either anytime soon tbh. Though saying that, not played Downpour yet so maybe one day I'll give it a go.
Gintoki313
Banned
Thanks! I had some help from Dusk Golem to make this. I think it turned out very well.
I'll have to check which of these are included, but there was a Japan DVD release compiling some of this media titled Silent Hill: Lost Memories.
I also just started playing Book of Memories what is this I don't even
OP, there was also a PSP UMD release that is (for the most part) motion comics called The Silent Hill Experience:
I'll add both of them, thanks.
Given the recent mediocroty of the series, I'd be willing to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Kojima directing a SH game could be super interesting.
I wanted to attempt it, but never did. You pretty much have to know the game like the back of your hand, just never felt up for learning the game to that depth.
OP, there was also a PSP UMD release that is (for the most part) motion comics called The Silent Hill Experience:
This was pretty awesome. The interviews with Christophe Gans were pretty interesting, he really knew the SH universe well.
legacyzero
Banned
Yep. I really hope this series comes back strong!
TheJollyCorner
Member
It pains me every time people slight SH4. Game was at least unique in its execution, and I felt like Walter served as an engaging antagonist. Great OST as well, though for the SH series that's a given
Also, so glad to see a SH community thread.
SH4 is frustrating because a lot of potential was left on the table... and I think there are two major reasons for that:
-It started development as a new IP (a traditional Japanese ghost story) and was converted to a SH, so project concentration within the entire team presumably had to switch.
-Extra development time was not added to compensate for the switch.
Even converted from an original IP, SH4 could have retained those ideas and still remained very unique, yet still having a good connection to the series. The problem is it appears there wasn't enough time to make the proper adjustments (how much more would adding a proper 'otherworld' have helped?); the monster designs seem like they were intentionally made to separate the game from a SH game, so when it actually became a SH game many of the designs, including the ghosts, lacked originality compared to the work Ito did for SH1-3.
The end game backtracking, stock sound effects, and seemingly dozens of Yamaoka songs not even making it into the game show the game still needed a good amount of production time.
A damn shame, because there was a lot of fascinating stuff there.
psychotron
Member
I love this thread and am saddened at the same time. It's making me feel like there's an announcement imminent when there most likely is not. I'll take an entire series PS4 remaster done properly in the meantime.
Tidus_Great
Banned
yeah, i love kojima but his style is not suited for a silent hill game.and his storytelling method is basically the opposite of SH2 which told the story through a few cutscenes but mostly the atmosphere and symbolism.
if kojima directed SH2 James would have a 40 minute codec conversation with maria shooting the shit
TheJollyCorner
Member
yeah, i love kojima but his style is not suited for a silent hill game.and his storytelling method is basically the opposite of SH2 which told the story through a few cutscenes but mostly the atmosphere and symbolism.
if kojima directed SH2 James would have a 40 minute codec conversation with maria shooting the shit
Kojima has enough batshit insane ideas that if his mind could tap into the horror genre I have no doubt that it would be... interesting... to say the very least. There would probably be a barrage of mind-fucks by the end of the game.
That said, I'd rather he act as an executive-producer, throw his clout in to convince Konami the game deserves a decent production budget, dig up someone like Tsuboyama to direct/Owaku to write (hey, a good selling point: "From the minds of Silent Hill 2"), and push the project as a means to further show off the Fox Engine. Best case scenario right there, IMO.
I've only played 1, 2 and 4. I would rank those 2, 4, 1. Though its been so long since I've played one I really should do it again.
At first I really wasn't impressed by 4, but after mulling over the plot I really enjoyed it
Also, my fondest memories are:
1) Turning on expert puzzles and being absolutely stumped at like the first one.
2) Light bulbs in a can.
4) Walters story/motives. (I think he was named Walter, right?)
Everyone seems to love 3, I really should find a way to play it huh?
At first I really wasn't impressed by 4, but after mulling over the plot I really enjoyed it
Also, my fondest memories are:
1) Turning on expert puzzles and being absolutely stumped at like the first one.
2) Light bulbs in a can.
4) Walters story/motives. (I think he was named Walter, right?)
Everyone seems to love 3, I really should find a way to play it huh?
TheJollyCorner
Member
I hope you can get a chance to play the PS2 (PC?) version, as the voice acting is much better in my opinion than the re-dub for the 'HD Collection' PS3/360 version.
SH3 is actually pretty freaky. Some of the in-game effects (i.e. the otherworld) are just amazing. The technical wizards within the Silent Hill Team really did outstanding work and the overall art direction is very strong.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Am I the only one who thinks Origins is seriously underrated? The character designs and graphics were awful, but boy did they nail the feel of the early Silent Hill games.
TheJollyCorner
Member
I think it was a solid attempt, but the things that bugged me bugged me a lot (PSP version here).
-Travis seemed like he was made of glass. I appreciate the whole 'normal guy' thing, but when enemies are fairly aggressive & Travis can only take about 3 solid hits without healing I found it pretty easy to die quickly in the game.
-The 'breakable weapons' thing was much worse than SH4 and Downpour, IMO.
-The camera was goddamn terrible a good deal of the time, even for tank-survival horror standards. There were a few times I couldn't see shit because the camera would get screwy. Combine that with my first two issues and there were multiple times I got very frustrated with the game.
That said, I think for a PSP game it looked fantastic, the story (for a 'prequel' game, which I normally hate) was decent, some of the locations (like the theater) were interesting, and I thought it had the best, most Ito-like creature designs of all the outsourced SH games.
I think Climax has done well with their two SH games.
Darkangel
Member
Anyone know the best settings for Silent Hill 4 in PCSX2? I'm getting some graphical glitches on character faces with the default settings.
Since I'm on the topic of Silent Hill 4, are there any graphical differences between the Xbox and PS2 versions? I'm pretty sure the Xbox version runs in 480p and has Dolby 5.1.
Since I'm on the topic of Silent Hill 4, are there any graphical differences between the Xbox and PS2 versions? I'm pretty sure the Xbox version runs in 480p and has Dolby 5.1.
melichrous
Member
I've only played SH3, and I really loved it. Was pretty creeped out at quite a few points in it.
Seeing this thread has reminded me I need to play through the others, so I reckon I'll buy them on my Vita when I go home this weekend.
Related to that, how do the older ones hold up? Do they still play well? (Specifically on the vita)
Seeing this thread has reminded me I need to play through the others, so I reckon I'll buy them on my Vita when I go home this weekend.
Related to that, how do the older ones hold up? Do they still play well? (Specifically on the vita)
paradise_circus
Member
I recently replayed the first four games on the ps2 and man I was scared even more than I played the games as I was 12 to 16 years old.
Seems like I accumulated some psychic problems.
Seems like I accumulated some psychic problems.
Gintoki313
Banned
Add his stamina to the list as well. He could only run for a few seconds before he has to walk. I also hated the way nutrition drinks were used. I think it recovered his health half way, which didn't help much. Like you mentioned, he can only take 3 hits before he's dead.
RadioHeadAche
Member
OP, Pyamid Head was in the International Track and Field for the Nintendo DS too, and is the only reason I bought it.
I would love a console port of Silent Hill: The Arcade. I know Konami won't do it, but I'd love to play it sometime.
I would love a console port of Silent Hill: The Arcade. I know Konami won't do it, but I'd love to play it sometime.
RadioHeadAche
Member
That DVD has the music videos and maybe some game trailers, but nothing from SH4 as it was a promotional item for Silent Hill 3.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Yes. It would not have been possible without the "Dog" ending. I also barely made the requirement for damage taken.
Just got through Downpour. I got 2 of the endings, and I completed all of the side quests. I'll have to go through another time to collect all of the memorabilia for Murphy's Journal. All in all, not too bad. Had some good art, and direction. Only part that rubs me wrong is that
So why is he even there then?
Murphy's crime changes depending on the ending. If you play it good, he never actually kills anyone.
I think just looking at the first Phantom Pain trailer (before it was announced to be Metal Gear Solid V), you can tell that he has a knack for creating a creepy, heavy atmosphere which I think is probably the most important aspect in any Silent Hill game. I'd love to see what he comes up with.Kojima has enough batshit insane ideas that if his mind could tap into the horror genre I have no doubt that it would be... interesting... to say the very least. There would probably be a barrage of mind-fucks by the end of the game.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Mmmmm, I always love me some Silent Hill! One of my favourite franchises! Very curious to know where Konami is going to take the franchise. As long as they keep it a Lynchian, pyschological, single-player experience, I will likely be quite pleased.