BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Never played a Silent Hill game. (Or really played a RE game either)
Worth it?
Worth it?
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Silent Hill HD Collection: New Screens/Video
- Thread starter Typographenia
- Start date
TheDarkKnight774
Member
of course. SH games are some of the best horror games ever made. Get SH1 on PSN as well
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Absolutely. Be aware that SH and RE have different approaches towards horror though, as RE was more visceral and 'in your face' with jump scares, while SH was more about psychological horror and creating an unsettling atmosphere via music and sound effects.
In MGS2 and 3 the core games were almost completely unchanged. It's only a few extras like skateboarding and the nightmare that weren't done for technical reasons and, while neat, they're unimportant to the actual experience. That is nothing compared to what they're doing to Silent Hill. This is Lucas levels of revisionist insanity. The atmosphere of the opening monologue is completely boned - there is no fog whatsoever and it's way too dark. They changed the music. The VO sync is awful. Every time they show off this collection it looks more and more abhorrent.
RadioHeadAche
Member
You can hear some of Heather's dialogue in this trailer for the collection. I really liked the original VA, but the new one doesn't sound bad at all.
BakedPigeon
Banned
Wow... the new voice acting is pretty bad. Something about it just does not do justice.....
XANDER CAGE
Member
What the hell is going on with SH3's lighting in this collection? It looks nonexistent. I played the series on PS2 recently and this is barely recognizable.
toddhunter
Member
From what I have heard so far, the new voice acting sounds a lot better. The silent hill games are great, and I love them all, but they are hardly great because of the voice/controls/graphics (mostly). As such I'm fine for them to adjust these thing and make them better.
If they mess with the general atmosphere/sense of foreboding, as mentioned above though, that would be a bit of a let down (otherwise known as the recent silent hill games).
BakedPigeon
Banned
It sounds more quality... yes. The new voice clips I have heard carry the same amount of enthusiasm as the original.
DarknessTear
Banned
As far as I know, you can switch the audio back to the original audio if you want to, so I don't see much of a reason to really complain.
Snapshot King
Member
Not for Silent Hill 3 you can't, and the missing effects are troubling.
DarknessTear
Banned
Ahhh. I've never played all the way through 2 and I never played 3. Not sure what to think of this collection.
disappeared
Banned
Poor Heather.
Snapshot King
Member
What drives me the craziest is that I'll be grabbing this collection no matter how terrible it is just to have the excuse to buy Silent Hill 2 again. That and be able to play the games with a wireless controller.
RadioHeadAche
Member
...and on my PS3 with wireless headphones.
no original VA for SH3 ?
no buy
All the bent out of shapeness for SH2 VA but, the talent in 3 is getting ignored :/
I already heard the new voice and her swinging her weapon is annoying enough...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Maybe not for James, but Mary was way better in the original, at least for me.
I can't say for the other voices.
Actually, I don't think I agree with you. The new VA's seemed to be just as stilted and awkward as the originals (probably because they are aiming to match the delivery for the sake of lip-sync), and some of the voices just don't match the characters at all. Mary's new voice sounds like a breathy, depressed, old woman. Jame's new, deeper voice doesn't match the look of the character at all.
Even though the delivery was "off" in the original VA, at least the voice actors matched their characters. This is just awful. This whole ordeal makes me want to cry, seeing as how SH2 and SH3 are two of my favorite games of all time. They deserved better, damn it.
legacyzero
Banned
THIS.
I think the original VA was "off" on purpose though. I think that's what made it unique. It fit the SH feel.
It wouldn't matter anyway. SH3 has new VA only, so in any case - no buy. Also all the monies will go to suits @ konami and those new awful new voice actors.
and they don't deserve 1 cent
Whoever buys this should consider that buying it tells Konami "yeah, I'm fully fine with you ruining the games, just because you didn't want to pay the original VAs and are cheap bastards". If it totally flops, noone will ever dare to pull such stunts again.
Criminal Upper
Banned
I remember reading how they're making all these improvements to the visuals, re-did some textures, lighting, etc....
I last played SH2 like, 5 years ago, and never played SH3. Soo...why do these new changes make the game look worse? Legit asking here.
I last played SH2 like, 5 years ago, and never played SH3. Soo...why do these new changes make the game look worse? Legit asking here.
kunonabi
Member
just watched the kotaku comparison vid. Just awful. The scene with James by his car is just butchered. Old Mary's reading of the letter is just so much better than the new one. Guy's monologue is superior and the new music just kills the scene.
I'm actually not sure what I think of Angela. I fully expected to like the new voice better since Angela was really the only I didn't like before. Problem is the voice sounds much too normal and too young for Angela's model. I know Angela is supposed to be young but her character model and voice never fit that. Changing one without the other doesn't really fix the problem and just makes it even more awkward.
now is the changed music only with the new recording? Kotaku's vid of the old voices sounds fine.
I'm actually not sure what I think of Angela. I fully expected to like the new voice better since Angela was really the only I didn't like before. Problem is the voice sounds much too normal and too young for Angela's model. I know Angela is supposed to be young but her character model and voice never fit that. Changing one without the other doesn't really fix the problem and just makes it even more awkward.
now is the changed music only with the new recording? Kotaku's vid of the old voices sounds fine.
Yes.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Changed the acoustic guitar into an electric guitar for some tracks, apparently
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Seems like at some points they did change the music, well...more precisely the instruments, (an electric guitar sounds instead of the acoustic guitar) it sounds more or less the same, but it is a strange change.
We don't know how much it will change throught the game, though.
Risk Breaker
Member
Dear Lord... as much as I like McGlynn and O'Brien, the new voice acting is TERRIBAD. I still haven't heard 3's though. I'm sure it's even worse.
faceless007
Member
New James is too gravelly and breathy. And it sounds like they added reverb for some reason.
But they included the original so yay.
But they included the original so yay.
Typographenia
Member
Just rent it or buy it and form your own opinion. : )
Don't let the people in here ruin, what could potentially become a favorite game, just because the voices are different.
Like2Drive
Banned
You can't Konami do good by us for once?
Oh shit, I didn't think of that. That's probably one of the most terrible things about the lack of original voices in SH3. The impressive facial animations ruined by (probably) improper synchronization:
Example 1: 8MB gif
Example 2:
Example 3:
How About No
Member
I just watched the SH3 vid. Heather's new voice just sounds so damn wroong
Is there a video with new voices? I think the only officially released video that features Heather's new voice was a HD Collection trailer, and Heather doesn't say much there.
...where?
No, the PS2 or Xbox versions are in 480p and unable to be scaled to a higher resolution. You would have to play either the the PC version of SH3 for the original experience, while the HD collection version of SH2 consists of the original stuff.
So for playing either game in their original version in HD, it's:
SH2: HD Collection with old sound track or the PC version
SH3: PC version.
Naked Snake
Member
Stereo 3D support please.
Honestly, the PC version of Silent Hill 2 isn't even that good. It has a lot of missing visual effects (though it seems this collection will too). The best experience remains on PS2 using an old CRT.
nincompoop
Banned
Wrong! (Skip to 1:06 for non-blurry footage)
I didn't even realize the Silent Hill games were working on PCSX2, I should give them a whirl some time.
Damn, I just watched the video - the SH2 is clearly based off PC version (nasty sharp shadows for the lossdark10x said:
). My hype for this dramatically deflated now -_-I'd argue the best would be whenever PCSX2 runs it properly (still through CRT though - even SH3 on PC looks better on a CRT - with ultra high AA it's like a moving painting, and you won't get that on LCDs).
Ehm, your video just corroborates my claim that the PC version of SH3 is the one to play if you want to play it as originally intended. The video you posted has severe issues, because emulating SH3 through PCSX2 is not as stable as the regular PC versions.
As seen in your video, the colour filter is all blue and the framerate is atrociously low. I could imagine you run into a lot more bugs and artefacts in the game as you go along. Additionally, you do not get the chance to properly change the FOV and avoid the usual stretched 4:3 image seen in PS2 games.
Typographenia
Member
Did someone say FOV?
Someone over on SHH is currently fiddling around with an insane FOV and playing around with running the games in 3D. Pretty entertaining, to say the least.