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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don

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SuperAngelo64 said:
Jonk is GAF's luckiest guesser, nothing more.
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I don't know...I visit Starmen.Net and I'm inclined to believe Jonk. I think that if any fansite were to have any kind of inside information, it would be Starmen. If Pokey ends up playing a role in the Subspace Emissary like Jonk said, I'll consider his info legit.
 
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Shig

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So I was thinking about the My Music feature... how exactly is it going to pan out for franchises that have very little music to draw upon, like Kid Icarus and Ice Climbers? The music arrangement we heard for Kid Icarus already covered pretty much every theme in the game, so where are they going to draw upon if they're gonna have more than that one theme selectable? Multiple remixes of the main theme, or will they create new tracks 'in the spirit of' the game's original music?

Or maybe could we see some cross-franchise additions to help pad those out; there's no shortage of ice-themed levels in Nintendo games, so maybe Ice Climbers' level could draw on those... for example, stuff like Sasha's theme from AWDS, Phendrana Drifts from MP, and Gorilla Glacier from DKC could fit such a stage very well. They may be from seperate franchises but they'd thematically fit in much moreso with the IC's level than they would with their own series' stages, such as the lava-filled Metroid stage or the bright, sunny Donkey Kong one.
 
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Scribble said:
Eh, I know you guys hate Krystal, but most character predictions are made based on who is most likely, and not just personal preference. Otherwise we'd all be randomly shouting Goombario for Brawl! Or Ryo Hazuki for Brawl!

Let's look at the most popular, 'most major' or most significant Nintendo ladeez:

Krystal
Dixie Kong
Tiny Kong
Micaiah (Fire Emblem RD/Wii)
Kumatora (Mother 3)
Mona
Ashley
Kat and Ana
Jody Summers
Daisy
Pauline
Captain Syrup
Dark Samus
Paula
Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)
Lip
Midna
Tetra

I've probably missed a few. But here are the most likely ones (In no particular order, except Krystal is the most likely):

1. Krystal (Has a huge fanbase, although I'm not part of it. Plays a major role in the most recent SF games)

2. Micaiah (Which would be a terrible choice, IMO. Ike already represents

3. Dixie Kong (She was big in her day, not so now. But she nearly kicked as much ass as
Samus. Her design is pretty awful, though)

4. Mona (Wario's Peach! And has been in every WarioWare since the beginning)

5. Dark Samus (The most likely -- and best -- Metroid option if Ridley isn't a PC)

6. Midna (I think she's one of the best LoZ characters ever, but I think she'd be better as an AT. I just don't want her to be a PC due to personal preference)
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You forgot Sami.
 
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Shig said:
So I was thinking about the My Music feature... how exactly is it going to pan out for franchises that have very little music to draw upon, like Kid Icarus and Ice Climbers? The music arrangement we heard for Kid Icarus already covered pretty much every theme in the game, so where are they going to draw upon if they're gonna have more than that one theme selectable? Multiple remixes of the main theme, or will they create new tracks 'in the spirit of' the game's original music?
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I guess they could always draw on the Gameboy game that approximately five people actually played.

Shig said:
Or maybe could we see some cross-franchise additions to help pad those out; there's no shortage of ice-themed levels in Nintendo games, so maybe Ice Climbers' level could draw on those... for example, stuff like Sasha's theme from AWDS, Phendrana Drifts from MP, and Gorilla Glacier from DKC could fit such a stage very well, while from seperate franchises they'd thematically fit in much moreso with the IC's level than they would with the lava-filled Metroid stage or the bright, sunny Donkey Kong one.
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I like this idea.

JJConrad said:
At first, I thought this was a Sonic stage. Forgiverance? Please?
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I guess the colours could make you mistake it for a Carnival Night Zone level at first glance...okay. You're forgiven...this time...
 
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Shig said:
So I was thinking about the My Music feature... how exactly is it going to pan out for franchises that have very little music to draw upon, like Kid Icarus and Ice Climbers? The music arrangement we heard for Kid Icarus already covered pretty much every theme in the game, so where are they going to draw upon if they're gonna have more than that one theme selectable? Multiple remixes of the main theme, or will they create new tracks 'in the spirit of' the game's original music?

Or maybe could we see some cross-franchise additions to help pad those out; there's no shortage of ice-themed levels in Nintendo games, so maybe Ice Climbers' level could draw on those... for example, stuff like Sasha's theme from AWDS, Phendrana Drifts from MP, and Gorilla Glacier from DKC could fit such a stage very well. They may be from seperate franchises but they'd thematically fit in much moreso with the IC's level than they would with their own series' stages, such as the lava-filled Metroid stage or the bright, sunny Donkey Kong one.
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What, are there no boss battle themes for KI?

And isn't the "vegetable collection" sequence in Ice Climber with its own song?
 
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my two predictions:

1: tails as an assist trophy

2: sonic stage. of course. with robotnik flying around. one of those stages from sonic 3 in casino land would be outstanding...with pipes shooting people around, the awesome fusion jazz techno music, and lots of bumpers
 
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I'm not expecting a Sonic update for a while. In fact, I think that this week we'll either get updates from franchises that haven't gotten Dojo updates in a while (F-Zero, Zelda...) or boring stuff like items and Smash 101. I do expect a music update this week, though.

Normally I'd predict Norfair, but since I don't think Sakurai will do two stages in a row (you never know, though), I'm predicting a returning veteran tonight, probably Captain Falcon.
 
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Shig said:
So I was thinking about the My Music feature... how exactly is it going to pan out for franchises that have very little music to draw upon, like Kid Icarus and Ice Climbers? The music arrangement we heard for Kid Icarus already covered pretty much every theme in the game, so where are they going to draw upon if they're gonna have more than that one theme selectable?
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Kid Icarus has more amazing songs than just the Underworld theme.

Fortress theme
Overworld theme
Sky World theme
Sky Palace theme
Medusa's theme
Boss battle

:D
 
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I predict another Subspace Emissary update for tomorrow. Oh, and Viewtiful Joe will be officially announced as an AT soon.


sp0rsk said:
I never said that!

My opinion is that stickies should mostly be for threads that aren't super popular but need exposure. Also official game threads.

This thread has no problems staying on the front page, so theres no real point in stickying.
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<3 I think it's a little from column A and a little from column B. :p
 
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IF there was a female representative for the Advance Wars series, I would be willing to bet it would be a heroine from the new game coming in January, and not Sami, since they've apparently dumped the old crew. This is just my speculation, though.
 
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I predict--

SuperAngelo64 said:
It's already the largest GAF thread ever.

But I think sp0rsk said he's going to force us to migrate to another thread for the "Official Smash Bros Brawl Thread".
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--that the official SSBB thread won't manage half the size of the finished version of this one.



In all seriousness, predictions later tonight. In accordance with GhaleonQ wanting wackier predictions from us all, I'll figure something out...
 
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Jiggy37 said:
I predict--

--that the official SSBB thread won't manage half the size of the finished version of this one.
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Nothing will ever match the finished size of this one. This topic will become a GAF legend.
 
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Why can't this thread become the official Brawl thread when the game is released? There shouldn't be a need for a thread about updates by then.
 
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jamesinclair

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Excellent. The only thing missing now are moving stages. And I dont mean moving background, I mean like the Fzero stage with the racecars and the mario princess level. And pokefloats.
 
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Assist Trophy named "Sonics Shitty Friends"

All those characters who's name's i have yet to learn run out and pat chaos.
 
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Grecco said:
Awesome looking stage.

Cant wait to see the Sonic themed stage.
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You know what would be awesome?

If it was a repeating stage like F-Zero from Melee, going through a level in ye olde Sonic that moves along to the right automatically in much a similar fashion to the PokeFloats stage (but faster!).

Tell me that wouldn't rock the balls of every living creature on planet this one.
 
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Jiggy37 said:
I like how we're all identifiable by the red Xs.
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We exceeded their PHP quota, apparently. And I'm willing to bet that it's basically our fault.

Kabuki Waq said:
does it really matter you whores?
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That's an unnecessarily venomous reply. You aren't from the Halo 3 thread by any chance, are you?
 
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So does the chimera hide disguised as the rubber ducky until you get close? That's what would seem to make the most sense, as then it would be avoidable but still requires concentration to avoid.
 
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JKBii said:
Why can't this thread become the official Brawl thread when the game is released?
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Because this thread is over 300 pages long, with over 30,000 posts - when official threads already quickly become intimidatingly difficult to keep up with, why make it worse by turning a huge existing thread into the official one?
 
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Shig

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CreatureX3 said:
Kid Icarus has more amazing songs than just the Underworld theme.

Fortress theme
Overworld theme
Sky World theme
Sky Palace theme
Medusa's theme
Boss battle

:D
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Most of 'em are just variations on the main theme, though. And the boss battle music is repetitive and uninspired.

Anyway, just because a game has a good handful of tracks doesn't mean all those tracks will go well with Smash. There's a ton of quality Mario or Zelda tracks that just won't (and shouldn't) be put in because they're simply not the type of music that's condusive to fighting to. KI and IC shouldn't have tracks that don't go well with a fighting game put in simply because there's not anything else to choose from, when they could go the route I suggested and draw from a larger bank of well-fitting, more iconic songs from other games. It's the best of both worlds.
 
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Cosmonaut X said:
Because this thread is over 300 pages long, with over 30,000 posts - when official threads already quickly become intimidatingly difficult to keep up with, why make it worse by turning a huge existing thread into the official one?
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Good point... although it would be fun to watch this thread to grow to even greater heights than will be achieved by february, that is what is truly fair to all the players of SSBB.
 
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JohnTinker said:
IF there was a female representative for the Advance Wars series, I would be willing to bet it would be a heroine from the new game coming in January, and not Sami, since they've apparently dumped the old crew. This is just my speculation, though.
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Ling?
 
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We don't know if Ling is a true main character or just one of many, but that one amnesia girl is certainly a story focus. :D Question is whether she's even a playable CO or just there for the sake of the story, though...


Edit: Clarification... What I mean is, we don't even know if Ling comes from the main army, or even what the main army is. She could be the "Sasha" of AWDS2 rather than a "Sami" or "Rachel."
 
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Hey, considering Sakurai was releasing info at a pace to coincide with a December release, do you guys think that the pace of cool updates will slow down now that the game is coming out two months later?
 
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-WindYoshi- said:
Good point... although it would be fun to watch this thread to grow to even greater heights than will be achieved by february, that is what is truly fair to all the players of SSBB.
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If this thread did become the official one upon release, it would be epic. The official thread will undoubtedly have a long lifespan of its own and combined with the thousands of posts already made, will become so dense with posts that it will form a black hole and swallow the world.
 
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Scribble said:
Eh, I know you guys hate Krystal, but most character predictions are made based on who is most likely, and not just personal preference. Otherwise we'd all be randomly shouting Goombario for Brawl! Or Ryo Hazuki for Brawl!

Let's look at the most popular, 'most major' or most significant Nintendo ladeez:

Krystal
Dixie Kong
Tiny Kong
Micaiah (Fire Emblem RD/Wii)
Kumatora (Mother 3)
Mona
Ashley
Kat and Ana
Jody Summers
Daisy
Pauline
Captain Syrup
Dark Samus
Paula
Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)
Lip
Midna
Tetra

I've probably missed a few. But here are the most likely ones (In no particular order, except Krystal is the most likely):

1. Krystal (Has a huge fanbase, although I'm not part of it. Plays a major role in the most recent SF games)

2. Micaiah (Which would be a terrible choice, IMO. Ike already represents

3. Dixie Kong (She was big in her day, not so now. But she nearly kicked as much ass as
Samus. Her design is pretty awful, though)

4. Mona (Wario's Peach! And has been in every WarioWare since the beginning)

5. Dark Samus (The most likely -- and best -- Metroid option if Ridley isn't a PC)

6. Midna (I think she's one of the best LoZ characters ever, but I think she'd be better as an AT. I just don't want her to be a PC due to personal preference)
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We already have two variations of Samus, I don't think we need a third. Krystal and Midna are a) the most likely and b) would make the best choices.
 
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Shig said:
Most of 'em are just variations on the main theme, though. And the boss battle music is repetitive and uninspired.

Anyway, just because a game has a good handful of tracks doesn't mean all those tracks will go well with Smash. There's a ton of quality Mario or Zelda tracks that just won't (and shouldn't) be put in because they're simply not the type of music that's condusive to fighting to. KI and IC shouldn't have tracks that don't go well with a fighting game put in simply because there's not anything else to choose from, when they could go the route I suggested and draw from a larger bank of well-fitting, more iconic songs from other games. It's the best of both worlds.
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The 'Fortress' and 'Overworld' themes definitely would make great fighting music. Also if they made 'Ashley's Theme' and 'DK rap' into fighting songs, pretty much anything goes. :lol
 
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Incidentally, having Paula in will never happen, but would probably cause my brain to shut down due to joy overload.

Thing is, though, Ness already has most of Paula's PSI powers. The only PSI power that Ness has that's actually his own is PK Flash. Assuming no moves overlapped between the two, the only PSI options Paula would have are PSI Freeze, PSI Shield, Offense Up and Defense Down. So maybe she's not the best option.

I never understood why so few of Ness' powers are actually his own. There are ways they could have adapted PSI Special, PSI Paralysis, or PSI Hypnosis to Smash Bros. They did it with Flash and I always thought that Flash would be the least likely of Ness' offensive powers to make it into the game considering all it did was inflict status effects or (occasionally) kill an enemy instantly.
 
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PkunkFury said:
I'll bet the guy who does the announcer voice knows about some characters we don't

let's get him
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...Can't believe I never thought of that.

Now we wait for Sakurai to do a Voice Actor List update and hope the announcer's on there. Then we track down the name.
 
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Jiggy37 said:
We don't know if Ling is a true main character or just one of many, but that one amnesia girl is certainly a story focus. :D Question is whether she's even a playable CO or just there for the sake of the story, though...

Edit: Clarification... What I mean is, we don't even know if Ling comes from the main army, or even what the main army is. She could be the "Sasha" of AWDS2 rather than a "Sami" or "Rachel."
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Not that I mind because Sasha was my favorite CO of Advance Wars DS.
 
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AndoCalrissian said:
We already have two variations of Samus, I don't think we need a third. Krystal and Midna are a) the most likely and b) would make the best choices.
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But saying that Dark Samus is a variation of Samus is like saying that Shadow is a variation of Sonic and Wolf is a variation of Fox (I don't want Shadow or Wolf in, though =P) Dark Samus would probably be *the* best representative of the Metroid Prime series. If you've played the first two games, you'll know what I mean.

It would be cool if Ridley AND Dark Samus made it in as PCs. Not gonna happen, though. And the main reason I don't want Midna as a PC is because I'd rather have someone which represents the LoZ series as opposed to just Twilight Princess, which is just one fish in a very big sea. Tingle does that perfectly, and represents his whole series.

I wonder why Sakurai hasn't approached Retro -- Brawl is his game, but as Retro have been the Metroid guys for the last few years....
 
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Scribble said:
But saying that Dark Samus is a variation of Samus is like saying that Shadow is a variation of Sonic and Wolf is a variation of Fox (I don't want Shadow or Wolf in, though =P) Dark Samus would probably be *the* best representative of the Metroid Prime series. If you've played the first two games, you'll know what I mean.

It would be cool if Ridley AND Dark Samus made it in as PCs. Not gonna happen, though. And the main reason I don't want Midna as a PC is because I'd rather have someone which represents the LoZ series as opposed to just Twilight Princess, which is just one fish in a very big sea. Tingle does that perfectly, and represents his whole series.

I wonder why Sakurai hasn't approached Retro -- Brawl is his game, but as Retro have been the Metroid guys for the last few years....
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There will not be anything from the Prime series in Brawl. It's not going to happen. Sakurai is ignoring the series. To be honest Sakurai is basically ignoring everything thats not either popular in Japan or Made in Japan.
 
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