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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don

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What if it basically transported you to a smaller version of Super Flat Zone (with the Game and Watch itself visible), with oil spilled on the ground and wrenches falling? G&W himself would be immune, of course.
Yeah, that wouldn't be very likely, though...
 

Jiggy

Member
DS's grapple should be clamping people's heads, then pulling out its own stylus and poking them in the eye.


But yeah, Game and Watch is going to have some kind of funky final smash, whatever it ends up being.
 

NeonZ

Member
Insaniac said:
I agree, transforming to ganon would be much too similar to Gigabowser. I'd expect him to use the triforce of power, or some sort of dark magic attack

If it's TP Ganon, he'd actually be closer to a super powered version of Wario's bike than to Giga Bowser (who just has Bowser's moves, unlike TP Ganon and Ganondorf).
 
Zeed said:
Naw, that's going to be DS's Final Smash.
This should be the DS final smash.

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A bit similar to Peach's FS. Except it will be money that fills the screen hurting the other players who touch it.
 
Holy Order Sol said:
There should be a Navi AT.
She would stick with one of the characters and keep going "HAY LITHEN HAY LITHEN", which would drive said character crazy and you would have to mash the buttons in order to keep your character from jumping off the stage.

A Navi Assist Trophy could work frighteningly well. She could either harass a single character by forcing changes in which direction they're looking in, or she could cause the center of the screen to jerk around as she focuses on different parts of the stage, causing the borders to shift ala the Devil Assist Trophy.

Wow, Navi's just going to be hated even more after this game, if she does appear.
 

Scribble

Member
Kulock said:
Wow, Navi's just going to be hated even more after this game, if she does appear.

Aww, I've never understood the Navi hate. But I have the feeling that people love to hate helper characters in video games, and accuse them of being annoying when they really aren't. I've always found the Zelda series's "low health" noise way more annoying :D
 

Akai

Member
Kulock said:
Wow, Navi's just going to be hated even more after this game, if she does appear.
Doesn't Link have a Navi taunt? At least, that's what it looked like in the most recent trailer on the Dojo...
 

Jiggy

Member
CreatureX3 said:
This should be the DS final smash.

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A bit similar to Peach's FS. Except it will be money that fills the screen hurting the other players who touch it.
And it would have no effect on Mario or Pokemon characters, but do triple damage to Sonic and Ice Climbers.
 

Iam Canadian

and have the worst user name EVER
Scribble said:
Aww, I've never understood the Navi hate. But I have the feeling that people love to hate helper characters in video games, and accuse them of being annoying when they really aren't. I've always found the Zelda series's "low health" noise way more annoying :D

I don't hate helper characters in general. I liked Issun, I liked Tatl, I liked Midna, I even liked Tippi.

Navi just had no personality to speak of and kept interrupting with her annoying voice.

But yes, the "low hearts" beep needs to go die. Utterly useless and completely annoying.
 
Iam Canadian said:
I don't hate helper characters in general. I liked Issun, I liked Tatl, I liked Midna, I even liked Tippi.

Navi just had no personality to speak of and kept interrupting with her annoying voice.

But yes, the "low hearts" beep needs to go die. Utterly useless and completely annoying.
I loved Navi at the end of OoT when she wanted to help you fight against Ganon. :D
 

Jiggy

Member
Predicting a double update of the F-Zero stage and an F-Zero item. Item because we've escaped 29 days of updates with no normal item; stage because the past two Monday updates have been a stage.

For specifics, let's say, oh...

As far as the stage goes, Asteroid Field would be too similar to Lylat Cruise. Mute City and Big Blue will probably be in, but other than Yoshi's Island, we've never had a stage update set in a location that was in SSBM. Green Plant it is! Or Port Town, but I'll stick with Green Plant.
And for item, a bomb that attaches to players and explodes if at any point they stop moving.



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CreatureX3 said:
:lol

And an instant kill to Snake?! :D
Nah, Metal Gear Solid sells pretty well, so he can just take normal damage. >_>
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
A Link to the Snitch said:
Bowser - Super Mario Bros. 3 (Doom Ship theme)

This idea is made of the most WIN ever.

Seriously, how amazing would this be?!

Doomship.jpg


Super%20Mario%20Bros%203%20NES%20SS10.png


Cannons could fire at you while you were fighting... and the ship could be flying over various Mario 3 locales in the background. :D
 
MrCheez said:
This idea is made of the most WIN ever.

Seriously, how amazing would this be?!

Doomship.jpg


Super%20Mario%20Bros%203%20NES%20SS10.png


Cannons could fire at you while you were fighting... and the ship could be flying over various Mario 3 locales in the background. :D

More like, Doom Ship crashes, and you jump onto the Doom Boat, then the Doom Tank.
 

ohamsie

Member
I don't see how you guys think Ganon won't be the final smash for Ganondorf, just because it is too similar to Giga Bowser. Let's look at some other final smashes.

Pikachu and Sonic.
Link, Ike, and Meta Knight.
Mario, Samus, and Pokemon Trainer.

These final smashes are all pretty similar. Yes, there are subtle differences, but there would be between Ganon and Giga Bowser too. And Ganon at least has precedent of appearing in games within his own series.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
laesperanzapaz said:
I have a sudden feeling that one of the admin/mods will screw up this largest thread of GAF before a landmark post/page is reached.

Just a gut feeling

1.) We have already reached landmarks

2.) If you are hinting at a Halo thread repeat, don't
 

Teasel

Member
ohamsie said:
I don't see how you guys think Ganon won't be the final smash for Ganondorf, just because it is too similar to Giga Bowser. Let's look at some other final smashes.

Pikachu and Sonic.
Link, Ike, and Meta Knight.
Mario, Samus, and Pokemon Trainer.

These final smashes are all pretty similar. Yes, there are subtle differences, but there would be between Ganon and Giga Bowser too. And Ganon at least has precedent of appearing in games within his own series.
people are also not considering that when you turn into giga bowser you still have the same moves of bowser but you couldn't do the same with ganon... i think that if they made ganon the final smash it would work like fox tank
 
ohamsie said:
I don't see how you guys think Ganon won't be the final smash for Ganondorf, just because it is too similar to Giga Bowser. Let's look at some other final smashes.

Pikachu and Sonic.
Link, Ike, and Meta Knight.
Mario, Samus, and Pokemon Trainer.

These final smashes are all pretty similar. Yes, there are subtle differences, but there would be between Ganon and Giga Bowser too. And Ganon at least has precedent of appearing in games within his own series.
I agree 100%! :D

It would be a bit shocking to me, if Ganon was not Ganondorf's final smash.
 
laesperanzapaz said:
I have a sudden feeling that one of the admin/mods will screw up this largest thread of GAF before a landmark post/page is reached.

Just a gut feeling
I don't see why that would happen unless we go into some crazy off topic discussion. Sometimes we do go off topic in this thread, but thankfully we have the updates to bring us back on topic.

Speacking of which...update week begins again! Woo! :D


TheKingsCrown said:
Ganon isn't even confirmed to be in the game, much to my dismay. I liked him as a character. :(
True. But we all pretty much agree that Ganondorf will be in the game. But if he isn't, that would be a MAJOR shock! :lol
 

Iam Canadian

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CreatureX3 said:
I loved Navi at the end of OoT when she wanted to help you fight against Ganon. :D

I totally forgot about that. :D I will admit, that was a pretty good moment and I actually kind of liked Navi in that scene.

Jiggy37 said:
Predicting a double update of the F-Zero stage and an F-Zero item. Item because we've escaped 29 days of updates with no normal item; stage because the past two Monday updates have been a stage.

For specifics, let's say, oh...

As far as the stage goes, Asteroid Field would be too similar to Lylat Cruise. Mute City and Big Blue will probably be in, but other than Yoshi's Island, we've never had a stage update set in a location that was in SSBM.

I'd like Fire Field for the F-Zero stage, but that's probably too similar to Norfair. Speaking of Norfair...I predict that, because, as you said, Monday has been stage day for the last two weeks and it's part of the E For All stuff that hasn't been shown yet.
 

Jiggy

Member
As far as Ganondorf's final smash goes, I'm pretty easy to please. All I ask is that he not be given another "epic" sword-slashing technique like Link and Ike.
 

Jiggy

Member
Iam Canadian said:
I'd like Fire Field for the F-Zero stage, but that's probably too similar to Norfair. Speaking of Norfair...I predict that, because, as you said, Monday has been stage day for the last two weeks and it's part of the E For All stuff that hasn't been shown yet.
I'd have predicted Norfair too if not for the PictoChat stage and King Dedede appearing for no particular reason when they could have easily done the Advance Wars assist trophy, Star Fox bomb, or something like that. It's odd...
 

Iam Canadian

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Jiggy37 said:
I'd have predicted Norfair too if not for the PictoChat stage and King Dedede appearing for no particular reason when they could have easily done the Advance Wars assist trophy, Star Fox bomb, or something like that. It's odd...

Sakurai has actually been impressively even-handed when it comes to E For All updates versus new stuff. In fact, a ratio of new to E For All things we've gotten since the demo might be interesting. I'd be willing to do it if you don't want to, Jiggy.
 

Jiggy

Member
Updates since E For All:

Little Mac assist
Peach's final smash
PictoChat stage*
Donkey Kong video
Target Smash*
(Replays)*
King Dedede*
King Dedede's moves*

So we're 5:3 in favor of new material. Decent, decent.


Edit: Actually, 5:2 if you don't count Little Mac--since E For All began later that day.
 
Man, there's gonna be a lot more stages this time around. One for each character, plus probably ten bonus/alt. stages! I mean, with the characters we have now, we'll definitely get a level for each of them.

Mario - Delphino Plaza
Princess Peach - Front of Peach's Castle
King Bowser - Super Mario Bros. 3 Doom Ship
Yoshi - Yoshi's Island
Donkey Kong - That DKJB level
Diddy Kong - Pirate ship level
Wario - WarioWare
Pikachu - Pokémon Field
Pokémon Trainer - Pokémon Stadium
Link - Bridge of Eldin
Princess Zelda - Hyrule Courtyard
Kirby - Orange Ocean
Meta Knight - Halberd
King Dedede - Mt. Dedede
Samus - Norfair
Ike - That FE castle
Lucas - New Pork City
Pit - Skyworld
Snake - Shadow Moses Island
Sonic - Green Hill Zone (shh Casino fans, that'll be a secret one!)
Fox McCloud - That SF level
Ice Climbers - Icicle Mountain 2 (no scrolling, but must have an unlockable scrolling level)

And for the ones that will probably return...

Luigi - Luigi's Mansion
Jigglypuff - Pokémon Field/Somethin' else
Ganondorf - Dark World (plz?)
Mewtwo - Cerulean Cave?
Mr. Game & Watch - Flat Zone 2
Marth - Some random FE level :>

Man, I'm gonna love SSBB
 
flipping_heck said:
Prediction: Ice Climber's final smash, it would be interesting to seewhat it is, (expecting huge ice boulders to fall down on the stage or something)

My guess is that they might spin around like their side B and have a blizzard twirl around them like that one Pokemon that made a blizzard from melee. However, knowing the randomness that FS's are, it could be anything.

Also, is it just me or is everyone changing their avatar to include a mario mustace or cap?...... I know I can't do that.. I suck a Photoshop..
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Scribble said:
Item tomorrow. Will cause a lot of controversy.

Instant-KO

What's this item?
Well it gives you an instant KO against your foes!
Even better is that the item will always appear during play, even if items are turned off!
 

Jiggy

Member
King Dedede's theme will be my prediction for the next piece of music we get, but I don't think it'll be tonight. I'd love to be wrong, though.
 
Jiggy37 said:
King Dedede's theme will be my prediction for the next piece of music we get, but I don't think it'll be tonight. I'd love to be wrong, though.


Oh God, please yes!!!!

Only the SuperStar (and up) version though. Because that has the cool part.
 

Jiggy

Member
I was getting that idea from Holy Order Sol. >_>
But yeah, it'd be excellent. The only potential reason it might not make it onto the Dojo is that the Kirby stage we know is the Halberd... But then again, the Zelda stage we know is the Bridge of Eldin and yet we got the OoT Medley.
 
Jiggy37 said:
I was getting that idea from Holy Order Sol. >_>
But yeah, it'd be excellent. The only potential reason it might not make it onto the Dojo is that the Kirby stage we know is the Halberd... But then again, the Zelda stage we know is the Bridge of Eldin and yet we got the OoT Medley.


There were three Kirby stages in Melee.

There will probably be just as many or more in Brawl.
 

Jiggy

Member
SuperAngelo64 said:
There were three Kirby stages in Melee.

There will probably be just as many or more in Brawl.
Yeah, I agree. I'm just saying that when it comes to music updates, we mostly get music from the stages we know...

...but actually, now that I go back and look, it's a pretty thin margin.

Go K.K. Rider --> Smashville
MGS4 Love Theme --> Shadow Moses Island
Pokemon Stadium/Evolution --> Pokemon Stadium 2
Space Armada --> Lylat Cruise
The Underworld --> Skyworld (maybe)

Ashley's Theme =/= Wario Ware (probably)
Ocarina of Time Medley =/= Bridge of Eldin (probably)
Yoshi's Story Ending =/= Yoshi's Island (hopefully)


So I could see how we'd get Dedede's theme even though it's not the default for the Halberd stage.
 

Jiggy

Member
SuperAngelo64 said:
This is going to sound strange..

But the way the song sounds, it belongs in a stage with a sunset or a stage at night lit by torches.
Hmm. I guess it depends how fast the day transitions in Yoshi's Island... It'd be pretty cool if the Yoshi singing begun and ended with every night.



Akai said:
Huh? I reallllllly doubt there will be more than one Wario Ware-related stage...
I don't.
But even if there's really only one, I'm sure Ashley's Theme won't be the default for Wario Ware, which is all I was talking about. >_>
 
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