It means that he thinks you and many others are just Wii U bashers looking for something to complain about, and you've run out of "ammo" aka, "posts" because other users feel the opposite.
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So, um, demos on the WiiU. Or, this shop is kinda f*cked...
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It means that he thinks you and many others are just Wii U bashers looking for something to complain about, and you've run out of "ammo" aka, "posts" because other users feel the opposite.
frankie_baby
Member
Seriously when the only options are details and purchase its not that big a leap of logic to click details
that's absurd. I don't have a problem with my WiiU at all. Just finished 5staring NSMBU with my fiancé, awesome game.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I never had an issue finding it...what worries me is sitting around forever while my demo downloads...I have seen half dead turtles move quicker!
I'm afraid you've just been labeled a Nintendo troll.
Sorry man. Gotta stop enjoying that Wii U now.
On the 3DS eShop, the link to download the demo is on the same level as the link to "details", whereas on the Wii U eShop, to get to where you can download the demo, you have to click through the "details" link. I got confused too at first because of that difference. But all of that is on the server end so they can roll out changes to the UI without updating the eShop app.
frankie_baby
Member
"You mean you actually have to lift items off the shelf and put them into your trolley?"
suavelicious
Member
WiiU's eShop is far from being perfect but you gotta admit it's way better than the 3DS's.
Here in Germany it's right there on the front page:
And if I scroll down it actually appears again with a bunch of other categories:
So, you guys are saying you don't have all those categories in US? :/
I've visited the Wii U e-shop (US) a lot and it's so far much better than the 3DS. They're consistently changing what's featured to keep it fresh, maybe even daily when there's no actual content update. It's much more efficient at showing lots of content than the 3DS is too. As for not having a demo window to visit... Well shit, maybe when there's more than ONE demo they'll do just that.
The poster complaining about FIFA's being buried probably downloaded it before Nintendo announced it was available. I know I got mine a day early last Wednesday night because of that reason. Then Thursday morning when it came out, bam, big ass FIFA banner in the eshop stating "demo available." There's even an icon (like there is for videos) when scrolling through games to show if a demo is available. Really not that hard.
My only e-shop complaint so far (other than speed of download) is that the charts at the very top of the page still don't work due to "not enough data." At this point I think it's an oversight since they even have a "top 20" window you can click on.
The poster complaining about FIFA's being buried probably downloaded it before Nintendo announced it was available. I know I got mine a day early last Wednesday night because of that reason. Then Thursday morning when it came out, bam, big ass FIFA banner in the eshop stating "demo available." There's even an icon (like there is for videos) when scrolling through games to show if a demo is available. Really not that hard.
My only e-shop complaint so far (other than speed of download) is that the charts at the very top of the page still don't work due to "not enough data." At this point I think it's an oversight since they even have a "top 20" window you can click on.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Spoken like someone who doesn't own the console. The E-Shop so far, has been a much, much simpler process to find games on than 360. Plus, all day 1 digital downloads are available right at midnight Tuesday (USA). It'll take a bigger amount of games before we see how well their organizing really is though.
Jaded Alyx
Member
The Wii U eShop is far better than the 3DS one...
Same as the 3DS eShop, categorization and other storefront stuff is managed differently by region, by separate teams.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Funnily enough, I find them equally easy to navigate, to the point I could not care less if any of them were made any easier.
BTW, I'm seriously considering starting an elite gaf club for people who never had troubles navigating the nintendo DD stores. Did you find your way easily on the WiiWare, DSiWare, 3ds and U eShops? Well, congrats, mate, you're now part of a elite gaf club!
Oh wow, that sucks
I really love all those categories and imo it's much easier to find stuff on it than on XBLA etc.
No argument there. I'm generally a fan of clear, easily understandable language. I think in an ideal world you'd have three buttons, arranged left to right - Try it! Buy it! Tell me more!
Of course, in an ideal world every game has a demo.
I don't have a PS3, but I do have a PSP so I have some idea what the PSN store is like.
To see what sales there are, I have to click on New Releases, then PSP Games, then Discounts. I don't know why it is burried three levels deep if there is a tab on the left.
No store is perfect.
To see what sales there are, I have to click on New Releases, then PSP Games, then Discounts. I don't know why it is burried three levels deep if there is a tab on the left.
No store is perfect.
I had no problems finding everything I needed on the US store (eShop).
Can't say the same anymore about XBLA (the new layout is dreadfull and has made me stop buying XBLA games) or PSN (the new store.. the horror...)
Granted, the eShop is still prety new, so finding stuff is still easy, but navigation wasn't a problem *at all*
Can't say the same anymore about XBLA (the new layout is dreadfull and has made me stop buying XBLA games) or PSN (the new store.. the horror...)
Granted, the eShop is still prety new, so finding stuff is still easy, but navigation wasn't a problem *at all*
superchunk
Member
While there is always room for improvement, I find the eShop far easier to use than PS3's store.
However, Nintendo needs to add better filtering and a alphanumeric / sorting choices. Right now if you play around with it, there are errors and things not working as it really should.
However, the demo was very easy to find. Open FIFA.... more details... download demo. Pretty straight forward, but I do think that any page that has a purchase button, should have a demo button as well. And the initial screen for the game has a purchase button.
One part I give to PS3 though, is the steps to start the download are less. For a demo it should be a one or two click operation. Click download, click confirm. Then short popup that says its downloading in background and where to see progress. If I remember correctly it had a few extra steps that seemed pointless when I downloaded the FIFA demo.
However, Nintendo needs to add better filtering and a alphanumeric / sorting choices. Right now if you play around with it, there are errors and things not working as it really should.
However, the demo was very easy to find. Open FIFA.... more details... download demo. Pretty straight forward, but I do think that any page that has a purchase button, should have a demo button as well. And the initial screen for the game has a purchase button.
One part I give to PS3 though, is the steps to start the download are less. For a demo it should be a one or two click operation. Click download, click confirm. Then short popup that says its downloading in background and where to see progress. If I remember correctly it had a few extra steps that seemed pointless when I downloaded the FIFA demo.
Yeah, the old shops were seriously a pain to navigate. The 3DS eShop is miles better than the Wii/DSi ones, but even that one is far from perfect.
As far as some of the important things:
- Search features. The filters they have work nicely, but it would be good to be able to sort the results. Auto-complete would be nice as well.
- Being able to display paginated results in one stream. Having to click back and forth is not that great. The Wii Shop wasn't too bad and you could use buttons, but the DSi Shop was awful since it showed only 4 results at a time.
- Background downloading.
- Not being taken back to the very start after you download something.
When it comes to those points, from my brief usage of the Wii U eShop, I think it has made some significant improvements, but I haven't spent much time with it since there's not much to see yet.
frankie_baby
Member
There is background downloading
Both Wii U and 3DS have background downloading. Well on 3DS, it's not really background but you can just set up a queue and they download when it's in sleep mode.
Yeah, I know. I meant to say that those were points for comparison with the older stores and digital storefronts from others.
frankie_baby
Member
Nintendo let publishers set play limits on demos, they did it with 3ds too
Are you serious, bro?
You click on the FIFA banner on the front page, click the GamePad button to download the demo, and that's it. It's about two clicks to get from eShop front page to preparing to download.
As far as 3DS stuff showing up, Iwata-San said earlier this year that Nintendo Network will be bringing unified accounts across both 3DS and Wii U. Looks like this is the first step.
Alex
Member
Wii U eShop isnt the best, but I didnt have too many problems with it glancing around the first night. Things seemed reasonable to find, at least with it's low current amount of content.
The 3DS one is just fucked though, no one who worked on that and thought "yeah, this is good" should be actively employed.
The 3DS one is just fucked though, no one who worked on that and thought "yeah, this is good" should be actively employed.
I just went through every category on the 3DS eShop. VVVVVV is not showing in any of the available categories on the front page. Not "3D Games", not "Top Sellers", NONE of them.
The ONLY way to find VVVVVV is to literally know that it's there (buried) and manually search for it.
Its as if Nintendo doesnt want people to know that VVVVVV (and many other games) even exists. These devs can't be happy about this. Beyond ridiculous.
Edit: US store
Actually, I've never reached those limits. It might get a bit problematic if Rayman Legends only has 10 limits, because I'm going to show that one to a lot of friends in the next weeks.
frankie_baby
Member
That reminds me, weren't we supposed to have the rayman demo by now
thursday! (or so they claim)
pharmboy044
Member
lol, it's the other way around buddy.
frankie_baby
Member
Oh cool, wonder if it'll be the same demo from the in store demo units
Heart Attack
Member
stuff like this reminds me of giantbombs "chose one" prophecy.
fabricated backlash
Member
The WiiU shop storefront and navigation is the best console storefront so far. Given, the lack of content is currently working in it's favor to present things in a clean and organized way, but the touchscreen input alone makes it indefinetly more comfortable to navigate than the god awfull XBL marketplace.
The true test is still ahead of it though. Once a decent amount of content is available, it's going to be interesting to see how navigation and presentation of new-old stuff is handled.
The true test is still ahead of it though. Once a decent amount of content is available, it's going to be interesting to see how navigation and presentation of new-old stuff is handled.
Annoying Old Party Man
Member
Basically, this.
We need a lot of demos, only one is pathetic. Waiting on the Rayman demo as well.
But the storefront is - except from loading times - a good copycat of the latest iPhone appstore, easily manageable and with a lot of info.
It's definitely NOT a clusterfuck of design and neither do you get lost in a labyrinth searching how to find a demo download.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Erm, VVVVVV is in the eShop Essentials on the front page of the Polish store right now. Just saying.
TheDrowningMan
Member
Have you even read the comments after the OP?
Do you even have a Wii U?
I'm afraid of the answer to both of those questions.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It's a pity. Have you tried searching by popularity? VVVVVV is currently the 7th most popular 3dsware title on the Polish store. Actually, it's pretty darn easy to come across it on the Polish store (and I suspect a bunch of other EU stores, as the Polish one is not an exception), even if you did not suspect it existed.
I think oddball categories are changed and titles moved around every week or so. VVVVVV not being in the best seller or top rated sections in the US store make it difficult for it to gain visibility, which is a shame, but so is the case for a lot of other eShop games that are in the same situation.
At the moment, the shop recommends other titles after people have downloaded something, but I wonder if that is also put anywhere else?