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Sony announces PS4 Pro, $399, November 10th
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mcdomination
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Not almost guaranteed...Absolutely guaranteed!
All games that are released after Sept. 30th MUST have a PS4 Pro mode. This has been mandated by Sony.
Edit: Unless you meant a PS4 Pro GoW console?
RedAssedApe
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mcdomination
Member
No doubt, there are shady people out there. But from the 100+ items I've sold on eBay in the past decade, I've never been ripped off.
I mean....don't ship until you have the money. It's not exactly rocket science.
But hey, if people want to see what shady looks like in person, go ahead and trade your consoles to GameStop and see what getting ripped off is really like.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
A Slim bundle's much more likely, especially since GoW will likely be ~1080p60 already on a standard PS4.
Can't see Sony making any PS4Pro bundles tbh. Audience is so niche that there's really no need.
Big Green Anus
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How likely do you think Microsoft will change their Jaguar CPU for a new architecture for the Scorpio? I know Microsoft said it's a 8-core CPU but they did not elaborate more from that.
That does not alleviate the risk. Perhaps you haven't had the misfortune of doing everything right, yet getting false claims supported by ebay, but plenty of others have. Even if you have a 100% perfect feedback record, and do everything properly, the way they handle buyer complaints makes it very easy for buyers to scam private sellers or make false claims that ebay will back. I used ebay for just as long with a perfect record, and now I would not sell on ebay unless I was OK with potentially taking a loss on the item. For a PS4, where you could still get value for it elsewhere, it is not worth the risk.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Zen will not be ready in time. AMD have gone on record stating they do not have any new semi custom CPU contracts for 2017
Unless Scorpio gets delayed to 2018, it will have a Jaguar CPU and Zen is off the table.
OTOH, the GPU situation is much more interesting, since Vega should be available in time. 12GB of GDDR5x and a mid range Vega would easily give us our 6TF compute power and 320GB/sec bandwidth numbers we are looking for.
Yep. But without Zen, i think Scorpio may fall to the same pitfalls some people complain about Pro for, in regards to 60fps.
Hopefully they use Puma atleast for higher clocking potential, or Excavator maybe
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Agreed
Saberus
Member
Wonder why Sony hasn't released hardly any full video captures of the games from the Pro, like we have a couple but I would like to see Uncharted 4 and few others.
And whats with the media coverage, DF had some great stuff, but who else was at the show?
I have the pro on preorder but it would be nice to see more games.
And whats with the media coverage, DF had some great stuff, but who else was at the show?
I have the pro on preorder but it would be nice to see more games.
Omnistalgic
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tks for clarifying...
Omnistalgic
Member
How hard is it for Sony to make custom parts then? Ian's that what Apple does with there phones/tablets? Make a lot of the innards themselves? I know they basically boast a new chip every keynote.
That just seems really silly to rely on other companies for one of your most important products. I could see something like controllers or input devices, but the brains and grunt of your system should be decided wholly by you no?
TheGreyHulk
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When it comes to CPUs, it's not easy to make your own design your own chip. Apple licenses ARM instruction set and built a solid cpu for themselves with the A10, but that aint cheap at all. There's way more money in the phone/tablet business for Apple than there is in the console business for sony or microsoft.
Also, you cant make x86 CPUs without getting a license to do so. Intel & AMD aren't giving those to anybody. They have strict rules between them both. There's no point for sony or ms to do it themselves. It's cheaper to pay AMD to make the chips for them.
AMD's CPU designs have been shit for a while, but their GPUs are great. Intel has great CPUs but their GPUs are shit in comparison to AMD. AMD was a much better decision since the GPU is what pushes the graphics.
Burkatron81
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Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:-
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
MatrixMan.EXE
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Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:-
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
That's one hell of a bargain. Shit. I'm not sure what to do. I kind of want to keep my OG launch PS4, for sentimental value. But that deal is a massive saving of £180.
RedAssedApe
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Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:-
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
fifa are the only games excluded? lol
Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:-
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
A bargain in what world? A PS4 and 5 qualifying games and still paying close to $200 no thanks makes Gamestop look decent
theonerayman
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So today I decided that I had to buy the pro. Horizon Zero Dawn and the new Spiderman sold me on it. I went into gamestop and was concerned that they would be out of preorders and I would have to go through the website. I was the first to preorder the pro (they had 4 slim preorders). It blew my mind especially since this gamestop is a top 50 in the company based on sales. But I was able to get it and Nov 10th can't come fast enough
Side note. I really really hope that SE does a Pro patch for JC3, I would like to finish that game and it's DLC but the frame rate is junk.
Side note. I really really hope that SE does a Pro patch for JC3, I would like to finish that game and it's DLC but the frame rate is junk.
Wait, so I can transfer PT?
I wouldn't expect more than a game bundled with it at the same price.
The Slim will get better deals.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I'll buy this when it's $299 Canadian. 
RedAssedApe
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wonder what game will be the "poster child" for the pro at launch. seems like most of the AAA titles will have some level of support
Tomb Raider I guess but the real big one is Horizon after launch.
mcdomination
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Yes!
Unknown?
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Probably old games too like Uncharted 4.
StrongBlackVine
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Battlefield 1 easily and then Final Fantasy XV.
Chris Metal
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Posted this in the wrong thread earlier:-
Game in the UK will sell you a PS4 Pro at launch for £174.99 when you trade in your old PS4 with any 5 games. A bargain for those upgrading.
Link: http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...ubTradeInConsoles-_-espot-_-#PS4ProTradeOffer
Hmm does that include controllers or just the console for B grading?
Big Green Anus
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That sucks about Zen
Is it possible that the Xbox can use Puma, which is a slightly more improved version of Jaguar?Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
That sucks about Zen
I would think so....crossing my fingers. We should learn a lot more during Microsoft Spring Showcase next year.
Yikes I didn't realize Zen was behind. Not another console with that weak sauce Jaguar CPU...can't take it.
This is wrong and the article which stated this was click-bait. It's actually quite the opposite.
AMD have stated on their 12 month roadmap that they're actually ramping up for new semi-custom business, which has to be the Scorpio since AMD's semi-custom portfolio only consists of Sony and MS. This action point is amongst points for Zen and Vega.
If they were providing similar chips to the PS4 Pro, which is already in mass-production, you wouldn't need an action on a 12 month roadmap to ramp up for new business. It has to be the new chip for the Scorpio. Apple are only bundling AMD GPU's with their new iMacs. 12 month from now aligns perfectly with the mass-production of the Scorpio.
It's crucial for AMD that they secure semi-custom business on their new architectures, they will of pitched them hard to MS.
potatohead
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Pre-ordered PS4 Pro.
Bought 4K HDR TV.
Bought Resident Evil 4 for PS4.
My body is ready for Leon in moderate polygon budget glory and beautiful colours as soon as the Pro reaches my doorstep. Can't fucking wait.
Bought 4K HDR TV.
Bought Resident Evil 4 for PS4.
My body is ready for Leon in moderate polygon budget glory and beautiful colours as soon as the Pro reaches my doorstep. Can't fucking wait.
which tv? Leaning towards the Samsung ks8000
CDPR already said no to a Pro patch
Damn, guess I'll be playing the ps5 definitive edition.
potatohead
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I bought the Sony one from that GAF thread, but I was considering the KS8000 as well. Definitely a better TV for the HDR/4K based on the specs (higher max brightness from what I saw on those comparison charts and probably better HDR presentation because of it), but I opted for the Sony one, couldn't pass up the price.
Buying a car and starting at a new place, and managing all the new costs associated with that so just felt it'd be better not to spend too much more than I'm already doing.
if you knew what i was upgrading from... anything i would buy made in the last 3 years would be a major upgrade ^^
We just got a 65" KS800D which is the Costco model of the KS8000 (they use different model numbers to avoid price matching and differentiate warrantee, but it's also cosmetically slightly different with a darker metallic bezel which I prefer.) So far I'm very impressed despite worries about the edge-lit nature of the set. Uniformity is surprisingly good with just a little inconsistency around the center of the set, and a slight light tinge at the bottom of the display in brighter scenes. Saturated colors are striking and black levels in darker scenes are good as anything but a FALD or OLED set.
I won't have a chance to calibrate it properly for a while yet and don't have a game console at this residence, but feedback from owners who have put it through its paces has been consistently positive.
Norse
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What the 65" run at Costco. They still giving few hundred off on it?
FFXV
rokkerkory
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Great set!!!
captainraincoat
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Has anyone tried the new data transfer feature with the latest firmware....im grabbing a 2tb drive day one and going to transfer stuff over
That sucks about Zen
Wouldn't make any difference.