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Sony: PSP2 (NGP) will be affordable
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Hazelhurst
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Sony's definition of affordable does not equate to the average person. Sony's pricing announcement track record reflects this.
However, I think they're going to start at $299.99. I don't see the NGP being more expensive than a PS3.
However, I think they're going to start at $299.99. I don't see the NGP being more expensive than a PS3.
SlipperySlope
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Billychu said:
Eh, no.
George Claw M.D.
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Well. I don't think it was their intention to talk about the price, but it's kind of hard to keep sidestepping the topic, when tons of people are asking about your newly-announced device, and the question inevitably comes up, again and again. I think Jack handled it just fine. He acknowledged that affordability was definitely taken into consideration, which is a vast departure from Sony's attitude with the PS3. Unfortunately, his wording also made it seem like it's going to be beyond mainstream pricing.Vinci said:
I love Sony's penchant for delivering cutting-edge technology. The problem with that, is that it's hard to sell it at a price that consumers are accustomed to, within that product category, even if the tech justifies the cost.
The Abominable Snowman
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So why is it so imperative that it is not tied to a SD card? kind of like WP7's implementation?angelfly said:
Unknown One
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Wouldn't onboard memory be used for system update and such?
H_Prestige
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Vinci said:
Gamecube...and what exactly?
TheExecutive
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Hazelhurst said:
My guess is 349 for 3G and 299 for wi-fi only.
Mariah Carey
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g35twinturbo said:Mariah,
while you say this. I personally think that the 3ds is still waaaay to overpriced
Oh, I won't argue. I'm just pointing out that at first the 3DS looked like an uncharacteristic move for Nintendo of late, but now that we've seen the NGP the 3DS looks a lot more in-line with their MO of the past 7 years.
It's a common misnomer that Nintendo shoots for "cheap." Remember that Wii is still their most expensive home system to date, and even the DS had an unprecedented pricetag for a handheld. What Nintendo specializes in is charging folks for what seems like expensive cutting-edge technology (dual/touch-screens, motion controls, glasses-free 3D) that will in-turn seem reasonable when compared to competitors that actually are expensive cutting-edge technology.
More on topic, I think a fair prediction is that Sony will offer a $399 3G SKU that will help subsidize a $299 WiFi SKU. They have to have some kind of sub-$300 option if they want this thing to sell as well as the original PSP.
SonOfABeep
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Honestly I would be happy with an ipod touch 4G 32GB that has buttons.
That's all I want. $250. Done. End of story.
That's all I want. $250. Done. End of story.
H_Prestige
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linkboy said:
Yeah, maybe the N64. Definitely did better 3D than the ps1, but it was using those old school carts when the market had clearly moved on to CD. Certainly the DS and Wii were no where near the graphics beasts of their competitors and those were much more recent.
PeakPointMatrix
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Don't worry, people will find a way.EvilMario said:I meant to post this in the affordable thread the first time..
Gamestop reveals reasonable pricing. (down on site now, but Google captured this)
They're trying to give people heart attacks.
Didn't one site suggest the NGP would have 16GB storage built in with SD slot for additional storage? A site that got all the rumored specs correct but I forget the name. If the device launches in the 2011 I say the base model w/ wifi and 16GB storage will be $299. If it launches in 2012 I can see $249.
From all the comments I've read from Sony execs they realize price is an issue with the PS3, and I don't see them making the same mistake again.
From all the comments I've read from Sony execs they realize price is an issue with the PS3, and I don't see them making the same mistake again.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I have to commend Sony's pricing reveal strategy here vis a vis the competition. The NGP will be expensive. Sony knows it, we know it. However, by delaying the reveal of the final price for as long as possible, they avoid having potential buyers balk immediately at the price and going to the competition. Rather, they can draw them in and make people want it more (i.e. increase the product's perceived value), so that by the time they reveal the price, people have already made up their minds to buy it.
Also, it means that no value-to-dollars comparison between 3DS and NGP can be made in the minds of the average consumer for the first few months of the 3DS's life. They can build up hype without reality getting in the way. Essentially, they can attempt to do to the 3DS what they did to the Dreamcast.
I think building yet another Spruce Goose is a mistake, but given that as a fait accompli, they're handling the rest of their strategy masterfully.
Also, it means that no value-to-dollars comparison between 3DS and NGP can be made in the minds of the average consumer for the first few months of the 3DS's life. They can build up hype without reality getting in the way. Essentially, they can attempt to do to the 3DS what they did to the Dreamcast.
I think building yet another Spruce Goose is a mistake, but given that as a fait accompli, they're handling the rest of their strategy masterfully.
Mariah Carey
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^^^ That's not actually anything new. I mean, we knew about PS3 and that it would be expensive a year before they hit us with the price. It's just in that case the price was still higher than anybody would have ever imagined.
I suspect it'll be $349 - $399. Maybe an SKU with no 3G at $349 and the standard with 3G at $399. I'd like it to be $299, but I just don't see it happening. Not when you look at the prices for iPhones, Android Phones and the iPad, and most of those are price subsidized by phone contracts.
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I don't really know if that applies to the NGP at this point. When considering that people know Sony is going to announce the price at E3 (and if they don't... well... that's a whole other story entirely), all they're going to do is "eh, I'll wait until I hear the price" and put it out-of-sight, out-of-mind for the next few months. It would be different if the conference showed a plethora of games and support to plant the seeds in the minds of the audience, but with really standard stuff like Uncharted, Killzone, etc, most of the gamers aren't going to make up their mind until later. And the tech-people already had their mind made up when they heard the specs, so any bit of price isn't going to deter them.
With that said, they're in a Catch-22 as announcing a bad price this early will make them doomed out of the gate, but the price that Sony does know about is not something they can sugar-coat that easily, unfortunately.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Didn't the DS launch at a higher price than the GameCube? It's not really that unheard of for a handheld to be more expensive than the console that the publisher also makes.
Mr_Appleby
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claviertekky said:
but more complex games can still provide fun in easily manageable units. Monster Hunter has no quests longer than an hour, so I know if I have 1 hour to play of an evening I know I can fit in a hunt. Nothing wrong with switching on Etrian Odyssey for a half hour crawl before bed. Short play sessions does not have to equal less complex games. I really enjoyed half-minute hero's balance of persistent upgrading (equipment etc) combined with short bursts of activity, and the ability to go back and unlock new paths/areas/equipment.
shadowsdarknes
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Please be $250!
shadowsdarknes
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Wasn't the DS only 150 dollars? Maybe 179.99 (but that might be the DS Lite.)ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Gamecube was 200.
Saint Gregory
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I doubt that Sony has actually settled on a final price at this point but I feel like if it were anything approaching reasonabilty they would have dropped more of a hint than "it will be affordable" in order to disrupt the 3DS launch. I'm thinking $399 for the baseline model and price determined by carrier for the 3G model.
And they'll probably be taking a major loss on each unit even at that price.
And they'll probably be taking a major loss on each unit even at that price.
I love them for it though
I NEED SCISSORS
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KAL2006 said:
I'm not sure the 3DS can officially 'drop' in the UK - the price is up to retailers.
ShopTo, for instance, are already selling it for £200.
backbreaker65
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Lets see, sony says PS3 will be expensive so get a 2 job, and it was.
Now they say the NGP will be affordable, so with the PS3 as the caveat, I will believe them.
Now they say the NGP will be affordable, so with the PS3 as the caveat, I will believe them.
H_Prestige
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KaYotiX said:
PSP Go wasn't a new system and it had a lot of retailer margin built in.
EmCeeGramr
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GameCube was $99 at the time of the DS's launch.shadowsdarknes said:
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