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[EvilMario]

$499.99 with a pack in, and Sony eating a huge loss for every system sold.

I definitely think the design of this system is great, but it can't be cheap..

 

[black_vegeta]

Still sounds like at least $300.

This sounds like the price which would be reasonable for all that it offers.

 

[Vinci]

Don't know about "easily" - budgets, userbase, et cetera, and I'm not optimistic.

I'm expecting ports. LOTS of them. Even more than the PSP had due to the massive expense of HD games nowadays.

 

[Reallink]

Boy I hope they commission a browser from Google/Opera/Mozilla on this thing. I would pay $1000 for this shit if it does. I'd keep it permanently tethered to a 4G phone and use it as a this awesome mini tablet everywhere I went. If they got that shitty PSP/PS3 browser, forget about it, I won't give them $50.

 

[red shoe paul]

Still sounds like at least $300.

2 SKU's $300 and $350. It will NEVER go $100 higher than the 3DS if they want to still want to rival it. Also holy shit that firmware looks really hideous.

 

[kinoki]

My bet is that they're going to keep the price point the same as the 3DS and eventually go under it with price cuts down the line. It might not seem realistic, but if they can afford a little bleeding (money, that is) I don't see why they wouldn't do it. If the whole NGP thing takes off they'd be bathing in money regardless.

 

[clav]

Just occurred to me (I'm a bit slow) that with this 5" multitouch screen, likely sub 500 USD price and 3G, this thing is a much bigger threat to the upcoming wave of 7" Android tablets than anything else out there.

It's too small to browse the web as well as the ipad. it's too big to be always pocketable like an iphone. but compared against those 7" tablets, this thing seems like a better product to me. as long as they use a decent webkit browser and not some slow as shit browser, of course.

I wonder how that will shake out.

Remember the audience here: hardcore gamers.

Casual gamers seem to be going towards Apple products. Most Android users would just want iPhone titles.

Nintendo holds the marketshare for their iconic titles (i.e. Mario Kart, 64 classics). It's going to be really hard for Sony to make this sell unless Sony does something crazy like install your PS3 games and Blu-Rays on your PSP.

$499.99 with a pack in, and Sony eating a huge loss for every system sold.

I definitely think the design of this system is great, but it can't be cheap..

Sony will not sell this at a loss. They learned that the hard way with the PS3.

 

[Lonely1]

"Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value.”

Don't know what to think about this.

 

[Vinci]

My bet is that they're going to keep the price point the same as the 3DS and eventually go under it with price cuts down the line. It might not seem realistic, but if they can afford a little bleeding (money, that is) I don't see why they wouldn't do it. If the whole NGP thing takes off they'd be bathing in money regardless.

If they do lose money on each unit, it will be very, very little. The razor/blades model needs to die in a fire.

 

[Einbroch]

"Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value.”

Don't know what to think about this.

Better than the "it will be expensive" comments with the PS3.

 

[Animator]

"Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value.”

Don't know what to think about this.

*starts looking for a second job.

 

[1-D_FTW]

"Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value.”

Don't know what to think about this.

Is that the quote from Nintendo to justify their price? Or is that from Sony? If so, prepare for 399.99.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Minimum = 249/349 for wifi/3g
Maximum = 299/399 for wifi/3g
Wild Card = 349/399 for wifi/3g

BOOK IT. I'm aware that the titles maximum and wild card have contradicting prices but dealwithit.

 

[Merovin]

499 3G?
399 Non-3G?

 

[tea_and_crumpets]

"Yoshida on PSP2 pricing: “It’s not going to be $599″"

$598

 

[Einbroch]

Minimum = 249/349 for wifi/3g
Maximum = 299/399 for wifi/3g
Wild Card = 349/399 for wifi/3g

BOOK IT.

You're Wild Card guess is the correct answer.

 

[Vinci]

You're Wild Card guess is the correct answer.

I think his Maximum is what it will be.

 

[seady]

I am guessing:

$349 for Wifi
$399 for Wifi/3G

$100 differences from the 3DS is a reasonable gap.

 

[vantastic]

because the person that bought an ipad is in the same audience that wants to buy a playstation

perfect logic

"how is psp2 gonna compete with iphone/ipad games"
perfect logic

 

[Lonely1]

If this thing has direct ports from PS3, the games are going to be $60.

Oh, so buying console exclusives for this if they are cheaper in price.

 

[Veitsev]

"how is psp2 gonna compete with iphone/ipad games"
perfect logic

I think his post flew over your head a bit.

 

[vantastic]

It's going to be really hard for Sony to make this sell unless Sony does something crazy like install your PS3 games and Blu-Rays on your PSP.

but all the naysayers keep complaining about how sony "doesn't get it" by creating portable versions of their console IPs. LOL.

 

[J-Rock]

"Hopefully when we announce the price, people will see the proper value.”

Don't know what to think about this.

Hopefully...Ugh. This thing looks great but I have little faith in Sony when it comes to pricing.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

i paid $500 for my Galaxy S because of being month-to-month, so if PSP2 is $500 or less i don't really have any way of logically complaining due to my willingness to drop said amount on a phone.

i don't WANT to pay that much, but at least i can justify it this way to my girlfriend if its $350?

 

[vantastic]

I think his post flew over your head a bit.

what ever. i've seen tons of posts from people saying this all the time. sony can't compete with nintendo. sony can't compete with apple. they need crap 99 cent games like on the app store. blah blah blah.

 

[Veitsev]

what ever. i've seen tons of posts from people saying this all the time. sony can't compete with nintendo. sony can't compete with apple. they need crap 99 cent games like on the app store. blah blah blah.

People aren't buying Ipads for games. Its a different market.

 

[gregor7777]

What is the highest price a gaming handheld has launched at that the individuals of GAF would consider a success?

EDIT: meaning, sales.

 

[Instro]

$349 with no 3G, and $399 with 3G sounds reasonable. I sounds like they dont want to sell at a loss again, and I wouldnt blame them because its a horrible strategy, so I would imagine they are attempting to sell slightly above cost.

 

[darkwing]

"Yoshida on PSP2 pricing: “It’s not going to be $599″"

$598

he actually said that? lol

 

[Krauser Kat]

no way this is thing is coming out that gate at less that 350 which is reasonable. My mortgage payment makes all other things seem cheap.

 

[clav]

but all the naysayers keep complaining about how sony "doesn't get it" by creating portable versions of their console IPs. LOL.

Many of us who own electronic portables simply don't have as much time during the days to play unless you're a kid/tween/jobless adult. It's why games like Angry Birds are highly successful because they can provide fun in short amounts of time.

Now you have another factor for console owners whether it's worth it to own a portable device. Add that, plus Sony wants to be profitable, I don't think Sony will sell this below $500 unless there's a contract added on top.

So if it's the cell phone version, it will be $300 with a two year contract. As for the wifi only, it's going to be at least $500.

 

[Vinci]

What is the highest price a gaming handheld has launched at that the individuals of GAF would consider a success?

The original PSP. From a hardware standpoint, it was a total success. Software was its achilles heel. So $249.

 

[Majine]

299 for Wi-Fi
399 for 3G

 

[gregor7777]

The original PSP. From a hardware standpoint, it was a total success. Software was its achilles heel. So $249.

Sorry, I didn't mean that from a hardware standpoint. I meant a market success.

EDIT: perhaps I misread you

 

[Vinci]

Sorry, I didn't mean that from a hardware standpoint. I meant a market success.

I would consider the PSP itself to be a market success.

 

[MechaX]

but all the naysayers keep complaining about how sony "doesn't get it" by creating portable versions of their console IPs. LOL.

Well, MGS4 does seem to be the absolute antithesis of the concept of portable gaming, if that route pans out...

 

[Lonely1]

Is that the quote from Nintendo to justify their price? Or is that from Sony? If so, prepare for 399.99.

Sony.

 

[gregor7777]

I would consider the PSP itself to be a market success.

Do you think that's the upper limit?

 

[graywolf323]

$300 for 3G + Wifi

$250 for Wifi only

 

[yurinka]

but all the naysayers keep complaining about how sony "doesn't get it" by creating portable versions of their console IPs. LOL.

sssssssh...Now that Nintendo also gets non-dumbed down current gen or previous gen ports/versions in their portable is a good idea.

Well, MGS4 does seem to be the absolute antithesis of the concept of portable gaming, if that route pans out...

Only when is in a Sony portable? Why people doesn't say the same with the MGS3 port in 3DS?

 

[Zapages]

So guys how much of a price drop are we expecting for the PSP 2000/3000/Go systems?

 

[darkwing]

$300 for 3G + Wifi

$250 for Wifi only

no

 

[Vinci]

Do you think that's the upper limit?

Not now, no. For anything resembling mainstream adoption, I'd say $299. Which is where I think the no-3G NGP is going to be.

EDIT: To clarify, it will not sell ridiculously well at that price. They will need to bring it down within a year of its launch to something like $249. But I think a launch price of $299 for the no-3G model is doable.

 

[clav]

Also, I'm surprised none of you have mentioned it. With the depreciating value of the US dollar as yen is far more valuable than it was a decade ago and the specs of this machine, do you honestly think Sony will sell this at $300 range unsubsidized?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Well, MGS4 does seem to be the absolute antithesis of the concept of portable gaming, if that route pans out...

pretty sure he isn't working on MGS4. He said he is working on an NGP game that will realize the dream of being able to play a game on your PS3 and then being able to put it on your NGP and continue the experience on the go.

And he said he'd reveal at E3. I think the MGS4 demo was all about tech. We'll see.

 

[ag-my001]

Going off of some wild theories, a bar napkin, and a Google search for "inflation converter", I'm going to say $299 for the basic, $380 for the 3G (with a possible pack in card of some kind). But I'm willing to move $30 in the upward direction on both, and it's possible Sony underships the basic version for a few months to help out their short-term margins until costs decrease.

 

[Veitsev]

sssssssh...Now that Nintendo also gets non-dumbed down current gen or previous gen ports/versions in their portable is a good idea.

Its not that simple. The DS had ports. It launched with a port (Mario 64 DS). The problem comes when publishers (who have proven to be lazy) flood the market with ports. Since the NGP is on about the same level as current generation consoles it is more likely to receive these ports than 3DS. Publishers are still complaining about the current gen's development costs. Cheap ports would seem like a good way to make some easy money. I don't think you can look at what we know about the current NGP launch lineup and just dismiss it as a port machine. However I think its a fair concern to have. Especially since this gen is probably going to last a little longer than average.

Personally I think that if the price is right the idea of a handheld that can potentially be put along 360/PS3 when it comes to multiplatform development is pretty cool. The problem comes when the market has too many of those kinds of games and people can't justify getting the system when they already have a PS3/360. I think the touch screen/sensors will do a lot to encourage development of more handheld like games but I am not sure I trust developers, particularly Western developers, not to take the easy way out. I trust that Sony will support their system with quality software but I am concerned about those third parties.

 

[Om3ga]

269.99-299.99USD in JPN for wifi version.
369.99-399.99 USN in JPN for 3G version.
299.99 in NA Wifi Only no Pack in (mostlikely won't be availble)
349.99-399.99 in NA Wifi Bundle. (4-8GB card, Headphones, Case, Download voucher?)
449.99-499.99 in NA wifi/3G Bundle (same items) which could be subsidized by contracts to 199.99 or Less).

I say the 349.99 bundle will be the most likely SKU to be available at launch. 3G version to launch in Spring.

 

[Mariah Carey]

Nintendo's approach with 3DS is making more sense now. I (and a lot of people) had pegged it for a hit-it-with-a-sledgehammer attempt at finally killing the PSP1 in Japan. But now it's definitely looking like a way to undercut NGP. I'm sure Nintendo's industrial spies (for lack of a better term) let them in on NGP's direction and it looks like they acted accordingly.

 

[BeEatNU]

Nintendo's approach with 3DS is making more sense now. I (and a lot of people) had pegged it for a hit-it-with-a-sledgehammer attempt at finally killing the PSP1 in Japan. But now it's definitely looking like a way to undercut NGP. I'm sure Nintendo's industrial spies (for lack of a better term) let them in on NGP's direction and it looks like they acted accordingly.

Mariah,

while you say this. I personally think that the 3ds is still waaaay to overpriced