GoldenEye 007
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NIMBYism and HOAs rule South Florida. A developer would get nuked trying to build this on any useful piece of land in the tri county area.
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South Florida has affordable housing crisis, shipping containers suggested as housing
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Crimson_Echidna
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They're actually building some here in Tallahassee.
I live in palm beach county. Part of the problem is available land. I'm afraid even a shipping container would have a high rent when there are few places to actually put them.
It's a real problem. I own a home, thankfully I was able to get in at the right time, but my friends that are still renting are really struggling.
During the housing boom of the early 00's rent was still affordable. After the crash resulted in many folks loosing their homes/credit. The rental market became way over populated. Now that homes prices are back up, There is still that high demand for rentals. So renters can't afford a new home, and can't afford their constantly increasing rent.
It's a whole new crisis. I wouldn't recommend anyone young looking for work to move down here.
It's a real problem. I own a home, thankfully I was able to get in at the right time, but my friends that are still renting are really struggling.
During the housing boom of the early 00's rent was still affordable. After the crash resulted in many folks loosing their homes/credit. The rental market became way over populated. Now that homes prices are back up, There is still that high demand for rentals. So renters can't afford a new home, and can't afford their constantly increasing rent.
It's a whole new crisis. I wouldn't recommend anyone young looking for work to move down here.
Trojita
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This has been a thing for several years. You can make a decent looking house with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXMWJyOdgw
We've got a whole shopping mall made out of containers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXMWJyOdgw
GraveRobberX
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Legos in a windstorm, unless there bolted down to the ground
Put the containers on stilts!
Fenderputty
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Developers rule small cities were I'm from. San Fran has the same issues
shira
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Maybe read up more on shipping containers?
Fenderputty
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Of corse they would be
lastplayed
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Yeah, I get it. But that mall was popped up to replace the entire CBD that was levelled after a big earthquake.
Ether_Snake
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Came here for typical Gaf response, got typical Gaf response.
Standardization and modulation is the future, it will be possible to even move the houses eventually, such as to be closer to work, or to be repurposed from student appartement to whatever else.
Standardization and modulation is the future, it will be possible to even move the houses eventually, such as to be closer to work, or to be repurposed from student appartement to whatever else.
MultiCore
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Yup, Chu City can be glorious compared to tents. And tents with walls are better than open bay tents. And AK Structures are better than the WW2b surplus tents.I lived in those while deployed in Iraq (CHUs), they're luxury compared to the poor smucks in tents.
However, even that first night in a real hotel (Dubai, London, Rammstein, Paris, etc) makes you just sit in the shower and cry for a few minutes to wash away the deployment.
I'll take any of the deployment housing over being homeless.
Escape Goat
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Nothing good has ever happened in a shipping container.
Squirrel Killer
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It's probably exactly what they have in mind, container housing is a bit of a trend in housing and young people are especially open to alternative housing options, including container housing, micro apartments, tiny houses, etc...
I'm also in PBC and echo this sentiment.
Not only is the housing inflated, but we also have a huge problem with companies taking advantage of people and not providing incomes to support what it costs to live here.
GraveRobberX
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Then we will have drowning containers due to water levels....
Florida should consider mass building half houses like they did in Chile.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...my-own-social-housing-chile-half-houses-video
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...my-own-social-housing-chile-half-houses-video
GraveRobberX
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Fenderputty
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How high off ground is a normal house in south Florida?
Zoe
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What's with the shipping container hate? They're the next hipster thing after tiny houses.
Somebody doesn't watch HGTV.
Not much. There are flood zones people are aware of, but homes typically are not built on an elevated foundation or anything like that. Not even in upper class neighborhoods like Coral Gables (and if they're sitting on any type of elevation, it must be subtle). On the other hand, there aren't really basements there.
It's not really a hate; I think it's cool, and I like ideas like that. The problem is that it isn't gonna do shit for housing prices in south florida. As others have said, the prices are inflated, the wages are shit, and the market swings a lot. SFla was one of the hardest hit areas in the 2008 housing crisis, IIRC.
A Link to the Past
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IrishNinja
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yeah, fuck this dude - didn't know median prices out here in MIA were that high, but then nobody i know is trying to live on the beach or brickell...especially the former, i lived there for a while and we don't even a need at tropical storm to flood that place. when people talk about my state becoming the next atlantis, the beach feels like the first to fall, sadly.
Eye for an Eye
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Probably a shitload better than some of those old mobile home parks. I'm surprised there are even those left after Andrew and the 2004 hurricane season.
Just before I moved out of Hollywood during the housing boom, many cities were using eminent domain to take over older/cheaper apartments to "revitalize" the city. I lived just off US 1 by Young Circle Park. I live in California now and pay less rent on a one bedroom than I did that hole in the wall studio. It was a duplex turned into a fourplex. I don't know if they ever completed their vision before the bust. But people were pissed.
I always thought it would be cool to renovate one. They're standard trailer size home 53x12, just over 600 sq ft. That's way bigger than some of those shitty apartments. My apartment now isn't much bigger than 450.
There's a lot of apartment made out of shipping containers in the Netherlands (if I remember correctly) and they look pretty nice. I wouldn't mind living in one.
Sign me up.
If this is what they have in mind then it can work, but
I lived in those while deployed in Iraq (CHUs), they're luxury compared to the poor smucks in tents.
if it's this then fuck 'em
makingmusic476
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I don't get it. Why aren't they just reused for shipping?
Is the manufacturing that cheap? Then why not manufacture something similar that's designed specifically for housing?
Is the manufacturing that cheap? Then why not manufacture something similar that's designed specifically for housing?
Aztechnology
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I'm seriously looking into this as my first place designing with the ability to add modularly as I progress. I'm a long way off of course, but they're fantastic, efficient and tough as hell.
Tiny homes are a great option to address homeless populations and give them some much needed freedom back. It should just be contingent on them keeping the place intact.
There's already communities for homeless that have been doing this in some areas. A lot of people fighting against it though because they're jackasses.
Tiny homes are a great option to address homeless populations and give them some much needed freedom back. It should just be contingent on them keeping the place intact.
There's already communities for homeless that have been doing this in some areas. A lot of people fighting against it though because they're jackasses.
Soapbox Killer
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They are really cheap to build and easier to order new ones than ship old ones back to their home port. Also there are Millions of these things around the world and they are Dinobot-grade steel and symmetric. You can pretty much build a house for 20k and look like a Post-mod hip to be square eco-friendly trailblazer.
mercenar1e
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The new american dream seems nice. Who wouldn't want to live in a shipping container? If you're foreclosed on the bank will just ship you off to some third world country halfway across the world.
I've done a little research. It seems six containers and the cost of modification and construction is about $185k USD from the various companies I've looked into. Then you need to consider the cost of the land.
It seems very cool and I am looking into it. Some of the designs I've seen these companies offering are amazing - very roomy and functional. I mean, it's basically just a funny shaped house. And where I live a new-ish construction of the same dimensions would be $50k - $75k more (in reasonable neighborhoods).
I should be noted that the really cool looking ones that pop up in Google image searches, with additional construction added on, are just as expensive if not more expensive then a regular home.
Muppet of a Man
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Boomers created the rentier economy. They can go fuck themselves with it.
Spladam
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Do Millennials like Legos? I know for us Gen Xers, they were amazing.
Anyway, a little condescending maybe, but I think it's a good idea. Recycling is always a virtue, and you could make some decent housing with them. You could even make floating homes with them, which, I mean, it's Florida.
-Edit: When I read the thread title, I immediately thought Ben Carson.
Anyway, a little condescending maybe, but I think it's a good idea. Recycling is always a virtue, and you could make some decent housing with them. You could even make floating homes with them, which, I mean, it's Florida.
-Edit: When I read the thread title, I immediately thought Ben Carson.
Sign me up.
This is cool. Seems a little bit smaller than my place but it has similar style/colors. I like it.
BudokaiMR2
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This. So much this.
Mohonky
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We've got a whole shopping mall made out of containers.
Rhats pretty cool. I could easily live in shipping containers.
I kind of dont think they'll be anything close to what is being posted here tho.
There is zero evidence to support this statement.
entremet
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You also have higher salaries.
Florida salaries are a joke if I remember when interviewing there.
We've got a whole shopping mall made out of containers.
Christchurch?
Yaphett Kotto
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We've got a whole shopping mall made out of containers.
That reminds me of Austin where there is a club/bar there made out of shipping containers.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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You people posting converted containers by designers are not understanding.
People are literally putting shipping containers, in backyards and trying to charge people $400 a month as an efficiency.
No air, not finishing, nothing. Some of them cut a hole and put a window in.
People are literally putting shipping containers, in backyards and trying to charge people $400 a month as an efficiency.
No air, not finishing, nothing. Some of them cut a hole and put a window in.
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