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Spider-Man: Homecoming review thread [92% RT]
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I saw it in IMAX last night. Looked fine.
Most of my cinemas have stepped up their game of late. The big draw for me was seeing it on a BIG screen instead of the relic theaters from the 60s/70s still trying to maximize their buck.
The vaccination controversy comment in his review is straight up bull shit. Dude is a hack.
There's got to be something wrong with him internally. A wire connected to the wrong node or something.
Ok I'm a pretty big Spider-Man fan. My first comic was an Amazing Fantasy #15 reprint (obviously) and I've read nearly every issue of "Amazing", "Spectacular", "Web of", and "Superior" (thanks Marvel Unlimited).
I loved Raimi's Spider-Man 1 & 2, and liked parts of 3. Garfield's Spider-Man (I think he did great with the character) was ok but the scripts were pretty bad.
I loved Homecoming. It's not perfect but it felt the most like Spider-Man from the comics in his early days brought to the screen. Toomes is a surprisingly effective villain, Iron Man isn't nearly as prevalent as trailers and posters might lead you to believe. Spoilers for specific likes a dislikes:
I'd rank the Spider-Man films like this:
Spider-Man
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Spider-Man 2
Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3
Amazing Spider-Man 2
I loved Raimi's Spider-Man 1 & 2, and liked parts of 3. Garfield's Spider-Man (I think he did great with the character) was ok but the scripts were pretty bad.
I loved Homecoming. It's not perfect but it felt the most like Spider-Man from the comics in his early days brought to the screen. Toomes is a surprisingly effective villain, Iron Man isn't nearly as prevalent as trailers and posters might lead you to believe. Spoilers for specific likes a dislikes:
Likes:
-The twist was a surprise which is rare as hell for me in movies. It was totally effective in achieving the "Oh no!" reaction
-The teen drama stuff normally puts me off movies, but I think it worked here. Parker always end up doing the right thing even when it would be so much easier to just go with the flow which is the essence of Spider-Man
-The Villain isn't an idiot! Keaton is so god damned good in this. Possibly better than Defoe's Goblin and I don't say that lightly, I'll revisit when the glow wears off but for now Keaton is one of the GOAT Marvel villains. Not in terms of scale of course but he evokes terror, and is smart enough to stay just one step ahead even when he's beat. The bit where he monologues to buy time for his wing suit to get going turns the BS trope in just the right way, similar to the Ozymandias "30 minutes ago" monologue.
-Karen, I thought Pete played off her better than Ned and I wonder if that's the mechanism they used to project Pete's inner monologue. It's a better system than the vlog thing they start the movie with. Also she's hilarious.
-They don't rehash the origin beyond a couple lines and instead of the Uncle Ben "Great Power" bit they give Tony a line that's just as effective without sounding too cliché.
-The big action scene at the end isn't about saving the girl (directly at least). Parker could have just stayed at Homecoming, not worried about things that clearly weren't his problem, but instead he abandoned Parker to do the right thing as Spider-Man with nothing but his own utilities, wits, and drive.
Dislikes:
-Michelle, I kind of wish they expounded on her character, she's either Peter's stalker, a collective hallucination, or dead pan comic relief, I'm not sure which fits but I feel like for as important as she seemed and for as many places she turned up I wanted a little more info on her.
-Aunt May, I hesitate to put this here, Marisa Tomei did fantastic, The idea of Aunt May being about the same age as you'd expect Parker's Mom to be struck me as odd in Civil War and Tony's comments on her in the limo were very Stark but also creepy especially considering the end. Everything else was wonderful though, May was what you'd hope for in her compassion, concern, and caring for Pete. Her helping him get dressed for Homecoming was a great touch.
-Ned, man...Ned seems like he should know the dangers of blabbing Spider-Man's identity but in every scene post reveal he goes out of his way to make Parker's life just a little bit harder with that knowledge. He has a great moment in the "Guy in the chair" bit but everywhere else he's baggage. Everyone has that friend I guess who really wishes them well but either through accident or incompetence gets them in more trouble.
-Liz, Generic eye candy senior girl in high school the protagonist crushes after. Like Michelle I wish she had more characterization beyond "Smart, pretty, senior girl in charge of Homecoming". Her one scene in the hotel on the way to the pool was a hint that they can take the character places but they never deliver on her being more than either a prize or a damsel.
-The twist was a surprise which is rare as hell for me in movies. It was totally effective in achieving the "Oh no!" reaction
-The teen drama stuff normally puts me off movies, but I think it worked here. Parker always end up doing the right thing even when it would be so much easier to just go with the flow which is the essence of Spider-Man
-The Villain isn't an idiot! Keaton is so god damned good in this. Possibly better than Defoe's Goblin and I don't say that lightly, I'll revisit when the glow wears off but for now Keaton is one of the GOAT Marvel villains. Not in terms of scale of course but he evokes terror, and is smart enough to stay just one step ahead even when he's beat. The bit where he monologues to buy time for his wing suit to get going turns the BS trope in just the right way, similar to the Ozymandias "30 minutes ago" monologue.
-Karen, I thought Pete played off her better than Ned and I wonder if that's the mechanism they used to project Pete's inner monologue. It's a better system than the vlog thing they start the movie with. Also she's hilarious.
-They don't rehash the origin beyond a couple lines and instead of the Uncle Ben "Great Power" bit they give Tony a line that's just as effective without sounding too cliché.
-The big action scene at the end isn't about saving the girl (directly at least). Parker could have just stayed at Homecoming, not worried about things that clearly weren't his problem, but instead he abandoned Parker to do the right thing as Spider-Man with nothing but his own utilities, wits, and drive.
Dislikes:
-Michelle, I kind of wish they expounded on her character, she's either Peter's stalker, a collective hallucination, or dead pan comic relief, I'm not sure which fits but I feel like for as important as she seemed and for as many places she turned up I wanted a little more info on her.
-Aunt May, I hesitate to put this here, Marisa Tomei did fantastic, The idea of Aunt May being about the same age as you'd expect Parker's Mom to be struck me as odd in Civil War and Tony's comments on her in the limo were very Stark but also creepy especially considering the end. Everything else was wonderful though, May was what you'd hope for in her compassion, concern, and caring for Pete. Her helping him get dressed for Homecoming was a great touch.
-Ned, man...Ned seems like he should know the dangers of blabbing Spider-Man's identity but in every scene post reveal he goes out of his way to make Parker's life just a little bit harder with that knowledge. He has a great moment in the "Guy in the chair" bit but everywhere else he's baggage. Everyone has that friend I guess who really wishes them well but either through accident or incompetence gets them in more trouble.
-Liz, Generic eye candy senior girl in high school the protagonist crushes after. Like Michelle I wish she had more characterization beyond "Smart, pretty, senior girl in charge of Homecoming". Her one scene in the hotel on the way to the pool was a hint that they can take the character places but they never deliver on her being more than either a prize or a damsel.
I'd rank the Spider-Man films like this:
Spider-Man
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Spider-Man 2
Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3
Amazing Spider-Man 2
link1201
Member
Let's see if Thor and Justice League can carry the momentum.
My ranking:
Spider-Man 2.
Spider-Man: Homecoming/Spiderman. (I honestly can't decide between them right now)
Amazing Spider-Man
Spider-Man 3.
Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
It was awesome
This is my ranking as well.
It's tough for me to put this over SM2, but I cannot decide if it is actually over SM1 for me. So I'll rank them the same for now.
It's crazy because the movie is just that good.
SmackAttack
Member
I've stayed out of Spidey threads but jumping on in here now. Going to see it in an hour, so hype!
I don't believe Armond and his bull shit reviews are counted by RT anymore.
Terrific result. Deserved though , the movie was awesome.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Just finished watching, really really enjoyed it.
My ranking this year is:
1. Logan
2. Spiderman
3. Guardians
4. Wonder Woman
It has been a fantastic year of comic movies thus far!
My ranking this year is:
1. Logan
2. Spiderman
3. Guardians
4. Wonder Woman
It has been a fantastic year of comic movies thus far!
I remember him pissing off everyone in the Get Out thread, unless things have changed since then.
Curious to hear your review, from a parent's perspective. How old are your kids? I'm debating on whether to take my 8yo daughter tomorrow.
Send me a PM, if you don't mind. Or just reply here.
Dude says we should be as wary as people liking Spider-Man Homecoming as we should of the vaccination controversy and also says it puts people on the cultural version of the autism spectrum and that's just the start of his review.
You'll want to temper your expectations for the Venom film abit.
Its being made by Sony, not Marvel like HC and probably won't involve Holland or Spider-Man from the sound of things.
broncobuster
Banned
Sounds about right.
Although, tbh, having rewatched other Spider-Mans recently, the gap between Spider-Man 1/Homecoming and Amazing Spider-Man is smaller than I expected. Say, there's a larger gap from SM2 to SM1/SMH or ASM1 to SM3 or even SM3 to ASM2.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Don't think it's been posted - Mark Kermode's review. He seemed to enjoy it.
Yeah, the other movies were fine - SM2 in particular is a very well made film, no doubt.
It is NOT the best Spider-Man movie. Homecoming is. The rest all sort of fall by the wayside.
Hydrargyrus
Member
Back to 94!
I feel like ASM1's quality is being posthumously being tarnished by ASM2. Just got around to watching that one. What the fuck, man. Opinions and all, but at worst i'd say ASM 1 is okay. Does many things worse than Tobey-man 1 and 2, but i feel there's some great stuff.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
He got de-listed for about a year but hes back on there now
Lifejumper
Member
That was some good shit brehs.
- Star Wars is back
- Dragon Ball Fighterz
- A great Spider-man movie
Childhood making an comeback.
- Star Wars is back
- Dragon Ball Fighterz
- A great Spider-man movie
Childhood making an comeback.
Gunslinger
Member
Really liked movie almost as good as originals except for 3. The soundtrack is trash tier compared to Elfman's score. It was a generic uninspired mess. Final rating 8.5/10.
This is like the golden age for anything remotely nerdy. We got quality Star Wars, twice, great CBM's out the ass in 2017, with Taika Thor still to come. (Not Hating on JL, im down for 3 hours of YEAUH)
I honestly loved the ASM1 theme. The whole score is really nice but the theme, which is sprinkled throughout, really got me pumped in the theater:
https://youtu.be/dutyevjedEc?t=2m32s
And the full score:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCyJYug9XY&index=1&list=PL071DDA796FFE4C96
AstroNut325
Member
Was this movie shot natively in 3D?
Post converted from what I heard.
I'm pretty sure nothing is shot natively in 3D anymore.
AlexFlame116
Member
Normally I watch movies on Tuesday because of the 5 dollar deal that theaters have here.
I couldn't resist with this one though so I'm watching it tomorrow! I'm excited!
I couldn't resist with this one though so I'm watching it tomorrow! I'm excited!
RoninChaos
Member
It was perfect. Fucking perfect.
this looks about right, yeah
Twig and Berries
Member
ASM is ok at best. In retrospect, a lot of the sins committed in ASM2 were seen in the first movie and then amplified in the sequel.
AlexFlame116
Member
Dang this thread is making me want to buy that two steelbook collection of Spider-Man 1-3 and Amazing 1 and 2.
So tempted....
So tempted....
broncobuster
Banned
Yeah. Sony still did a number on ASM1 taking out a lot of Kurt/Lizard's character. Whole cloth taking out his family. Some characters and plot lines just disappear from the movie because scenes cut out.
Just got back. Legitimately one of the best MCU films. Was very well acted out, good action, Keaton rules in everything he did in this film, what a performance.
Tom Holland is the best Spider Man. Period.
9.5/10
The end credits teaser is amazing, Marvel can do anything they want and somehow make it work lol.
Tom Holland is the best Spider Man. Period.
9.5/10
The end credits teaser is amazing, Marvel can do anything they want and somehow make it work lol.
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