Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Anyone know what tri-Ace's official Twitter handle is?
they would SQEXs approval to do anything anyways Id imagine.
Anyone know what tri-Ace's official Twitter handle is?
they would SQEXs approval to do anything anyways Id imagine.
Figured as much. I just sent it to SEUSA and @Playstation to create avitars out of those skill menu icons... Would be awesome.
Streaming the game from the beginning. https://youtu.be/CEGuXbLrGWI
Unskippable cutscenes. : (
What.... Is this real?
Right with you there, Star Ocean's in particular. Glad they're still in here!I don't know why, but I love the menu sounds in Star Ocean. Come to think of it, the menu/selection/etc sounds in most big JRPG series are quite evocative in a way that I don't think other games manage.
Is 'Full Manual' battle control an option?
Basically, tap O and your character simply swings their weapon on the spot, WITHOUT running up to the target first.
Please say that is an option...
How do you unlock fishing and mining? I unlocked item creation by accident, since towns feel so barren that I don't really feel like interacting with anything more than I have to.
Finished streaming and playing for today. After ~4 hours, I have to say that I have very mixed feelings about the game. It feels very... cheap? Empty maps with enemies scattered around remind me of Zestiria, most "cutscenes" being just characters standing and talking are like many people mentioned not that great. Add to that constant clipping (their feet go through all the bridges), and weird looking animations. I bet that most of my problems with the visuals and design come from PS3 limitations, but after playing SO4 a few years ago I was expecting something on a much bigger scale, not a few corridors which I already had to run through a few times.[/url]
I'm aware of that. It was also the case with Zestiria. This doesn't change the fact that I was expecting something a bit more epic (maybe because that's how I remember previous SO games when they came out).Well this game was developed on the PS3 and ported over to the PS4. So it would have some anchor of the PS3 development roots shown.
If the game was developed from the ground up with the PS4 in mind, I'd think these minor issues would have been addressed, but such as the nature from porting from cross gen unfortunately.
Wait is there a nice opening cinematic, or does it throw you roght into gameplay?
http://youtu.be/juSbn_jRyU8
My favorite is still 4's opening but this is fine, simple but fine... Love the music though.
The cutscene direction seems to me rather a problem of budget and not a deliberate choice by tri-ace. It's expensive to create cutscenes with their specific animations and cinematography, so it's cheaper and easier to just have an audio clip running with some standard animations looping while the camera remains static.
How do you unlock fishing and mining? I unlocked item creation by accident, since towns feel so barren that I don't really feel like interacting with anything more than I have to.
Well this game was developed on the PS3 and ported over to the PS4. So it would have some anchor of the PS3 development roots shown.
If the game was developed from the ground up with the PS4 in mind, I'd think these minor issues would have been addressed, but such as the nature from porting from cross gen unfortunately.
Yeah. In a time when mid-budget games are pretty hard to rationalize financially, having them actually be made is going to lead to some shortcuts and compromises. If it means we get these kind of games at all, I'm on board.
The cutscene direction seems to me rather a problem of budget and not a deliberate choice by tri-ace. It's expensive to create cutscenes with their specific animations and cinematography, so it's cheaper and easier to just have an audio clip running with some standard animations looping while the camera remains static.
Same NPC? That's so weird, because creation is like the 5th skill on that screen, which led me to believe I missed something in the first/second town.you just answered why you didnt learn fishing and mining.
you need to go talk to welch multiple times and she gives you more chores "quests" to do. the last one that she gives is blacksmithing.
Not as much. Id say its more poor direction rather than hardware alone. As it goes kinda past "minor issues"
Not really since they went through the trouble to do facial animations and gestures of the characters at times during these scenes but didnt bother with having the camera pulled in close or anything. Screams more poor direction by someone who has no idea what they really want to do rather than just no money.
they mentioned it was done to not take away control from the players for large periods (SO4 was ridiculous in this department, some cutscenes went on and on) and some of these cutscenes directly lead to battles, and they wanted that transition to be seamless apparently.
Also tri-Ace is pretty bad at cutscene direction, so I guess they just went 'fuck it' and made them like that
Thanks for making this thread! I have my NA version pre-ordered, but am apprehensive about how well the game will turn out.
Thanks for the impressions! After reading your thoughts, as well as watching some streams on Twitch, I think I might pass on SO5. Maybe I will pick it up when I can get it cheap second hand in a year or so..How do you unlock fishing and mining? I unlocked item creation by accident, since towns feel so barren that I don't really feel like interacting with anything more than I have to.
Finished streaming and playing for today. After ~4 hours, I have to say that I have very mixed feelings about the game. It feels very... cheap? Empty maps with enemies scattered around remind me of Zestiria, most "cutscenes" being just characters standing and talking are like many people mentioned not that great. Add to that constant clipping (their feet go through all the bridges), and weird looking animations. I bet that most of my problems with the visuals and design come from PS3 limitations, but after playing SO4 a few years ago I was expecting something on a much bigger scale, not a few corridors which I already had to run through a few times.
I'll probably keep playing, since I have a feeling that the game might become more epic later and combat now is much more enjoyable than before (currently level 22).
Combat so far is rather mindless and I completely understand the "attacking doesn't feel good" part - regular attacks have a weird lag between input and execution.
At least the last boss of a sudden secret "dungeon" (which itself felt like a joke) was finally a challenge and I had 2 characters temporarily die during the fight just because I never had to guard and step dodge before.
I really hope it gets better, because right now it feels like a Tales game with nice looking characters and less charm (PA < Skits) outside of menus.
If anyone wants to watch the archive of my stream, it should all be here once YT finishes processing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEGuXbLrGWI&feature=youtu.be
im guessing it must be fairly high since still for mining at 5 getting nothing is more common than something. still get cash exp and sp though
You can skip the cutscenes (not talking about the "small talk" breaks, but the real cutscenes) but I'm not sure you have the option on cutscenes you never saw before.
had to cut the screen since it was a bit spoilerish.
Gathering & Mining max is 8.
Same NPC? That's so weird, because creation is like the 5th skill on that screen, which led me to believe I missed something in the first/second town.
Yeah, I got everything aside from the last one? Requiring you to get 2 key items. I went out the city through the East exit and since there is no way of checking location names aside from the one you're currently in, I'm not sure if I the area I need to go wasn't on the West side (where I currently can't go). I really hope that there's some kind of fast travel later in the game, because running between towns if you want to backtrack would be very tedious.Yeah she asks you to go collect crap and whatnots.
The skills are not all perfectly lined up it seems.
Thanks for the write up! Nice to see more impressions from someone who hasn't played star ocean before as I'm planning on it being my first star ocean when it gets localIzed. Sounds like it is pretty solid!So far, I gotta say I am really enjoying this game. To be honest, I haven't played much of the previous games, so I am kind of going in completely blind, i just needed a good JRPG for the ps4 to play when Dark Souls 3 crushes my soul.
From someone who isn't a vet, here are a couple impressions.
Sound
Music and sound are all really good, i get the feeling of Xenoblade sometimes, and the sound effects are very reminiscent of an old school rpg, really nice. There is an option for battle music to reset or just continue in the menu which I adore, think of all those games where the same 15 seconds keeps playing!
Graphics
It does look like an upres'd ps3 game, it's not bad, but not super beautiful, it's more than serviceable, but small details are wonderful, like the characters eyes moving and rolling soo naturally, they have life to them. The camera is really distracting, it does move too much for my liking, but I will mess around with settings tonight, might help with it. The lighting is nice, especially when the days cycle, it's quite beautiful.
Gameplay
Since I haven't played other games, but many RPGs, this is interesting. It feels like a real time action game, but with the MC, his actions feel more like I am loading up actions into an invisible command list, not sure if he is just slow, but will try other characters soon. I think the battle system is interesting, but I still don't understand it completely.
The core mechanics of the game are wonderful, i love being able to gather and gain experience and gold, sometimes I just want to run around a field and collect stuff, in this game, you can actually level up solely by doing so if you wanted, it's amazing. The side stuff really feels like an addition to the game, not as an afterthought or something, especially crafting and gathering.
Story
I'm not far at all, literally just got to the second town, but have played like 3 hours, but so far, nothing has happened but I like the characters so far, MC isn't angsty or anything, Miki is pretty cool, the way she speaks and manipulates MC is really realistic.
Overall, I am really enjoying it going in fresh, if you haven't played a Star Ocean game like me, don't be afraid, it's still completely enjoyable, you might just have a bit of a time trying to wrap your head around the battle system, which is a fun thing to do with any RPG anyways.
Those were just my 2 cents, hopefully no one will tear me a new one for being a noob, ww.