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Stuck in the Past - a 33 RPM thread for vinyl listeners and collectors

BenN

Member
which ones are those? the blackened labelled releases?

Yeah. Not sure if Chris Bellman did them all though, I can only confirm Ride the lighting has his signature in the deadwax (and have read that kill em all does too).

Apparently the first lot of blackened re-releases were pretty bad (2014?), but the 2016 ones are good.

This is the Ride the lighting I have:

https://www.discogs.com/Metallica-Ride-The-Lightning/release/8617629

Its the EU/UK version but I assume its identical to the USA blackened release too (as it has P-USA in the deadwax, i.e pressed at Pallas)
 

123rl

Member
There's some text along the edge but I couldn't see any mention of CB. It's pretty faint though and there's a fair bit that's hard to read
 

MattyG

Banned
So I got a player for Christmas but have had a few LPs for a couple months. Just started researching care and stuff for them and found out that you shouldn't store them horizontally. I had a few stored horizontally for a week or two, does it take longer than that for them to get fucked up or can that do it? (Edit: did some more searching and it seems like I'd need a much bigger stack and more time to screw them up.)

Also, any other tips for a beginner on care and handling?
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
What do you mean horizontally?

Ideally your records would sit like this

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Extra mile care would be each having their inner paper sleeve replaced with something like this and altogether stored in an outer sleeve like this. That's after giving the record a proper cleaning (either using a device like a spin clean or with a record cleaning fluid mixture and a micro fiber cloth. A good one that doesn't shed if it sheds it will only leave traces of itself in the grooves of the record and impede performance.
 

Xun

Member
A few records stacked upon each other horizontally won't hurt for a few weeks, but you must store them like the above.
 

MattyG

Banned
Okay, thank you! I'm going to go out shopping tomorrow and get crates and a cleaning kit and I'll order some sleeves.

I have to go check my dad's old collection in the basement tonight. He said he has an original copy of Rumors and The Man Who Sold The World among like 200 others, so I'm really hoping they're in good condition.
 

MattyG

Banned
Alright, so I got a cleaning kit and am now cleaning my records before I play them. Got sleeves coming in the mail later this week too. I just picked up Every Open Eye by Chvrches and Run The Jewels 2 to add to the collection. So so far I've got

- Camp & Because The Internet (Childish Gambino)
- The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust & Blackstar (Bowie)
- Currents and Innerspeaker (Tame Impala)
- Wilder Mind (Mumford and Sons)
- Good Kid, MAAD City Deluxe & To Pimp A Butterfly (Kendrick Lamar)
- Every Open Eye
- Run The Jewels 2 (1 is on its way from ebay)

I'm loving searching for harder to find albums, putting a collection together, and just sitting down and listening to a full album.

Where do you live? I'm in the UK and these are very good for storing records:

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/1165140
1165140_R_Z001A_UC1498228


Each shelf holds about 40-45 records, with an inch or so of clearance and the front and top
I'm in the US, but I'll keep my eye out for something like this, thanks!
 

MattyG

Banned
Just picked up Mumford and Sons' Sigh No More and it's one of the worst quality records in my collection so far, sadly. Tons of distortion and popping, and I looked it up and looks to be a widespread issue with this album. Lesson learned to research quality before purchasing instead of assuming it'll be fine :/

Edit: Looks like it's just the A side, which is what everyone else has the issue with according to reviews. Shame, some of the best songs on the album are on that side.
 
Just picked up Mumford and Sons' Sigh No More and it's one of the worst quality records in my collection so far, sadly. Tons of distortion and popping, and I looked it up and looks to be a widespread issue with this album. Lesson learned to research quality before purchasing instead of assuming it'll be fine :/

Edit: Looks like it's just the A side, which is what everyone else has the issue with according to reviews. Shame, some of the best songs on the album are on that side.
I hate that feeling, I've been burned twice and it was rough. One of the pluses of buying used I guess, haha
 

Dan-o

Member
I kind of hate the packaging they've gone with for these Twin Peaks releases. The art is fine I guess, but I don't like the die-cut chevron outer sleeve that much. They could/should have done something better.

Of course, I've bought my ticket to see FWWM and pick up the vinyl. Yay!
 

Shaneus

Member
Does anyone here have any tips on buying preamps? I started looking at the Behringer PP440, but for a little more I can get an ART DJ Pre II which seems to be getting solid reviews.
 

akileese

Member
I kind of hate the packaging they've gone with for these Twin Peaks releases. The art is fine I guess, but I don't like the die-cut chevron outer sleeve that much. They could/should have done something better.

Of course, I've bought my ticket to see FWWM and pick up the vinyl. Yay!

I'd love to go but it's a 50 minute drive on a work night and I'm not taking a PTO day to see that the next day. I'm with you on the sleeve. I wish they'd gone for something different. Just not sure what.
 

overcast

Member
My girlfriend got me a record player so I finally have one.

Any ideas on something cheap and reliable to put said turntable on while I'm living in a single room. Just need something efficient.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
My girlfriend got me a record player so I finally have one.

Any ideas on something cheap and reliable to put said turntable on while I'm living in a single room. Just need something efficient.
IKEA 2x2 Kallax shelf
 

123rl

Member
I picked up a couple of old favourites this week:

Oasis - Don't Believe The Truth

A very underrated album even though it's one of their strongest and most consistent

Thrice - Illusion Of Safety

A personal favourite of mine and probably the album with the most songs that started my love of Thrice
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
I'm curious about those Massive Attack reissues.

Is there any info on where they're pressed or who is doing the remaster?

I have OP's of Blue Lines and Protection as well as the 2012 Blue Lines reissue (which sounded great at the time), but I'm kinda worried about these new ones.
 

123rl

Member
I was going to go easy this month but I've just ordered a few new albums and put an offer in on a boxset on eBay. It could be another expensive month for vinyl
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
I was going to go easy this month but I've just ordered a few new albums and put an offer in on a boxset on eBay. It could be another expensive month for vinyl
No such thing as an easy vinyl month
 
Finally received my twin peaks replacement and it's just as noisy as the last copy.

No excuse for it really. Not sure why I can go into Camden Market and pick up an old pressing of the Erasherhead soundtrack and it sound flawless, but my brand new Twin Peaks pressing sounds crap.

I pray Death Waltz don't use Rainbo for FWWM as well.
 

123rl

Member
No such thing as an easy vinyl month

Yeah...I've learnt that the hard way. I picked up another album this morning. I need help!

Finally received my twin peaks replacement and it's just as noisy as the last copy.

No excuse for it really. Not sure why I can go into Camden Market and pick up an old pressing of the Erasherhead soundtrack and it sound flawless, but my brand new Twin Peaks pressing sounds crap.

I pray Death Waltz don't use Rainbo for FWWM as well.


Camden market...

I went to London last week and, while waiting for my train from Euston, I went to Camden for a look around. This is about 9:30 in the morning. Every record store was closed. Two were due to open at 11am so I waited around. By 11:20, they still weren't open so I gave up. Another one was due to open at 11:30. By noon...yeah, you guessed. So I went home without seeing a single record store.

I don't believe modern records are inherently worse than old records, but there's lots of examples of old records I've bought that sounded great and new releases (still sealed) that sounded awful. Californication is the worst one I've ever heard and I took it to HMV for an exchange. It was unplayable.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
Older records also had the opportunity to not be produced in manufacturing facilities that weren't overloaded with jobs. Quality oversight drops heavily when some albums have to be submitted six months in advance for the them to be pressed and manufactured in time for release. I'm gunna bet that's the reason why a lot of Frank Ocean - Blond orders are still left unfulfilled and why a lot of modern era pressings don't have the proper quality control that older albums had the pleasure of receiving.
 

123rl

Member
Quality control definitely is an issue. I bought a Foo Fighters album from Amazon and one LP was full of scratches on both sides in one corner. There was a lump or two of wax stuck to the edge, which came off in my hand. I phoned Amazon and they exchanged it. My replacement was fine
 

Shaneus

Member
Quality control definitely is an issue. I bought a Foo Fighters album from Amazon and one LP was full of scratches on both sides in one corner. There was a lump or two of wax stuck to the edge, which came off in my hand. I phoned Amazon and they exchanged it. My replacement was fine
Except for the fact it was still a Foo Fighters album ;)
 
Yeah...I've learnt that the hard way. I picked up another album this morning. I need help!




Camden market...

I went to London last week and, while waiting for my train from Euston, I went to Camden for a look around. This is about 9:30 in the morning. Every record store was closed. Two were due to open at 11am so I waited around. By 11:20, they still weren't open so I gave up. Another one was due to open at 11:30. By noon...yeah, you guessed. So I went home without seeing a single record store.

I don't believe modern records are inherently worse than old records, but there's lots of examples of old records I've bought that sounded great and new releases (still sealed) that sounded awful. Californication is the worst one I've ever heard and I took it to HMV for an exchange. It was unplayable.

I'm in Somerset, so when I get the chance to go to Camden and visit friends etc, I grab it with both hands. The bank account didn't like it so much though!

I find brand new vinyl is far more inconsistent than the old used vinyl. Of course the high prices compound the issues as well - if you're going to charge me £20 it should be of decent quality.

Another brand new LP I bought recently was the latest Leonard Cohen album, and side one is a frustrating listen as there's a weird scratchy hum throughout. Side 2 is flawless though.

Did anyone here order the new NIN EP on vinyl a few weeks back? I ordered one immediately but no idea if they've dispatched over in the States or not?
 

123rl

Member
Muse - The Resistance

Absolutely lovely-sounding album and honestly one of my favourite Muse albums. The dynamic range of some songs sounds incredible here, and I'm very impressed
 

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123rl

Member
I bought a few albums and the biggie arrived today - Rise Against: The Sufferer And The Witness

It's one of their best albums, my personal favourite, and an absolute punk classic. I didn't know at the time, but I ordered the original 2006 pressing and not the reissue. The packaging is pretty flimsy though tbh but it sounds fantastic
 

Fritz

Member
Hi everyone, since I got a record player for Christmas I've been building up a tiny collection of records and would love to share and chat with you guys.


Record Player is a modest TEAC TN-300. Most important to me was a sturdy build with some weight, an amicable design and a pre amplifier that can also be turned off. Price limit was 300 EUR. The USB output was a plus since I knew I could do my parents a big favor that would knock them off their feed, digitalizing their old records :). I personally don't really need it, though it's nice to have looking at some of my old records.

Here is a pic of my set up.


The player is hooked to my Yamaha Pianocraft, which is also a modest system I guess. I used to work for BMG Music some years ago and all the A'n'Rs had one in their office. That's where I got that idea from. If it's good enough for THEM... I have a small apartment and the sound is fine. I don't wanna go full „hi fi - retard” just now. The shelf is a IKEA best module which I got reduced from their repository section. It fits right under the shelves and can be pushed underneath when I finished playing.

Leads me to my record collection so far.

Accompanying my christmas present I got myself my (everybody's!) two favorite Christmas albums
Andy Williams - Christmas Album
Phil Spector - Christmas Album

Next up my personal acquisitions so far
Michael Jackson - Off the Wall
Kyu Sakomoto - Ue o muite arukou (Single, also known as „Sukijaki”)
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
A Tribe Called Quest - We Got It from Here... Thank You 4 Your Service

Followed up the stuff I collected from my parent's
My big sister haul
Madonna - Live To Tell Single
Madonna - true blue
Depeche Mode - 101
Michael Jackson - Thriller

My big brother haul
Tone Loc - Loc-ed After Dark
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
Run DMC - Raising Hell

And my own „best of” from back in the days :D
Clannad - Legend (Robin of Sherwood TV series OST)
Graham Gouldman - Animalympics OST
„Flattertiere wie Vampire” (bats like vampires - spooky story adapted from a mildly popular children's book)

I am really happy so far. I wanna keep it seriously eclectic and don't want to buy stuff just for the heck of it. I am firstly looking to complete my Tribe collection and than move from there.
 

123rl

Member
Hi everyone, since I got a record player for Christmas I’ve been building up a tiny collection of records and would love to share and chat with you guys.

*snip*.

Welcome :) I'm fairly new to vinyl myself and I've been collecting for about six months now. It's a wonderful hobby and very rewarding to buy a beloved personal favourite, and to hear it in a whole new (and superior) way.

Beastie Boys, Michael Jackson, and A Tribe Called Quest? Yeah, I like your tastes an awful lot
 

Fritz

Member
Welcome :) I'm fairly new to vinyl myself and I've been collecting for about six months now. It's a wonderful hobby and very rewarding to buy a beloved personal favourite, and to hear it in a whole new (and superior) way.

Beastie Boys, Michael Jackson, and A Tribe Called Quest? Yeah, I like your tastes an awful lot

Thanks bud. I am lucky enough to live in a big city with an abundance of record stores. But it's also really tempting to go crazy and buy clutter :)
 

123rl

Member
Thanks bud. I am lucky enough to live in a big city with an abundance of record stores. But it's also really tempting to go crazy and buy clutter :)

I live very close to Manchester, UK. It's always had a huge music scene and there are several good record stores.I don't use them very often though. Most of my favourite purchases have come from eBay or Amazon marketplace. Shop around and know what to expect in terms of prices, and you can find some real bargains
 

Fritz

Member
I live very close to Manchester, UK. It's always had a huge music scene and there are several good record stores.I don't use them very often though. Most of my favourite purchases have come from eBay or Amazon marketplace. Shop around and know what to expect in terms of prices, and you can find some real bargains

Ah yes, I imagne the UK in general must be record dreamland. It is kinda curious how you can "read" a city in a local record store. In Berlin you mainly find punk and wave for whatever reason.

I did set an ebay alarm for "tribe quest vinyl" hehe
 

Dan-o

Member
I bought a few albums and the biggie arrived today - Rise Against: The Sufferer And The Witness

It's one of their best albums, my personal favourite, and an absolute punk classic. I didn't know at the time, but I ordered the original 2006 pressing and not the reissue. The packaging is pretty flimsy though tbh but it sounds fantastic

That's a great album :)

My wife has a running joke* that whenever we hear Rise Against on the radio, she says "Is this Thrice?" and when we hear Thrice, she says "Is this Rise Against?"


*
not at all funny, honestly, but she thinks it is, so I smile. I mean, they don't sound the same AT ALL, dammit.
 

123rl

Member
Ah yes, I imagne the UK in general must be record dreamland. It is kinda curious how you can "read" a city in a local record store. In Berlin you mainly find punk and wave for whatever reason.

I did set an ebay alarm for "tribe quest vinyl" hehe

There are shops in Manchester that specialise in 70s-80s, and cover all genres. There's an awesome second hand shop that sells everything and it's so well organised. Then there's mainstream shops and a few more niche shops dotted around. I'd love to see punk represented a bit more but it isn't, sadly.

That's a great album :)

My wife has a running joke* that whenever we hear Rise Against on the radio, she says "Is this Thrice?" and when we hear Thrice, she says "Is this Rise Against?"


*
not at all funny, honestly, but she thinks it is, so I smile. I mean, they don't sound the same AT ALL, dammit.


lol. I have a friend and we play this same joke with each other. Whenever one of us goes to a show, the other person will pretend to not know the band at all. It's a dumb joke but we've been doing it for 5 years now
 
Hi everyone, since I got a record player for Christmas I’ve been building up a tiny collection of records and would love to share and chat with you guys.
That's awesome man, I love seeing people's set ups! So jelly. I also just recently acquired Paul's Boutique, you're gonna love it!

Oh and if you're interested in that album, here's a mixtape created by three DJs as an ode to Boutique- the entire album is remixed using the same sample sources on each track but different samples than the ones used on the record. Sounds complicated but it's not.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
There's a small sale going on at Popmarket right now. Picked up Prince' first record for $12 and Outkasts Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik for $9.

Use POPMARKET10 for an extra 10% off.
 

Fritz

Member

123rl

Member
I picked up two more Rise Against albums: Siren Song Of The Counter Culture and Appeal To Reason. Both undoubted punk classics, although neither are my favourite Rise Against album. I bought them from a seller on Amazon for a good price. I was pleased the Appeal To Reason vinyl is a first pressing, on a clear white vinyl
 
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