What has that got to do with MS owning the IP? Couldn't they just as well do that if Remedy owned the IP?
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What has that got to do with MS owning the IP? Couldn't they just as well do that if Remedy owned the IP?
Pound_lb003
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But hypothetically; Insomniac, after finding great success with SO, will look at the 10mil install base of XB1 and the multiplat install base of 20mil, and have the freedom to go to an EA, or Activision with their own IP. Or possibly even fund it themselves.
Nah, they're doing the TV show that ties in with Quantum Break, while Remedy works on the game.
Steverulez
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Well they could, but someone has to fund all this work which probably isn't going to be Remedy and thus in exchange, Microsoft get to keep the IP.
Although I would guess Alan Wake might not have made enough to fund QB anyway? Who knows
I feel your pain.
That's a normal flame bait post from Salvor, he likes to follow me around and try to fling shit.
Ol No Bones
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I don't think they would go through the trouble for an IP they might lose but its just speculation.
Depending on how deep the hooks are for Azure and the way they will constantly be updating the game there's potential for it to stay Xbox One exclusive going forward just because of infrastructure.
Miles Quaritch
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Sure, but they'd also be tied down any potential contractual obligations that would allow MS to keep the IP exclusive to their console as they did with Gears.
Steverulez
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Well, they could but presumably Insomniac aren't setting Microsoft up to get their new property big and take it multi platform.
Whilst there is obviously a case for multi platform, you would have to consider, could another publisher (would they) do the same job Microsoft did of publishing a sequel to get the same or more success? (assuming a certain level of success)
Xbox One is going to have exclusive games, if the partnership works well why would you risk a good relationship and sales if you have something good going on?
Just because there is a case for going multi platform doesn't mean it would always make sense. Would Gears have had the same success if EA published it? (See Bulletstorm for more detail) as an example? Not to say MS are some sort of gods, but looking at the individual relationships, it could be of much better of benefit to Insomniac to remain exclusive
Actually I think the whole reason they bought the Gears IP was because EPIC wanted to move on and make other things. So they now own it and can have their own studios work on it. I don't think Microsoft is super IP hungry, if they were they would have got GOW after the success of the first one.
Microsoft probably owns the publishing rights though, I'd imagine, as that is the standard in 3rd party exclusivity dealings, so I suppose in that case the best Insomniac could hope for then is a PC release if MS are willing to allow it.
TheUnsunghero26
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I've noticed that with a lot of Xbox One games haha.
Well it's not going to be Remedy's IP if MS have their own studio working on it are they?
Imagine if it was and it was released on PS4, it would have content that MS first party studios worked on .... would never happen.
And chances of Ryse going multi? Pretty much nil, seems like MS is invested in that franchise. If Sunset does well I imagine they won't let that go either.
It's always kinda obvious what games could possibly go multiplatform, Dead Rising 3 being a possibility (even then tho I don't expect it).
Pound_lb003
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Yeah, I took that right back on the last page. Sorry, an honest mistake.
Of course it does. But exactly as the situation with FFXIII was, it leaves Microsoft entirely open to having an exclusive go multiplatform. It's weird to me, they're pumping money into properties; they are paying to strengthen brands, that aren't even theirs.
And by that I mean, even paying for development of a game that isn't theirs is spending money strengthening a brand they don't own. The money they'll spend marketing it, could be spent on marketing a game they own.
It's just plain weird to me. And short sighted.
Twin Tails
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R3TRODYCE
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Miles Quaritch
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Someone press him for more details. How does it play, visuals, fluidity, etc.
CassidyIzABeast
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Not cool bro
RealityPales
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Quite possibly the only reason I would want to buy an Xbox One this year. Fingers crossed they deliver.
I think at times people put too much importance on permanent exclusives vs timed. Other than console list wars it doesn't really matter much in the end.
Look at Bioshock, Mass Effect, Dead Rising. Even when versions of these games came out on PS3 it was too late. The audience for them was already on the 360 thus the majority of the sales were on 360.Same went for Final Fantasy and Metal Gear on PS3. I expect the same for Titanfall. When/if the PS4 gets the sequel the majority of its fans will be on X1.
Too many people underestimate how important even timed exclusives are. Not every game has to be a permanent exclusive just to make a difference.
With that being said as much as people like to say MS throws around money just to keep games off of competing systems. I don't think they're doing enough of it. Which makes me question if they're fully into this console war(wanting to be #1).
Just a few years ago they were willing to spend 40 billion iirc on Yahoo. They could spend roughly half that and dominate this industry. Buy Ea, Activision, Take2. You get where I'm going. But they seem to want to take the harder route.
I remember reading Dean Takahashi's Xbox books. And Ed Fries had to decide between Gears , or a Valve exclusive. Even though MS clearly had the funds to do both, he went with Gears obviously. Leading Dean to say MS was obviously the goliath vs Sony. But MS was acting like David.
yeah
Pound_lb003
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While the majority of individual title's sales are on the release date, the value they add to the platform is permanent. And the value exclusive titles add to the console is most obvious.
Either way there's no evidence to support whether there is ACTUAL value in titles remaining exclusive. All I am saying is MS is leaving themselves open to a situation like FFXIII going multiplatform. Just the kinda thing that'll have an impact on internet and affect the minority that read IGN regularly.
Salvor.Hardin
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He's the Xbox Live operations manager. I doubt he's going to spill anything.
His Boss does it all the time tho! lol
Yeah I definitely agree with you they leave themselves open at times.I just don't think they make a huge difference if they're 6mo or permanent exclusive. I work with a guy who's a long time gamer.(though not the type to read Neogaf). I was surprised to hear he thought Assassins creed was exclusive to Playstation due to the commercials ending with the PS logo. In other words I believe a timed exclusive or a commercial ending with one manufacturers logo could sway quite a few people into believing the game was exclusive. Indefinite or not.
Shaunboy97
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Major just tweeted that he's been playing it... More next week
I also doubt that he wouldn't LOVE the game. Let's see what other people say.
Handy Fake
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EDIT: Wrong thread,daftarse.
Ploid 3.0
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Probably inappropriate but..
This guy has Seen Sunset Overdrive, I want to see it too. I'm just interested in seeing how this game turns out. I'm rooting for Insomniac, and I honestly hope it does well for them. They are good people.
(hums)
Rock Resistance in Burbank
Come walk down our purple halls
we'll even let you play with our pinballs
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This guy has Seen Sunset Overdrive, I want to see it too. I'm just interested in seeing how this game turns out. I'm rooting for Insomniac, and I honestly hope it does well for them. They are good people.
(hums)
Rock Resistance in Burbank
Come walk down our purple halls
we'll even let you play with our pinballs
(hums)
Monty Mole
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So I revisit the thread and all I can see is IP owning bickering. Eh?
Unfortunately, yes.
lmao, jesus, GameSpot.
jstevenson
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can't wait for ya'll to read EDGE's story on Thursday.
I think their digital edition goes up overnight for US.
yea, saw that too. where the heck did GS get that info anyway?
i cant wait to read it. we literally know almost nothing about this game.
Steverulez
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condompickle
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No co-op campaign?
Steverulez
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Not sure, just "single player" and "multiplayer" at the moment, presumably versus and co-operative but we wait until details are out
Hnnng
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I remember reading that Insomniac was also tired of Sony throwing their games out and allowing them to bomb, maybe MS made a promise to actually push this title, It's a shame that Sony threw R3 out without a single fuck given.
TheUnsunghero26
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Ntkrnl said there will be a Sunset Overdrive Bundle, so that should help.
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