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Super Mario Galaxy 2 Confirmed!
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milkyjay20
Member
Eteric Rice said:
but that's the thing, they didn't HAVE to rehash anything. this is just so uncharacteristic of the company.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT GALAXY 2. So many new and crazy mechanics were introduced in that one trailer alone that I have to ask the people in this thread screaming rehash "why"? The different colored Yoshi's with different moves, GIANT LAND PLANET, Ice skating across a planet you froze, that fucking drill thing! Then there's the Super Mario World nods with the razor blades, the lifts. AHHHH this was such a good day for gaming. 
Davey Cakes
Member
What's to rehash though, other than the idea that Mario is in space?milkyjay20 said:
There are so many possibilities in terms of gameplay that can be explored, (i.e. the drill), so why even bother talking about the game being a rehash?
MisterHero
Super Member
What are you expecting? People seem to believe that Mario is at his best jumping around some brilliantly designed worlds even if there isn't some deep story connecting it. More platforms, objectives, and powers? Just because they don't make it obvious doesn't mean it's there.lethial said:
How is it not progressing?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Oblivion said:
Sucks for them I guess. Times like this I'll gladly take more of the same because I know it'll turn out well.
EvilMario said:You missed out, Sunshine.
And maybe on a couple titles like Yoshi's Island and every spin off title.
All the Yoshi's Islands had them, yes, but not every spinoff had them. And I don't remember multicolor Yoshis in Sunshine, but Yoshi just wasn't that useful in Sunshine, one of many disappointments about that game.
deadhorse32
Bad Art
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnGSTZqLEJA&fmt=22 High quality footage (still processing)
MisterHero said:
Sorry I guess progression wasn't the best word I should of used. Mario is really the only franchise that has any nostalgic value to me anymore and Mario 64 was the last "real" Mario game to me. Mind you the story in Mario has always been pretty dumb but the world and atmosphere of Mario 64 has yet to be bested in the franchise, in my opinion. Again, I liked Galaxy - it was fun and I can understand why Nintendo is going this route. It's just the 12 year old kid still in me that wants to wander around the Mario world in 3D busting bricks, collecting coins, shooting fireballs at Goombas and fighting Bowser.
lunarworks
Member
E3 1999. The Conker's Bad Fur Day booth. Free beer.Aaron Strife said:
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
For real.PepsimanVsJoe said:
The Nintendo crowd just boggles my mind sometimes. More wanking over "innovation" than fun.
This, Mario Bros Wii, and S&P2 should give me a reason to hook my Wii back up.
And I want a new 2D Mario in the same vein of Lost Levels / SMB2 Japan. That's never going to happen in a million years, but modern Mario fare is still typically more than enjoyable enough.lethial said:
Cygnus X-1
Member
Fantastic announcement.
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
That, too. I'd love to see the game become even more abstract. They've already laid the foundation, so I hope they're going to take advantage of it. I can't help but think of the leap between Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. 3 . . . if they can do even a fraction of that, this will be a worthwhile sequel.this guy said:I'm excited to find out what new ideas are being implemented in this game. When Miyamoto said that he felt that Super Mario Galaxy was too conservative, I was wondering just how crazy the next Mario game is going to be....
I guess I'll be finding out sooner than I thought.
voodoojohn
Banned
We've seen 1% of a game that's probably no where near completion, so I don't know how anyone could already be screaming "rehash!"
mightynine
Member
Seeing all these "rehash" comments makes me wonder what the reaction would've been to SMB3 if internet forums were around then.
MisterHero
Super Member
Joy**** has some screens
http://www.joy****.com/2009/06/02/reality-check-super-mario-galaxy-2-metroid-other-m-not-due-t
but Nintendo's E3 page has art but the FTP won't connect ;_;
http://www.joy****.com/2009/06/02/reality-check-super-mario-galaxy-2-metroid-other-m-not-due-t
but Nintendo's E3 page has art but the FTP won't connect ;_;
milkyjay20
Member
Rash said:
what you call possibilities, i call gimmicks. sure, they're neat, but they're not everlasting. i'm guessing by your standards, they can just keep making super mario galaxy forever on.
Davey Cakes
Member
Not really. I mean, it's two games we're talking about. Two. That's it.milkyjay20 said:
And besides, it's on the same console. Nintendo designed the basics of gameplay surrounding the idea of Mario in space and implemented them once on Wii. If they went by their typical model, we probably wouldn't see Galaxy 2, but would rather see a completely new kind of experience on the Wii's successor. However, the fact that Galaxy 2 is on the Wii changes things. They have the engine, they have the basic mechanics in play. It makes perfect sense to make a sequel and then test out new ideas with the groundwork that's already there.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Ahhh, hyperbole.milkyjay20 said:
What would E3 be without it?
mightynine
Member
This is the level that most intrigues me.
mightynine said:
Probably a lot different, as SMB3 was seen as the 'true sequel' to SMB1, after the deviating gameplay found in SMB2. SMG had a similar reaction, as it was seen as 'true successor' to Mario 64, rather than Mario Sunshine, which again deviated quite a bit with its emphasis on the use of a water pack.
Like many others here, I am not that excited by the announcement of the game (*). Let me start off by saying that SMG has been my favourite game of the past decade or so. Like SMB3, it takes the original concept, polishes the gameplay up by considerable margins and introduces new elements that make it feel fresh. I really loved the gravity and jump mechanics; it really did feel like platforming was reinvented.
Here comes a trailer that looks to be very similar and at first glance, and what is likely to be an even more polished version of SMG. New elements like Yoshi and the drill will surely add to the gameplay, but it will probably not come clear to the feeling you had when you first made jump around a planet. It feels more like the jump between SMB3 and SMW, perhaps.
I'll most likely play the game anyways, and will probably love it. Even if it will be likely be the better game (in absolute terms), it will probably not have the freshness which made the SMG experience so worthwhile in the first place. A negative reaction? Sure. Are we spoiled? Absolutely. But that's what you could expect after having witnessed a game that set the bar so damn high that it is nigh impossible to match, let alone top it.
(*) I should point out that I'm not easily hyped by any game anymore; even SMG did not excite me until the very last moment before release.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Pimpbaa said:
MAJORA'S MASK is the same, except with masks
Thunder Monkey
Banned
One thing I kinda got a kick of was the Yoshi/Sonic portion of the vid.beelzebozo said:
Nintendo's like "This is how you do speed and ramps in 3D Sega."
And they're like... "Oh."
Buckethead
Banned
Gameplay looks original enough, let's hope that the music and level design matches it.
Yoshi's ftw!
Yoshi's ftw!
Guybrush Threepwood
Banned
Please make it harder.
The best part in all of SMG was the Melty Molten Galaxy no hit run.
The best part in all of SMG was the Melty Molten Galaxy no hit run.
2 Minutes Turkish
Banned
Too soon compared to normal Mario rotation, but wow anyway.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Graphics has been slighty improved (was it possible with the Wii?). I just want to have an orchestrated soundrack once again. No compromises on this point.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Guybrush Threepwood said:
I don't think there's anything stopping you from playing through every other stage without getting hit.
SMG2 was unexpected and beautiful! now let's hope they bump difficulty make it challenging instead of the baby difficulty from MGS1.
and is it me does the PS3 motion sensor seems more playable and realistic realistic and reasonable(like the wii potion plus) an opposed to Project Latan on the 360??
and is it me does the PS3 motion sensor seems more playable and realistic realistic and reasonable(like the wii potion plus) an opposed to Project Latan on the 360??
milkyjay20
Member
Rash said:
or so you think. why not make a trilogy? it's hot right now. and it's limitless.
well yes, but that's being practical. we want games to be an art form, and this is not art, it's a rehash. it's a lot of different shit, but beneath it all, it's still the same game.
Thunder Monkey said:
hyperbole? galaxy is a bunch of random ass shit, just like, thrown together. so all these new gameplay possibilities--gimmicks--last minutes at most and they all rely on the game's universal mechanic.
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
as much as I loved Galaxy it was far from a flawless game. I won't get into it too much but i felt like 40% of the game was just ancillary bonus rounds.
so if they can fix that and some other issues, it'll be perfect. so rehash? not really, more of a "do over" so to speak
so if they can fix that and some other issues, it'll be perfect. so rehash? not really, more of a "do over" so to speak
