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[camineet]

I just played SSBM again, I take back what I said. it's been a few years since I played it, sorry.

 

[ZeoVGM]

SSBM on Gamecube had Dreamcast-class graphics, maybe even below DC-level.

It's not a troll, but you do realize that an opinion doesn't count if it's factually incorrect, right?

 

[Meier]

SSBM on Gamecube had somewhere above Dreamcast-class graphics, but not quiet upto the level of what Gamecube was capable of.

Just had to chime in on how ridiculous this is. :lol

 

[camineet]

let the tar & feathering continue


*changes subject*


Super Smash Bros Brawl looks AWESOME.

 

[Talladega Knight]

I just played SSBM again, I take back what I said. it's been a few years since I played it, sorry.

 

[underfooter]

uhhhh when will we see more! I have to go to the dentist soon

 

[gimz]

uhhhh when will we see more! I have to go to the dentist soon

tonight 12am EST!!

Spoiler

or 4am EST

lets the countdown begin!

 

[Firestorm]

anyone else think the big character portraits will get in the way of the action>?

Yes, I thought that as soon as I saw it. I think most people have already had the OLD icons get in the way during hectic free for alls where the action is divided.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Glad to see he came to his senses. I always thought Melee was an impressive looking game.

 

[hoverboarder]

I'm guessing those big face icons will only show up during timed play? You know that these screens are from timed play because lives are subtracted with +1 and -1. Maybe on stock play you still get mini heads of the character you're playing as like in the old games. I can't see how else they'd show your stock count, unless with a number over the big head. But that seems kinda cluttered.

 

[radiuhm]

Glad to see he came to his senses. I always thought Melee was an impressive looking game.

Yea especially Dream Land or w/e that kirby stage is that is out of space and has the water fountain, that stage is beautiful and the music is perfect.

 

[GhaleonQ]

I wonder what qualifies as "an update." Was this morning's information 3 updates or 1, I wonder?

 

[ManDudeChild]

This is basically the game that decides if I get a Wii ... yet it hasn't been confirmed if players can use the classic style controls.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Wasn't this game confirmed to use classic controlles since the very beggining?

No Waggle.

 

[BGBW]

I can't wait for the operatic take on this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrRVbIQYsxI

 

[Link Man]

I can't wait for the operatic take on this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrRVbIQYsxI

For that, you shall die.

 

[Oblivion]

Toru Minageshi- Twilight Princess

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't let this monkey near my game, damn it! He'll sully it!


But yeah, what can I say that hasn't been said already? Nintendo's going all out for this game, and it makes sense and all, but ****!!!!

Next gen. music just got ****ing OWNED.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I think they shoud use the French Jigglypuff voice from Melee for vocals in any songs that require them in brawl.

 

[KINGMOKU]

Well, to me the news about the music/talent is just awesome. It shows Nintendo is pulling out all the stops with this game. Future awesomeness is upon us folks. Folks. Folks. Man that word is strange if you keep saying it. Folks. Folks. Elbow. Elbow. Thats another wierd one.


I want some more news damn it!

 

[Threi]

I think they shoud use the French Jigglypuff voice from Melee for vocals in any songs that require them in brawl.

omg i was dying of laughter in the first 50 seconds lmao :lol

 

[CurseoftheGods]

I think they shoud use the French Jigglypuff voice from Melee for vocals in any songs that require them in brawl.

:lol @ your comment in the link.

 

[Oblivion]

Seriously, checking it out, this seems like they're putting effort in orders of magnitude higher than even something like Galaxy.

I mean this game..

-Got it's own trailer at its own private screening.
-A website launched a whole year before launching
-The biggest list of composers ever assembled

I mean, yeah SSBM was their best selling game last gen. but still.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Seriously, checking it out, this seems like they're putting effort in orders of magnitude higher than even something like Galaxy.

I mean this game..

-Got it's own trailer at its own private screening.
-A website launched a whole year before launching
-The biggest list of composers ever assembled

I mean, yeah SSBM was their best selling game last gen. but still.

And now I just want to see what they have been doing all this time, and maybe the thing in your tag without the tights, and I want to see it online, NOW.....

 

[Divvy]

Sakuraba appearing on that list has raised my hopes for Guilo appearing in the game.

Please don't crush my dreams, they are ever so fancy.

 

[Firestorm]

Is it just me or does Mario's u-tilt seem to have a lot more knockback than it used to... o_o

 

[RubxQub]

Is it just me or does Mario's u-tilt seem to have a lot more knockback than it used to... o_o

Seems alright for the most part? I mean, the guy is at 100%+

It's not like Link is in any danger of being knocked out.

 

[tiong_fi]

I will sell my PAL Wii and buy an US one if NoE screws this one up. ::angrypanda

 

[Firestorm]

Seems alright for the most part? I mean, the guy is at 100%+

It's not like Link is in any danger of being knocked out.

Yeah, but nobody went that high from his u-tilt even at like 200% in the last game iirc.

I will sell my PAL Wii and buy an US one if NoE screws this one up. ::angrypanda

Don't worry, if it's like Melee you'll get the superior version.

 

[CurseoftheGods]

Yeah, but nobody went that high from his u-tilt even at like 200% in the last game iirc.



Don't worry, if it's like Melee you'll get the superior version.

How was it superior?

 

[Dr.Hadji]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Don't let this monkey near my game, damn it! He'll sully it!

Hey TP had some nice tunes, besides we don't even know which ones he did. And besides besides, everyone can always do better.

 

[BGBW]

How was it superior?

French Jigglypuff of course.

 

[GDGF]

So we meet again, Mr. Koshiro

 

[WastingPenguins]

How was it superior?

They basically balanced the game a bit better in subtle ways. For instance, I THINK Sheik's f-air was nerfed a bit (it's ridiculously overpowered in the NTSC release). I know for sure that they nerfed Falco's d-air spike (it's only spikes at the beginning of the attack animation). There are a bunch of subtle changes like this, but since I've never played the PAL release, I don't know what they are. Overall, it seems to be the more balanced version.

 

[GaimeGuy]

How was it superior?

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=57155

Some notable changes they made are:

1. marth's d-air is now just a meteor smash, not a spike, so it can be recovered from
2. Falco's d-air isn't a spike anymore throughout the entire animation
3. Sheik can't chain-grab with down-throw

 

[RurouniZel]

I'm super stoked about the announcement of all these composers, but I think everyone's reading far too much into it.

I imagine that these composers were all hired to do one or two themes from previous Nintendo games/Smash Bros. games simply to give each stage and/or menu it's own flavor. Oh, and the fact that it's one hell of a PR blitz at the same time. ^^

 

[Firestorm]

How was it superior?

Copie + pasted from Nintendude's post at GameFAQs which is copied from MrSilver's post at SmashBoards:

This game currently has 4 different versions, 3 NTSC and PAL. Your game’s version number is on the backside of the disk. It’s difficult to read. On one of the inner rings, there is some text that says 0.xx You have either 0.00, 0.01, or 0.02. The newest version is PAL, and doesn’t have the numbers on the bottom. The differences between the NTSC and PAL versions are:

Marth falls over from Fox's shine in PAL.

Bowser, Kirby and Yoshi are heavier in PAL.

Marth, Fox and Mario are lighter in PAL.

Falco's dair now only spikes for the first half of the animation. The rest sends them slightly up.

Sheik's uair isn't as strong in PAL.

Marth's dair is Meteor smash, not spike in PAL.

Fox's down and forward smash are less powerful in PAL.

Yoshi's forward smash is more powerful in PAL.

Peach's dash attack is less powerful in PAL.

Luigi's nair is less powerful in PAL.

Ganon's dair was weakened, from 22% in NTSC to 21% in PAL.

Yoshi's dair was weakened, from 44% in NTSC to 36% in PAL.

Fox's fair has more range on it's hitbox in PAL.

DI on Sheik's dthrow has been changed so that it can no longer chain in PAL.

Fox can tech out of Falcos dthrow in PAL.

Bowser's dthrow now hits Mr. Gn'W in PAL.

Link's super jump glitch was removed in PAL.

Samus's extended grapple beam was removed in PAL.

The IC glitch was removed in PAL.

The Japanese language option was dropped in PAL in favor of Italian, French, Spanish and German. Jigglypuff also sings (Up+B) her name in the language Smash is set to.

Names can now include upper and lower case letters but no Japanese character set.

In the English language setting, distances are measured in meters.

Lag and loading times have been reduced in PAL.

The 'Special Movie' was removed in PAL.

^^^ That list is from SWF and MrSilver, meaning that I take no credit for it.

The differences between the three NTSC versions are mostly minor changes such as increasing the length of HRC track and removing some glitches.

Basically:
Uber characters less uber.
lol characters less lol.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Wait, I just noticed something...

They made yoshi's forward smash more powerful? Holy crap, it was already one of the most powerful smashes in the game (and useful, since yoshi pulled his head back, so he could dodge an attack while charging.)

 

[Keru_Shiri]

I can't imagine there being any significant differences between JPN, NA, and PAL versions of Brawl since it's supposed to be worldwide online. Or am I missing something?

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Yeah, but nobody went that high from his u-tilt even at like 200% in the last game iirc.

An exageration I hope. Link dies from a 200% Up-tilt, easily.

*Edit* I just checked in traing mode, the knockback looks to be the exact same.

 

[BGBW]

The 'Special Movie' was removed in PAL.l.

I've always wondered why this movie was removed.

 

[farnham]

Nintendo should have a balance patch system with ssbb

 

[GaimeGuy]

An exageration I hope. Link dies from a 200% Up-tilt, easily.

*Edit* I just checked in traing mode, the knockback looks to be the exact same.

I'm not surprised: the move balances and attributes were one of the last things to be changed in Melee. Most of the early SSBM trailers still have the same move physics as in SSB64

 

[Firestorm]

An exageration I hope. Link dies from a 200% Up-tilt, easily.

*Edit* I just checked in traing mode, the knockback looks to be the exact same.

I see. Guess my friend just never used it on me enough.

 

[MMaRsu]

so will there be new news every day?

 

[Lee N]

so will there be new news every day?

every weekday

(japan time)

 

[Slurpy]

every weekday

(japan time)

So how often is that in regular time. Anyone know how to convert from JAPAN weeks?

 

[Gekkonidae]

So how often is that in regular time. Anyone know how to convert from JAPAN weeks?

Japan time is metric. Duh.

 

[VultureDude]

Wii-mote confirmed?

No new characters yet. Sneaky assholes.

wasn't it always confirmed that you could use the Wii Remote or the GC controler?

 

[Burai]

Japan time is metric. Duh.

A common misconception. In fact Japan dropped the metric time system (JMT) after the war.

Japan now uses the JWTFT system which has 346 seconds to every minute, 2 minutes to every hour and 9,028 hours to every day.

At the moment it's 6,781:01 over there.

 

[Neomoto]

Well the site looks cool, the launch had less info than I thought though and I was keeping the expectations low already lol.

Very cool that stages undergo transformation based on time though.
And I too need to say something about that list of music componers... it is made of pure awesome and win.